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Is the U.S. Headed for Martial Law?

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  • Is the U.S. Headed for Martial Law?

    I've broached this topic before. If Martial Law is declared in the U.S., the Constitution no longer applies for the duration of the "emergency." I have long been of the perspective that Barack Obama doesn't want to leave office in 2017 and, if Martial Law is declared, elections will not be held in 2016: He would remain president until the emergency subsides.

    I recently came across this article (it's from the blog D.C. Clothesline, which I consistently find using a lot of hyperbole and worst-case scenarios, so take it, as I do, with a grain of salt): I find some of the benchmarks they point out to be supportive of the possibility that we are headed for Martial Law in the U.S. (and prior to the 2016 elections):
    The Set-up

    And perhaps most troubling of all, dissidents and subversives would likely be rounded up and imprisoned.
    Perhaps you dont think that this could ever happen in the United States in 2015.
    Well, we do know that this is precisely what the FBI had a plan to do in the 1950s...
    ...And we do know that the federal government had a list of at least 8 million names of people that were considered to be threats to national security back in the 1980s. This list was known as Main Core, and it is not known whether this list still exists today.
    I have a feeling that it does, and that it is probably much larger than it was back then.
    We also know that government documents produced during the Obama administration openly discuss rounding up dissidents and taking them to internment camps. Just consider the following example from Infowars
    During his time in the White House, Barack Obama has signed a series of executive orders that give him and his minions an extraordinary amount of power in the event of a major national emergency.
    For example, read the following excerpt from an executive order that Obama signed in March 2012
    Sec. 201. Priorities and Allocations Authorities. (a) The authority of the President conferred by section 101 of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2071, to require acceptance and priority performance of contracts or orders (other than contracts of employment) to promote the national defense over performance of any other contracts or orders, and to allocate materials, services, and facilities as deemed necessary or appropriate to promote the national defense, is delegated to the following agency heads:
    (1) the Secretary of Agriculture with respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinary resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer;
    (2) the Secretary of Energy with respect to all forms of energy;
    (3) the Secretary of Health and Human Services with respect to health resources;
    (4) the Secretary of Transportation with respect to all forms of civil transportation;
    (5) the Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources; and
    (6) the Secretary of Commerce with respect to all other materials, services, and facilities, including construction materials.


    Like I said, could just be an overactive imagination reading stuff into what I see happening around us; or maybe it's ....



  • #2
    Here is the deal though. With all of the great changes that I have seen just in my own lifetime, with much of it being utter insanity when viewed from the typical American mindset of the 50s and 60s, such a thing as you can imagine is no longer impossible. For the foundation for it is already laid down, it is in place. And for some reason, there are lots of people who think Obama is fully capable of doing just that, in order to remain in power. I don't think anyone has enjoyed being in power, as much as this man has. That is just my impression. And while I do not have ODS, there is just something not quite kosher about this man, something that make the hair on my neck stand up. And yes, it could also simply be my vivid imagination, I will admit that honestly.

    What I know is not my imagination though, when it comes to Obama is the fact that he indeed wants to change America, into what he thinks it should be, and he doesn't have a consensus from the American people either. Now, I know that America is now an oligarchy, but even under an oligarchy a president is still given areas in which he can operate, in which he can change things, as long as it doesn't interfere with the demands of the oligarchs. Now, oligarchs are only concerned with getting richer, so that leaves quite a scope that they really have no interest in, and really do not care. So this is where Obama would change America, in those areas.

    In order to pull off martial law, we would have to have a false flag operation. And it would have to probably be a big one. So what would it take?

    And why, what are the national security threats that would warrant us to spend the money to do this...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/c...s-no-big-deal/
    Operation Jade Helm 15.

    Why would we spend the time and the money on exercises that at first glance seem to indicate an operation to repel a foreign invasion? Who would invade us? And this isn't the national guard, who have the job of defending the US, but includes all 4 branches of our military. No doubt there will be military checkpoints, and we will get a taste of what martial llaw looks like.

