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Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

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  • #16
    Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

    Originally posted by Danny View Post
    Do you want dead kids in a classroom or do you want a slight inconvenience when buying an assault weapon.? Seems straightforward.
    That is a kind of stupid question. It does not have to be an either or situation. Banning look like assault weapons is not the answer and neither is banning high capacity magazines. For the life of me I can't figure out why people want either, but it isn't my place to tell them they are wrong. And it darn sure isn't your place to try to make out that if we don't ban certain guns and accessories more kids will die. Even if we go out and take ever gun from every law abiding citizen, we still wouldn't protect all our kids in school. In fact between that and making school zones gun free areas we are making the situation worse. That is simply not the solution and all of this rhetoric is not helping solve the problem.

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    • #17
      Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

      Originally posted by Danny View Post
      Do you want dead kids in a classroom or do you want a slight inconvenience when buying an assault weapon.? Seems straightforward.
      It too bad you didn't bother reading my post, which you clearly didn't. Your post makes absolutely no sense as a reply to this thread.

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      • #18
        Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
        I dunno. I was listening to CTR today as I drove in to town and heard that a poll just taken said 58 per cent of americans want stricter controls. Up 14 pts from last year. Probably has something to do with all those kids getting murdered.

        I grew up in a gun culture here in the south. Thing is back then no one wanted these weapons that look like military assault weapons. Then we started seeing them in film with our fav ass kicker using them and american men went crazy over em. High profile, high attention weapons. I wouldn't own one and so you guys that do are ruining it for us old geysers who now worry about our 22 rifles and bb guns being confiscated.

        When did this attraction to these military looking weapons start? Hell, before I stopped hunting a couple decades ago I didn't know anyone that owned one. All I can say our penchance for those sorts of weapons and their popularity and mass murderers using them is really screwing things up. Too damned flashy, attention getters, which is much of their appeal. Kinda reminds me of free speech, and then some jerk had to go and yell fire in a theater....and there goes free speech.

        All I can say to these lovers of assault looking ass kicking macho weapons is..,.,,.grow up dammit! Get yourself a rifle like your grandpap had, hell it served him well and would kill something just as dead without the attention or glamor.
        Ah, BlueDoggy, you are truly the kind of firearm owner that Feinstein and the like love.

        You're more than happy to sell out the rights of other gun owners today, completely ignorant of the fact that the "pretty" guns you own are next on the target list. IIRC, you own a 1911? Guess what? That's a deadly semi-automatic killing machine capable of accepting a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds! How long do you think it will be before your gun ends up on the ban list?

        Do you really not know that Feinstein's stated goal is to have every gun owner - even you guys in the Elmer Fudd set with your pretty polished walnut stocks - "turn them all in"?

        Wake up, man. I know you don't give a shit about my rights, but can you really be so blind as to not see that your rights will be the next ones targeted?

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        • #19
          Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

          Originally posted by Danny View Post
          Do you want dead kids in a classroom or do you want a slight inconvenience when buying an assault weapon.? Seems straightforward.
          BTW,Danny, it is extremely insulting to claim that anyone "wants" dead kids in a classroom. You got 7 kinds of hysterical when people said you were exploiting dead kids for political purposes, and even took the admirable step of admitting you should not have done so.

          But you're apparently fine claiming other people "want" dead kids? WTF?

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          • #20
            Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

            Originally posted by Danny View Post
            Do you want dead kids in a classroom or do you want a slight inconvenience when buying an assault weapon.? Seems straightforward.
            Connecticut already had an "assault weapons" ban AND the school was a gun free zone. But lookey what happened anyway.

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            • #21
              Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

              Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
              And here we go. Senator Diane "turn them all in" Feinstein is introducing a bill which will ban hundreds and hundreds of firearms, and for those who currently own these scary, evil guns we will have to undergo a background check with photos and fingerprints. You can be sure that will come with a hefty fee.

              Now, for those who are ignorant of the current process, the background checks we have already done as gun owners don't require prints nor photos.

              Of course, this is going to cost millions and millions of dollars, which will come from someone...

              Here's her page about the bill: Assault Weapons - Issues - United States Senator Dianne Feinstein

              Oh, and also in this bill is a MASSIVE expansion of the National Firearms Act, which presently does not require registration of semi-automatic firearms. Is this a first step to confiscation? You can bet your ass that's what Feinstein wants, since she's on record saying she'd like legislation to require gun owners to "turn them all in". Although you can bet your last penny that her family will still have armed guards.....
              All of this is very obvious. Their goal at this point is complete gun confiscation. It will start with the assault weapons ban, but because of the fingerprinting and registration of all gun owners, eventually they will come for all firearms, just as it happens in every country every time, throughout history. Every time complete gun confiscation occurs, it is preceded by registration of gun owners. I had a feeling this would happen in a second Obama term (though it could just as easily have happened in a Romney term as well). I find it curious that the Dept. of Homeland Security, Social Security Admin., etc. have been buying up firearms and billions of rounds of ammo, yet they want to ban them for the average American. Of course I know all of this is just "tin foil", so disregard the dots, I just find it an incredible coincidence.

