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Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

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  • Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

    It seems that when talking to liberals about anything related to guns their level of education appears to be about equal to this Rolling Stone article. It's so bad that it's comedic gold. The problem is is that these are the types of people pushing to make gun laws and, unfortunately, the liberal congressmen aren't really much more educated on this subject than their supporters.

    http://youngcons.com/rolling-stones-...ns-in-america/

    Here are the “5 Most Dangerous Guns in America”:

    Pistol

    Rifle

    Shotgun

    Revolver

    Derringer
    You have to read the some of the comments they included.

    (Original article here: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-2000-20140714 )

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    Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

    Look, the modern liberal has decided to replace reality with fantasy, and that is the great problem with modern liberals. What they want doesn't take into account human nature, but something utterly devoid of human nature. It along the lines of what karl marx wrote in his utopian book. Looks great on paper, but because of the corrupting influence of human nature on everything in human existence, it simply doesn't work. Human nature will corrupt it, so it is not workable. So, it is pure fantasy, the idealism of modern liberalism.

    The intelligent way is simply to understand human nature, and then work with it, instead of against it. Use the Judo, not direct force. In the same manner a wood carver will not fight the grain, but will use the grain in order to arrive at something better.

    When it comes to guns, the problem is not the inanimate object, but the mind that wields it. Of course if you wanted to address the real problem, the mind, the modern liberal would reject it, for this would require teaching kids responsibility, personal, ethics and morality. The kids would have to be conditioned as to the great unquestionable value of all human life. And they could not agree to that, so, they go after the inanimate object, and want the mind to be whatever popular culture dictates. And popular culture is a beastly affair, lacking of values.

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      Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

      Hmmm .. the top 5 weapons, and it doesn't include assault weapons .. the one that liberals despise most. Also, the image they used on the "Rifle" page looks like an M4, as it has the selector switch with 3 positions -- and this isn't a rifle that a lot of people own.

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        Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

        This is a constitutionalist vs control freak issue. I know plenty of liberals with guns, one a union activist, another is one of te wimpiest lib on earth anyone met, another is a prep/survivalist blogger that is trans-gender. The press as usual distorts the issue and arguments to bend arguments and shift issues to reduce eveything to a moronic us vs them argument pitching Team D vs Team R. Yes there is a seeming trend where liberals support more gun control in the mean but it's a fantasy to imagine conservatives wouldn't be clamping down if they were in power with a decided maority over liberals.

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          Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

          Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
          It seems that when talking to liberals about anything related to guns their level of education appears to be about equal to this Rolling Stone article. It's so bad that it's comedic gold. The problem is is that these are the types of people pushing to make gun laws and, unfortunately, the liberal congressmen aren't really much more educated on this subject than their supporters.

          http://youngcons.com/rolling-stones-...ns-in-america/



          You have to read the some of the comments they included.

          (Original article here: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-2000-20140714 )
          And here's where the gun crowd fall off the trolley: how much do people who don't like our drug problem supposed to know about every drug that's out there?

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            Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

            Originally posted by jet57 View Post
            And here's where the gun crowd fall off the trolley: how much do people who don't like our drug problem supposed to know about every drug that's out there?
            Since we are talking about Rolling Stone, shouldn't we at least demand a little research before writing an article on the subject? I do not think it is an unreasonable request.

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              Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

              The article is pretty crap... No arguing there...

              But making a statement that since Rolling Stones Journalist knows little about guns then every liberal must know nothing about guns like the OP said, is just as stupid...

              Two bads don't make a right...

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                Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

                Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
                The article is pretty crap... No arguing there...

                But making a statement that since Rolling Stones Journalist knows little about guns then every liberal must know nothing about guns like the OP said, is just as stupid...

                Two bads don't make a right...
                If only you guys could apply that standard to gun owners.

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                  Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

                  Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
                  Since we are talking about Rolling Stone, shouldn't we at least demand a little research before writing an article on the subject? I do not think it is an unreasonable request.
                  I read the article, the research done comes from both FBI and ATF data. There's a brief general discription of each type listed from the data, so what's the problem? An ex Marine gunnery sergeant didn't write the article or provide tactical analysis of each crime scene?
                  Last edited by jet57; 07-16-2014, 05:20 PM.

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                    Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

                    Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
                    If only you guys could apply that standard to gun owners.
                    And whats wrong with some basic gun control like every where else in the western world...

                    Why do you not stop guns going into the wrong hands... Actually the pro gun lobby wants to stop all research into how guns go into the wrong hands...

                    Universal background checks for all sales : This has close to 80+% support...

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                      Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

                      Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                      I read the article, the research done comes from both FBI and ATF data. There's a brief general discription of each type listed from the data, so what's the problem? An ex Marine gunnery sergeant didn't write the article or provide tactical analysis of each crime scene?
                      Well .. Rolling Stone categorized the firearms into 5 groups (Rifles, Shotguns, Pistols, Revolvers and Derringers), and it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this covers just about every type of firearm. No shit .. guns are dangerous and will kill if not used properly (it's called crime).

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                        Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

                        Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
                        And whats wrong with some basic gun control like every where else in the western world...

                        Why do you not stop guns going into the wrong hands... Actually the pro gun lobby wants to stop all research into how guns go into the wrong hands...

                        Universal background checks for all sales : This has close to 80+% support...
                        How about we enforce all the laws we currently have before adding more? Additionally, while I don't disagree with background checks, how would it prevent mass murder (which you usually draw attention to)? Most mass murderers haven't had a criminal record nor a history of psychiatric care .. and even if they weren't eligible to purchase a firearm, they would most likely secure it from a reliable source (as did the Sandy Hook killer).

                        Please explain .. thanks

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                          Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

                          Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
                          The article is pretty crap... No arguing there...

                          But making a statement that since Rolling Stones Journalist knows little about guns then every liberal must know nothing about guns like the OP said, is just as stupid...

                          Two bads don't make a right...
                          Why people believe its a belief of liberals is that liberals don't seem to understand that the problem isn't guns, it's moral values. They are the ones who, like you, keep wanting to make it about guns.

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                            See Why Rolling Stone’s List of ‘Most Dangerous Guns’ Is Being Called ‘Maybe the Worst Piece of Journalism of All-Time’

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                            http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...m-of-all-time/

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                              Re: Ignorance of Liberals Regarding Guns.

                              Originally posted by jet57 View Post
                              I read the article, the research done comes from both FBI and ATF data. There's a brief general discription of each type listed from the data, so what's the problem? An ex Marine gunnery sergeant didn't write the article or provide tactical analysis of each crime scene?
                              That is a bit of a cop out.

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