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  • Could not connect?

    What happened to the forum? I thought it was going to be permanent and was saddened that I wouldn't be communicating with anyone again. Was feeling a real loss. Been talking to everyone almost daily for over a year.

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    This has happened before. Something along the lines of "site down" or other error message occurs. This time it was a "could not connect" message. I don't know if it was deliberate (hackers) or just a technical problem. Until USPOL admin lets us know, I'm as curious as you as to the cause.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by radcentr View Post
      This has happened before. Something along the lines of "site down" or other error message occurs. This time it was a "could not connect" message. I don't know if it was deliberate (hackers) or just a technical problem. Until USPOL admin lets us know, I'm as curious as you as to the cause.
      This was the first time I saw something like this. Just glad it's back up.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by msc View Post
        This was the first time I saw something like this. Just glad it's back up.
        Yeah, me too. I thought the site had just ended, closed down for good. The thing about this site, is that at least it isn't so huge as your posts get lost in the sheer volume. And there doesn't seem to be any nutty idiots here, although I am sure my nemesis, who I will not mention his name, thinks I am the lone nut. I do not think he is one though, just conditioned heavily, as to be trapped inside a box.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

          Yeah, me too. I thought the site had just ended, closed down for good. The thing about this site, is that at least it isn't so huge as your posts get lost in the sheer volume. And there doesn't seem to be any nutty idiots here, although I am sure my nemesis, who I will not mention his name, thinks I am the lone nut. I do not think he is one though, just conditioned heavily, as to be trapped inside a box.
          I agree with you. When I thought this one was over, I joined another site and experience everything you mentioned. Posted and 5 min. later I couldn't find my post. Seemed like a bunch of statements and no conversation. They had so many people that there were constantly new threads which were similar if not the same as the others and I couldn't decide which one to post on. And so many options that it was difficult to know which option would get you to where you wanted to be. Had I stayed on it longer I'm sure I would have worked it out, but I'd rather be here with you guys. Feels like home.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

            Yeah, me too. I thought the site had just ended, closed down for good.
            It was touch and go there for a while...tbh closing it may not be the worst thing in the end but i will try make sure something is set up for like 20 to 30 of our past members, to post plus those who want to come from here etc though with remarkably better set up for software that is not going to corrupt like this. Bear with me for a while, whilst i sort it all out. It was something that i was supposed to do several months back ironically, but just never found the time with one thing or another. I hope to have it done, soon. Message with Dan in the mean time and he will keep you posted. Even as staff, half were unaware of what was going on.

            The thing about this site, is that at least it isn't so huge as your posts get lost in the sheer volume.
            It used to be, but as it got smaller, the site did get better until it got so small that after a while due to the technical problems. We will keep somewhere to use as intimate as it was before. I'll make sure i take care of the rest of you as best i can if this place does close though hopefully it'll be done very smoothly / transition well.

            And there doesn't seem to be any nutty idiots here, although I am sure my nemesis, who I will not mention his name, thinks I am the lone nut. I do not think he is one though, just conditioned heavily, as to be trapped inside a box.
            Dan? He is the most supportive staff member we have had here for several years and remains so ; he does the most to encourage as much free speech as possible. I am the ban happy lunatic.

            FWIW btw, for those of you not sure on this, all of the failure to sort out the problems / new site etc do not fall with Dan - mostly me in fact so my apologies in advance and be good / kind to him. He is the only one who cares enough about this place to both moderate and post.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by msc View Post
              What happened to the forum? I thought it was going to be permanent and was saddened that I wouldn't be communicating with anyone again. Was feeling a real loss. Been talking to everyone almost daily for over a year.
              It will still be about for at least a short while and i will make sure of order / a smooth transition either way.

              Thank you for the kind words / the sentiment and it does not go un-noticed by whatever staff etc are left. FWIW, most of us still talk off the site and some of the old timers are still in communique with another so as and when we sort something out (soon hopefully) we will arrange things for members accordingly.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                This has happened before. Something along the lines of "site down" or other error message occurs. This time it was a "could not connect" message. I don't know if it was deliberate (hackers) or just a technical problem. Until USPOL admin lets us know, I'm as curious as you as to the cause.
                Technical, due to VBulletin, they are the ultimate case of a great company and system with support and product to an utter shambles as shown here. VB4 of the board (and 3) of the site ran wonderfully, since 5 the place has been a hell hole. The worst thing is, Marc pays to upgrade and maintain this place. Since he switched to the free cloud hosting service they provide, nothing has worked. It is not worth the offset, at all. Screw them. The site couldn't connect to their own server. The times you get a message of "site closed" etc, from the VB admin to users, it is due to the fact that we turn the site down for maint / upgrade / server purposes etc. This was not due to us. But also, this wasn't a hack nor was any security compromised, just VB screwing up. No financial information is held on the site, not most personal details any longer. If users are still worried, i am happy to delete profile information such as / like DOB, location etc, remove as required fields and or but not specified to any other profile based information if users see the need for re-assurance.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by msc View Post

                  I agree with you. When I thought this one was over, I joined another site and experience everything you mentioned. Posted and 5 min. later I couldn't find my post.
                  Some of that is software based for larger sites due to volume of posts ; dependent on brand / version, modifications are usually needed to help for more advanced queries etc. One thing we always did here was to make sure the place never grew too big. But again that is due to the disaster of what VB has done since the fight with IB / the split off to Xen etc.

