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  • "Do something !" they chanted

    Oh Boy !!

    Captain Bangaroo and the nit-wit crew are going to do som .. some.. thing

    .. they're gonna do something about guns.. and controlling them.. or something

    This is getting scary !

    The most incompetent screwballs the world has ever seen, are going to try to make a change to laws about gun ownership and rights of possession around some nebulous idea about "red flags" people might emanate or give off... something you said when you had a bad day maybe, or... it could be anything

    But the government will now get to decide if you have a right to gun ownership based on ... what ? ?

    Well, whatever these dumb-sh^t 'republicans' say ! . . . they're gonna "write a bill" they're "gonna do something"

    God help us !

    We've seen how well they do . . . . ANYTHING ? Or should I say NOTHING ?

    They can't even put a stop to people marching en masse into our country illegally !! They've had about 50 years for that, now this ??

    Hmmmm... I don't know ? What do these clowns actually DO ???? Besides take our money and make our lives more difficult ?

    The only reason any republicans get elected is because democrats are openly the party of hate & evil now

    But "They're gonna do something" - Oh sh*^ I say !



    'Red Flag' Gun Control Bills Pick Up Momentum With G.O.P. in Congress

    Congressional Republicans, under intense pressure to respond to this weekends massacres, are coalescing around legislation to help law enforcement take guns from those who pose an imminent danger - a measure that, if signed into law, would be the most significant gun control legislation enacted in 20 years.

    Such 'red flag' laws might not be as momentous - or controversial - as the now-expired assault weapons ban or the instant background check system, both of which were enacted in 1994 as part of President Bill Clinton's sprawling crime bill. The House, under Democratic control, passed far more ambitious bills in February that would require background checks for all gun purchasers, including those on the internet or at gun shows, and extend waiting limits for would-be gun buyers flagged by the instant check system.

    Now, after back-to-back shootings this weekend left 31 people dead in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, Republicans who have long resisted gun restrictions appear rattled. In Ohio, Gov. Mike DeWine was shouted down on Sunday by mourners in Dayton demanding that he "do something." On Tuesday, ..

    [ a crowd of people chanting at government officials to "do something" ? - how misguided people are ! I understand they're upset at people getting killed, but demanding our government to "do something" ????? Bad idea, always a bad idea. The less these dumb bastards do, the better off we'll all be !]

    ..he urged his fellow Republicans in the state legislature to pass measures establishing red flag powers and expanding background checks.

    "They were absolutely right," Mr. DeWine said Tuesday morning at a news conference. "We must do something, and that is exactly what we are going to do."

    Michael R. Turner, a Republican whose district includes Dayton, went further.

    "I will support legislation that prevents the sale of military-style weapons to civilians, a magazine limit and red flag legislation," he said in a statement Tuesday. "The carnage these military-style weapons are able to produce when available to the wrong people is intolerable."

    But in the Senate, where a background checks bill failed in 2013 after 26 children and staff members were gunned down at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., red flag laws may be the only gun-related measure that could squeeze through. President Trump endorsed the idea on Monday in a speech from the White House, giving skittish Republicans cover to embrace it.


  • #2

    A very thorny problem brewing - not just for "republicans" - but for all

    I think it's extremely misguided to believe that "the government" can/will solve this

    The issue is only going to further inflame America against itself


    GOP Senator Lindsey Graham said Monday he cut a deal with Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal on red flag legislation to assist and encourage states to keep guns away from people who are found to pose an imminent risk of violence.

    [ How is that to be determined ? By who ? ]

    Every time the country experiences a tragedy of this nature the Republican brand takes a hit, said Carlos Curbelo, a Republican former congressman who lost his suburban Miami-area district to a Democrat in 2018. Because many, many Americans perceive that Republicans are unwilling to act on gun reform, due to the influence of the NRA and other organizations.

    Certainly in swing suburban districts there is broad support for policies like universal background checks and 72-hour waiting periods, Curbelo said. A lot of voters, especially young voters, have lost their patience with this issue.

    [ It isn't possible to legislate away evil and evil people with bad intentions ]

    The partys longstanding opposition to gun control is a product of party leaders working to consolidate single-issue firearm owners voters who reliably turn out in elections and tend to view any new restrictions as a threat to their Second Amendment rights.

