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  • #31
    Re: New Poster from WA

    Originally posted by Good1 View Post
    What "trapped?"

    The Republicans want to limit and/or restructure spending, the democraps don't. If those graphics that are floating around the internet are accurate, those red states can't do anything about it because of the democrat stonewalling.
    Ok, so stonewalling is a better word than trapped here. Fair enough, so it is Democrats have stonewalled Republicans into spending in their own States to the point that they end up negative Net Contribution per Capita and also stay Red. While at the same time Democrats have figured out a way to keep most of their solid Blue States as positive Net Contribution per Capita at the same time. Is this what you are saying?

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    • #32
      Re: New Poster from WA

      Doesn't population density have something to do with the amount of tax revenue?

      The more dense the population, the greater the tax revenue, and the more leveraged the infrastructure, so the lower cost per person, the more left tax revenue left over to spend elsewhere.

      With a lower population density, like Montana, there are still infrastrcuture required, roads and power for example, but they have to span greater distances, and the costs are distributed over fewer people, hence a greater per person cost.

      Just wondering if that may flavor this particular statistic or not.

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      • #33
        Re: New Poster from WA

        Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
        Ok, so stonewalling is a better word than trapped here. Fair enough, so it is Democrats have stonewalled Republicans into spending in their own States to the point that they end up negative Net Contribution per Capita and also stay Red. While at the same time Democrats have figured out a way to keep most of their solid Blue States as positive Net Contribution per Capita at the same time. Is this what you are saying?
        Get thee to an Economics course... or quit being obtuse (I can't tell which):

        No one has been "forced to spend."

        I'll explain it R-E-A-L slow this time: Please try to keep up. Republicans want to cut expenses (well, at least the true conservatives among them do). The democraps do't want to cut expenses. SO, the states get the money despite republicans wanting to control the funds better because the democraps won't let them cut.

        This isn't rocket science.

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        • #34
          Re: New Poster from WA

          The Red State / Blue State taxes/spending ratio was close to 1.0 for nearly every state as recent as 1994.
          In 1995 the GOP captured the House, and they went wild with the pork.
          The House 1994 highway bill had 435 earmarks, one per member.
          The Senate 1994 Highway bill had no earmarks.
          The Joint Conference committee produced a highway bill that had 535 earmarks. Adding one per Senator.
          That's the way the Democrats rolled.
          Contrast that to the 2005 Highway bill, produced by a Republican Congress, with over 14,000 earmarks.
          Spending was shifted away from Blue States, and to the Red States in a conscience effort, to reward GOP contributors.
          The result of this is that if you cut pork from the Federal Budget now, it will disproportionately be from Red States.
          If you cut military spending, it will disproportionately come from Red States.
          Which is why that when Republicans talk about cutting spending, they never propose much other than Medicaid or Medicare, because the spending that should be cut is the pork barrel spending that they put in place.
          They aren't in front of the WhoreHouse to protest it's presence, as they'd like you to believe, they are in front of the Whorehouse, because they just finished up their business and walked out the door.

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          • #35
            Re: New Poster from WA

            Originally posted by goober View Post
            The Red State / Blue State taxes/spending ratio was close to 1.0 for nearly every state as recent as 1994.
            In 1995 the GOP captured the House, and they went wild with the pork.
            The House 1994 highway bill had 435 earmarks, one per member.
            The Senate 1994 Highway bill had no earmarks.
            The Joint Conference committee produced a highway bill that had 535 earmarks. Adding one per Senator.
            That's the way the Democrats rolled.
            Contrast that to the 2005 Highway bill, produced by a Republican Congress, with over 14,000 earmarks.
            Spending was shifted away from Blue States, and to the Red States in a conscience effort, to reward GOP contributors.
            The result of this is that if you cut pork from the Federal Budget now, it will disproportionately be from Red States.
            If you cut military spending, it will disproportionately come from Red States.
            Which is why that when Republicans talk about cutting spending, they never propose much other than Medicaid or Medicare, because the spending that should be cut is the pork barrel spending that they put in place.
            They aren't in front of the WhoreHouse to protest it's presence, as they'd like you to believe, they are in front of the Whorehouse, because they just finished up their business and walked out the door.
            While adding earmarks is a bona fide process by which congress spends money, it has also been the true conservatives who have fought against it. These off-budget expenditures are nonetheless a very real part of our expenditures and while they are available any congressman who doesn't try to get their share for their constituents, even IF they want to get rid of them, is not doing a very good job.

            So claim "social security," "earmarks," or "subsidies." It has STILL been the true conservatives in the GOP who have tried to fix them and it has STILL been the democraps who have stood in the way of fixing them... regardless of which state gets how much.

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            • #36
              Re: New Poster from WA

              Originally posted by Good1 View Post
              While adding earmarks is a bona fide process by which congress spends money, it has also been the true conservatives who have fought against it. These off-budget expenditures are nonetheless a very real part of our expenditures and while they are available any congressman who doesn't try to get their share for their constituents, even IF they want to get rid of them, is not doing a very good job.

              So claim "social security," "earmarks," or "subsidies." It has STILL been the true conservatives in the GOP who have tried to fix them and it has STILL been the democraps who have stood in the way of fixing them... regardless of which state gets how much.
              I'm not sure people understand what earmarks really are. Congress sets a budget for a specific agency. Individual Congressmen then set aside a particular portion of that money for a pet project. They are often depicted as additional money for a specific project but that is not the case. It is just Congress micromanaging a budget of an agency.

              I worked on a DOD project one time. The DOD submitted a wish list to Congress. Congress manipulated that list and gave them a specific amount of money but a portion of that money could only be spent on the RADAR system that I was contracted to design. Thus, it was earmarked for that project.

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