              Also, I think we should make the President safer and make the Secret Service a gun-free service. Make the White House a gun free zone. He'll be much safer that way.

              Oh and don't forget:

              "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal."
              -Janet Reno

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              • #22
                Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
                ahoy MattLarson,

                ye would know more on this than me, i thinks, but tell me matey; does Mrs. Feinstein have the votes fer this, or be this just another symbolic proposal thats nothin' more than puppet theatre?

                - MeadHallPirate
                I doubt it'll go anywhere; she'll never get the votes for it.

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                • #23
                  Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                  Yea, buy back programs are fruitless!

                  2 Rocket Launchers Turned In During LAPD Gun Buyback

                  Yesterday's LAPD gun buyback was so successful that two-hour waits and gift-card shortages were reported.

                  The department says it picked up 75 assault weapons as part of its no-questions-asked effort that saw $100 dollar cards handed out for handguns and long guns and $200 for the kind of rifle used in the Newtown tragedy. The LAPD says 901 handguns, 698 rifles, 363 shotguns will also be destroyed.

                  Good stats. But this is the one that got us saying WTF:

                  Cops picked up two -- count 'em two -- rocket launchers (!) (and not one, as other outlets are reporting), an LAPD official with close knowledge of the program told us. Holy hell why do people on our streets have military grade rocket launcher???

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                  Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                  Benjamin Franklin

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                  • #24
                    Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                    The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting.
                    Yet until the last few years america did not think it essential that we all armed ourselves with guns that looked like boys playing war. The last thing my dad wanted after ww2 was a damned M1 carbine, or a BAR(which he carried, that heavy sumbitch)

                    Boys playing special ops, ruining it for us serious gun owners. I stand by that.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                      Originally posted by Bfgrn View Post
                      Yea, buy back programs are fruitless!

                      2 Rocket Launchers Turned In During LAPD Gun Buyback

                      Yesterday's LAPD gun buyback was so successful that two-hour waits and gift-card shortages were reported.

                      The department says it picked up 75 assault weapons as part of its no-questions-asked effort that saw $100 dollar cards handed out for handguns and long guns and $200 for the kind of rifle used in the Newtown tragedy. The LAPD says 901 handguns, 698 rifles, 363 shotguns will also be destroyed.

                      Good stats. But this is the one that got us saying WTF:

                      Cops picked up two -- count 'em two -- rocket launchers (!) (and not one, as other outlets are reporting), an LAPD official with close knowledge of the program told us. Holy hell why do people on our streets have military grade rocket launcher???

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                      Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
                      Benjamin Franklin
                      LOL

                      What the sheep won't believe these days.

                      That is an empty plastic DISPOSABLE tube from an anti-tank weapon. You can buy one at any surplus store, and there is absolutely NO way to make it dangerous to anyone, unless it is used as a club. But gullible folks will see that and bleat about "people on our streets with military grade rocket launchers!" OMG!!!!!!!!111111ONEONEONE

                      You'd have known it was empty and harmless if you'd only read the article you linked.....

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                      • #26
                        Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                        She is a Racist, this will unduly affect minorities and poor and therefore is a racist law.

                        Not surprised the Democrats turn to racist actions to get their way.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                          Yet until the last few years america did not think it essential that we all armed ourselves with guns that looked like boys playing war. The last thing my dad wanted after ww2 was a damned M1 carbine, or a BAR(which he carried, that heavy sumbitch)

                          Boys playing special ops, ruining it for us serious gun owners. I stand by that.
                          You "serious" gun owners are in for a surprise when you find out that your "serious" rifle is a "deadly sniper weapon" in the next ban bill. Of course, it will be too late to get your head out by then....

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                          • #28
                            Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                            Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
                            You "serious" gun owners are in for a surprise when you find out that your "serious" rifle is a "deadly sniper weapon" in the next ban bill. Of course, it will be too late to get your head out by then....
                            Then he'll just express opposition to that next ban bill if/when it ever comes up. And there will be nothing wrong or inconsistent about that. I think you're in danger of falling into a 'slippery slope' logical fallacy here. There's no reason this has to be an "all-or-nothing" issue. Supporting a ban on one set of firearms doesn't mean one has to support a ban on ALL fire arms. And, more to the point, supporting registration or expanded background-check requirements doesn't mean one necessarily has to support bans or confiscation in the future.

                            Each proposal deserves to be evaluated on its own merits, not on the basis of some different, hypothetical, future proposal.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                              If you live and die by your emotions instead of logic, there is no more to it than that. If you feel and don't think, there is no more to it than that.
                              Which is why conservatives are unable to discuss common sense gun laws...they are driven by man's strongest emotion...FEAR.

                              Liberalism is trust of the people, tempered by prudence; conservatism, distrust of people, tempered by fear.
                              William E. Gladstone

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                              • #30
                                Re: Here it comes - federal registration of gun owners

                                Originally posted by Danny View Post
                                Do you want dead kids in a classroom or do you want a slight inconvenience when buying an assault weapon.? Seems straightforward.
                                That is an incredibly ignorant premise.

                                But you already know that.

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