                  Seemed like a bunch of statements and no conversation. They had so many people that there were constantly new threads which were similar if not the same as the others and I couldn't decide which one to post on. And so many options that it was difficult to know which option would get you to where you wanted to be. Had I stayed on it longer I'm sure I would have worked it out, but I'd rather be here with you guys. Feels like home.
                  Yeah this place is somewhere where people know one another, all get along etc (know each other in real life). Those problems you mentioned above can be teething problems for sites but as a whole, most take care of themselves in time to come but using different methodology / changing posting styles etc but when it comes to getting lost in threads etc a lot of that is due to various other issues that need resolving long term when it comes to how best optimize the variables and most software offers various software to do it ; but most novice users don't know how to best use the tools as it requires advanced technical know how.

                  Again, as and when i merge / move all this, whatever new settings / place it brings in, it'll be your home too.

                  Thanks to everyone for their patience, any more questions and i will answer them here as best i can / message me or Dan for whatever else you need. Will keep you posted.

                  xxxx

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the updates, Chloe. If I understand your issues with the server, I'll say, "No thank you" for their alleged updates. I'm sure others with better technical abilities may disagree with me, but if a political discussion forum can decently post charts, short video and multiple quotes, I'm good. IHO, the fancy stuff is actually counterproductive if it is much less stable.

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                    • #11
                      My absolute apologies here but it seems as if your and Rad's original concerns about the potential of a hack were completely spot on.

                      I can only apologize but re-assure you that this was completely and totally the fault of VB and their security operation (or lack there of as the case may be) and not on the part of USPO. The problem is, that VB provides the cloud hosting for USPO, so this site was doubly smacked up the ass due to VBulletin's blunder.

                      The only advice from Wayne & co thus far, is to alert owners / reset information etc.

                      http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forum...password-reset

                      Whilst we appreciate that the attack was nearly a week + old now, we do suspect that a bigger risk may be for users that use the same password across multiple sites that the information could lead to vulnerabilities for their own information compromised independent of what they use with any VB associated software.

                      On USPO no plain text storage of any information is kept, whether it is financial or personal....passwords are stored in a DB and that information is encrypted, not available to users nor staff / nor kept in any plain text format that can be comprehended. However if Hackers were to have attacked that they may have accessed the DB, they may have an encrypted list of details plus whatever personal information is available to them through the administrative logs unfortunately.

                      The attack did hit VB as a whole so it effected almost every VB site, their own .com & org domains that provide licenses and modifications and unfortunately they were left as paralyzed as we were due to the fact their service of hosting is what keeps us online.

                      They royally screwed up and even though we, nor any other site that uses their software did anything wrong, this is yet another in a long list and line of fuck ups on their part and the ramifications may hit owners and subsequently hit users. We can only offer our anger and equal amounts of outrage at this and as and when more suggestions and details on the breathe and scope of the hit, we will likely have more steps to take as a precaution.

                      Thank you for everyone's patronage and continued support.

                      Chloe.

                      xxx

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                        Yeah, me too. I thought the site had just ended, closed down for good. The thing about this site, is that at least it isn't so huge as your posts get lost in the sheer volume. And there doesn't seem to be any nutty idiots here, although I am sure my nemesis, who I will not mention his name, thinks I am the lone nut. I do not think he is one though, just conditioned heavily, as to be trapped inside a box.
                        There used to be plenty of crazies in the early days.

                        I do wonder what will come of the place at times. I like that it's pretty small. At the same time, I think it would be Ok to have a few more.

                        Maybe not. How would they be screened LOL

                        God, these days you have to. There really are people that make a hobby of joining forums just to stir shit up and "troll."

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                        • #13
                          Test post ...Is this place still operating?

                          Got an error message, but then the post took anyway .. Let's see what happens next ...

                          Edit works, no server error message that time.

                          Well, anyway, hello; saw a post on another board from a 'new member' there that implied this site was active again and hence checking it out for grins.
                          Last edited by picaro; 11-30-2015, 09:57 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by picaro View Post
                            Test post ...Is this place still operating?

                            Got an error message, but then the post took anyway .. Let's see what happens next ...

                            Edit works, no server error message that time.

                            Well, anyway, hello; saw a post on another board from a 'new member' there that implied this site was active again and hence checking it out for grins.
                            Yes, we're still working. A bit different, but still working.

                            As you noticed, new posts send up a pop-up box saying somethings not working [invalid server response] and you just click "OK" to close the box - go back a page (or to the main forum) - return and your new post shows. Not sure how to fix or stop it. Biggest problem it causes is people sometimes double post.

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                            • #15
                              Ah , okay; thanks for the response.

                              I thought the original owner was going to sell it or something, and saw somebody mention the site on another forum and was checking it out and lurking.

                              Sent a Reply to Cloe, but don't know if it went through, though.

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