    Now personally, for me, I don't like this, and it gives me the creeps. Something isn't quite right about it, and IMO, people have a right to be upset. We are not under a threat from a foreign nation, that would warrant this operation, so why is it being done? With this gov't operating mostly in total secrecy, the people have a very good reason to worry, and I do think this and many other things is just unprecedented. And that perhaps should worry us. Asking me to trust my gov't lost its appeal quite awhile ago. I realize just by me saying this, I am probably on some list, as a potential subversive, but I don't care. Too old to care. I should have been dead already anyways.

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    • #3
      I cannot honestly say I disagree with your perceptions.

      When we were growing up, the thought of Martial Law being imposed on the United States seemed a foreign thought: Even after the first Red Dawn movie came out, it was thought as more of a fictional "what if" concept (a foreign power invading the United States).

      Now, the possibility keeps resurfacing around me.

      I also agree there is something about Obama (and his almost sycophantic adherents).

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      • #4
        I don't think Obama was all that excited about being elected this time, much less staying in office past his expiration date. Never know what the powers behind him might think tho.

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        • #5
          If Marshall Law was put in place, then every American needs to realize there is something seriously wrong here. If we were under attack, it means because of PC nonsense, we are putting a burden on our citizenry. In a blink of an eye, we can destroy any, and every country on this planet. In essence, should we choose to do so, we can bring the world to its knees.

          So then explain to me, how we could invoke Marshall law? If we had to, we are not doing enough as a government to protect the citizens. We did not spend trillions, and go into debt to let someone from a far away land instill upon us their will. If we accept this, we are the biggest fools to ever walk this planet. We can light anyone up, at any time, like a X-Mas tree.

          I know it. You know it. The question is---------->will the libs do it if need be?

          If you believe they won't, then you have a much larger problem than you ever should have; especially if the rest of the world believes the libs in charge won't do it too! What that does my friends, is make our enemies, brazen. That is a recipe for disaster. If they know we are willing to light them up, they will leave us alone. If they conversely believe we can be had, they will do what they are doing today.

          Do you think that Iran sent our hostages back because they were being nice while screwing with Jimmy Carter? Or rather, do you realize that they were scared to death that Ronald Reagan would light them up?

          Call it cowboy diplomacy, or whatever you want, but if the world knows not to fu** with us because the person in the oval office isn't taking any shit, the world is a different place.
          Last edited by Imawhosure; 04-02-2015, 03:13 PM.

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          • #6
            No. We aren't heading towards martial law, that would require an overt exercise of will that no one in government has. Those in power are content to build an oppressive police state and a monstrous beuracratic leviathan that seperates those who profit from the rest of us.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
              No. We aren't heading towards martial law, that would require an overt exercise of will that no one in government has. Those in power are content to build an oppressive police state and a monstrous beuracratic leviathan that seperates those who profit from the rest of us.

              I don't believe we are headed towards marshal law but I also don't think the wealthy are evil. Johnny Morris, founder of Bass Pro started selling fishing lures in the back of his father's liquor store. He made the Forbes 400 this year with a net worth of 4.2 Billion. I can't tell you how much good that man has done for this state and probably many others. Bass Pro Shops in Springfield is the number one tourist attraction in the state. He employs thousands of people in many states including retail workers, warehouse workers, and manufacturers. He just built a world class golf course here in Branson which employs many people. I have talked to the employees in his stores and many of them have worked for him for 20 years. Influencing government to keep them from putting you out of business is a requirement for any business today.

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              • #8
                The problem people have with business OMD is they often have vast funds available to ride roughshod over environmental and other regulations with the use of lobby groups. Yes you can point to companies who are good and pay well but there are many many examples of companies that use dirty tricks and underhanded measures to get what they want while also using tricks to pay little or no tax at all and the republicans defend them and call anyone who questions them socialists.

                The left doesn't think the rich are evil but they do think they should pay a fair tax rate and not be able to claim they pay less tax than the cleaner who cleans their office.
                I don't envy the rich and I'm happy with what I have I just have different ideas about tax than you.