    It explains why most Republicans oppose even modest measures like universal background checks, which received 89 per cent national support in the Marist poll, including large majorities across all demographic and party affiliations. The NRA opposes that proposal, too.

    The NRA is committed to the safe and lawful use of firearms by those exercising their Second Amendment freedoms, the NRA said in a statement Sunday, adding that it will not participate in the politicizing of these tragedies but will work to pursue practical solutions.



    • #3

      Thank God !


      McConnell, GOP Senate Unlikely to Act Swiftly on Guns

      Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is resisting pressure to bring senators back from recess to address gun violence.

      Instead, the Republican leader is taking a more measured approach to consider the options.

      But that could very likely result in no legislation being passed, despite calls to "do something" in the aftermath of the nation's back-to-back mass shootings.

      President Donald Trump is privately calling senators and publicly pushing for an expansion of background checks on firearms purchases.

      But he is offering no details, and those ideas have little Republican support. In fact, the White House threatened to veto a House-passed background checks bill earlier this year.



      • #4
        As I said in the opening post of this thread about these so called "red flag warnings";

        "The most incompetent screwballs the world has ever seen, are going to try to make a change to laws about gun ownership and rights of possession, around some nebulous idea about "red flags" people might emanate or give off... something you said when you had a bad day maybe, or... it could be anything

        But the government will now get to decide if you have a right to gun ownership based on ... what ? ?

        Nothing solid really, that's not a requirement ! It can't be when "people might die" if we don't "act."

        "Red flag" law idea is extremely dangerous

        It can go nowhere

        IF we're to remain a free people in a free country

        Why ?

        I know were such a "law" in place when I was growing up, I would NEVER be allowed to keep firearms

        I may not even be a free man !


        Red Flag Laws Set Dangerous Precedent

        Harvard Law Professor Emeritus Alan Dershowitz argues red flag laws, though well-intentioned, will infringe on a citizen's constitutional rights and set a dangerous precedent, as the U.S. government is not very good at predicting who will commit violent acts.

        [ Gosh really ??? How difficult was it to conclude THAT ?? The U.S. government isn't even very good at enforcing our own LAWS !! ]

        "They think it's worth it for 100 or 1,000 nonviolent people to lose their guns to prevent a mass shooting. But those who regard gun possession as a fundamental right under the Second Amendment . . . frame the issue differently. They ask: Can the government deprive a citizen of a constitutional right based on a prediction?"

        [ They cannot ]

        Some states have tried enacting measures called red flag laws, and red flag gun control bills picked up momentum with Republicans in Congress this week following weekend mass shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, that left 31 people dead and dozens more injured.

        A bipartisan proposal by Sens. Lindsaey Graham, R-S.C., and Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., would create a federal grant program to encourage states to adopt "red flag" laws to take guns away from people believed to be dangerous to themselves or others.

        But Dershowitz suggests temporary gun confiscation "pending a timely due-process review" because, "when government starts taking away some rights in he interest of safety, all rights are at risk."

        [ Your neighbor doesn't like you, they tell 'officials' you 'may be a danger.' SWAT team confiscates your guns on a surpise visit. This makes local news, you lose your job. Your ex-wife/husband doesn't like you, they tell 'officials' you 'may be a danger.' SWAT team confiscates your guns on a surpise visit. This makes local news, you lose your job. Your relative doesn't like you, they tell 'officials' you 'may be a danger.' SWAT team confiscates your guns on a surpise visit. This makes local news, you lose your job. SOMEONE doesn't like you, they tell 'officials' you 'may be a danger.' SWAT team confiscates your guns on a surpise visit. This makes local news, you lose your job. The scenarios this opens up to abuse are endless. ]


        • #5
          'Red Flag' Gun Control Bills - You expect people who have witnessed the censorship of conservatives on social media, witnessed the constant barrage of false accusations in the most vile terms to actually trust the same people to control who has their 2nd amendment rights confiscated?

          Sorry, but if the left believes this they are worthy of such trust they are going to have to demonstrate it for a long time before they earn it back.


          • #6
            Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
            'Red Flag' Gun Control Bills - You expect people who have witnessed the censorship of conservatives on social media, witnessed the constant barrage of false accusations in the most vile terms to actually trust the same people to control who has their 2nd amendment rights confiscated?

            Sorry, but if the left believes this they are worthy of such trust they are going to have to demonstrate it for a long time before they earn it back.
            Maybe a thousand or more years - if you asked me