                As for marshal law the idea is preposterous as the paperwork required would be a nightmare the press would have a field day (you may stop them in the US but they'd just hop over to mexico or London and report online) and the sheer number of physical protesters in the streets would make the whole idea untenable. It's a pure conspiracy theory that just doesn't hold up to any real scrutiny or thought.

                I have a feeling a vast number of police and the armed forces would rather down tools (I'm not saying they will rebel or take up arms against colleagues) than enforce martial law.
                Last edited by PeterUK75; 04-02-2015, 04:55 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                  The problem people have with business OMD is they often have vast funds available to ride roughshod over environmental and other regulations with the use of lobby groups. Yes you can point to companies who are good and pay well but there are many many examples of companies that use dirty tricks and underhanded measures to get what they want while also using tricks to pay little or no tax at all and the republicans defend them and call anyone who questions them socialists.

                  The left doesn't think the rich are evil but they do think they should pay a fair tax rate and not be able to claim they pay less tax than the cleaner who cleans their office.
                  I don't envy the rich and I'm happy with what I have I just have different ideas about tax than you.

                  As for marshal law the idea is preposterous as the paperwork required would be a nightmare the press would have a field day (you may stop them in the US but they'd just hop over to mexico or London and report online) and the sheer number of physical protesters in the streets would make the whole idea untenable. It's a pure conspiracy theory that just doesn't hold up to any real scrutiny or thought.

                  I have a feeling a vast number of police and the armed forces would rather down tools (I'm not saying they will rebel or take up arms against colleagues) than enforce martial law.

                  In this country, the rich pay most of the income taxes. It is my opinion that the rich can find much better ways to spend their money than sending it to the government to buy votes with or pass laws that put them out of business. Right now, the EPA is proposing power plant regulations that will triple electricity costs. Many poor people will not be able to even have electricity at this rate. They don't care because they have an agenda and want to complete it while Obama is still in office.

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                  • #10
                    Please state how the government is putting people out of business when there are record number of hyper rich, the stock market is at record levels and as for doing it before Obama leaves well they have zero chance of that with your system which is so clogged up you can barely get anything passed.
                    The taxes they pay is a lot because they get paid vast fortunes and republicans like trickle down economics where the idea is to throw even more at them in the hope they might spend it on the rest of us which I simply don't think happens.

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                    • #11
                      The laws favor the rich. The legal system favors the rich. Banking favors the rich. The courts favor the rich. I don't think they are evil, only the frauds that pretend there is a different reality and I do pitty the fools that buy the lies.

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                      • #12
                        This is also killing me: It's Martial Law not Marshall Law.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                          Please state how the government is putting people out of business when there are record number of hyper rich, the stock market is at record levels and as for doing it before Obama leaves well they have zero chance of that with your system which is so clogged up you can barely get anything passed.
                          The taxes they pay is a lot because they get paid vast fortunes and republicans like trickle down economics where the idea is to throw even more at them in the hope they might spend it on the rest of us which I simply don't think happens.
                          I gave you a prime example of what one rich person is doing with his money in this area and across the country. You have extolled the virtues of Bill Gates. Just what do you think rich people do with their money, bury it in their back yards? They have to invest it to keep it from inflating away. Just because someone makes a lot of money, doesn't mean the government should take it and spend it on my health care.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                            The laws favor the rich. The legal system favors the rich. Banking favors the rich. The courts favor the rich. I don't think they are evil, only the frauds that pretend there is a different reality and I do pitty the fools that buy the lies.

                            This guy gets it.
                            I wish I could have been that succinct.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                              No. We aren't heading towards martial law, that would require an overt exercise of will that no one in government has. Those in power are content to build an oppressive police state and a monstrous beuracratic leviathan that seperates those who profit from the rest of us.
                              I agree it would take an overt exercise of will... But I am seeing Obama using his executive authority to secure it for himself...

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