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  • #46
    Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

    Why isn't this thread closed already? It's nothing but a picture book now anyways.

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    • #47
      Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

      Originally posted by Formaldehyde View Post
      Or when you are not excluding Hispanics from the bar you managed by requiring they show an in-state drivers license no matter how old they are? Or fearful that blacks from New Orleans won't try to take your money by force?

      I think someone from the border region of Mexico likely has more than enough reasons to point out the double standards and xenophobia of many Americans. He probably has to live with the ramifications of it every day of his life, as many members of minorities in the South must still do.


      Shows just how little you know...ANYONE of ANY age in a bar must be able to produce an ID on demand and can be turned away if the ID is unverifiable in the state of Louisiana. And yes, I turned away plenty of storm chasing Hispanics because they were uncivilized animals who thought spitting on the floor, grabbing women's asses, pulling knives, etc. was the normal thing to do. Things like that tend to kill a business but I don't expect you to understand that.
      As for the blacks....just watch the evening news in New Orleans, junior.

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      • #48
        Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

        Originally posted by Formaldehyde View Post
        Dirty wet needs to get his ass off that wall before his cross is hanging there.

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        • #49
          Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

          Originally posted by smallstuff View Post
          Tim here is your link, you funny guy, you! Africa Wars
          Most of the wars on your linked map coincide with high concentrations of Muslems. ( Africa Languages Religion) Are you saying that America is sending radical Muslims to Africa?

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          • #50
            Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

            The ones in Central and South Africa have as many Christians, some more, and the indigenous religions are still there too It's all about population anyway, religion is just the current excuse.

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            • #51
              Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

              You missed the analogy friend and I cannot help you understand it nor am I going to try and force you to come round to my point of view. You have your own mind made up and that is that. I appreciate you replying to my post and I hope no hard feelings. I did not come here to start ethnic wars but to start talking points whether you or others approve of the content or subject matter, that is what we are all here to do right. Best wishes to you in 2012.

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              • #52
                Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                Texan, my lands dear co-stater, you are know resporting to making implications of my analogy that was merely used to show the comparison between the strife and colonistic methodologies employed by Americans over other nations over the centuries. To show that we are not as well worshipped as you might wish to believe and that we, in many nations are looked at a militaristic and politicla bullies. Some nations lean on us heavy and use US as much as we use them for our own strategic and political aims.

                Do you for one minute think the war in Iraq was to free the Iraqi people from a despot ruler? Come one, it was oil, it was extension of our politicla aims to control and moderate The Middle East to insure this nation has a timely and somewhat dependable flow of petroleum products. If he were so heck bent on freeing nations from despot rulers, why haven't we invaded North Korea, Russia, China, Venezuela, and a plethora of other regions? I'll tell you why, number one, they'd kick our butts, number two they don;t have anything we vitally need.

                And look fellow Texan, as I said before I am here merely to start talking points whether other posters like my subjects or topics I select is immaterial. I am not here to make enemies or to insult or assault those who do not agree with my line of thought. Sometimes I even put out talking points I have zero committment with just to start a round of debate. I go to weekly debates in my little torso brace and wheelchair here in San Antonio at one of the local community colleges to look people in the face, with live moderators and to listen and learn. So I really hope nothing I have said previously has angered you, upset you or alienated you, that was not my intent and if I did, I openly apologize for it now.

                I just feel the need for Texans and Americans in general to realize that Texas nor the United States is NOT the center of the universe and othre nations have the same right to protect and defend themselves against our aggression as we do against them. And it is so en vogue today for Americans to build the pre-20th century isolation closet that we all need to understand that as much as we might want to keep out peoples from other nations, there are many who in other nations who would like to keep Americans and America's influence out of their nations as well. It is a two way street.

                We adopted the world policeman stance, that doesn't mean the rest of the world must agree or comply or even wants our involvement in their politicla or military affairs. We need to think about othre nations as soverign states like we think of ourselves and how would you as a fellow or Female friend Texan like to wake up one morning to the drone of Soviet made tanks rolling down main street in Fredericksburg, Texas, or Port Aransas, Rockport, Texas? Well plenty of nations have had us in the back pockets since 1941 and not all of them really want us even though it may be their government'ss official position to appear to want us, that doe not mean that the man and woman on the street do.

                My Inlaws live in Monterrey. And you hear undoubtedly about all the ciolence that goes on in Monterrey and Mexico in general. Do you know that I allow my tiny 115lb wife to drive the 5.5 hours from San Antonio, to Monterrey alone? That we just returned from 3 weeks of Christmas vacation by auto from Monterey. That the whole time I was in the city of over 5 Million people that I heard sirens (4) times only? That Monterrey has opened up (3) Commando centers all around the poorer and violent areas of Monterry and have heliports at each one and 250 troops live in these commando centers 24/7? I promise you they are not taking this thing lightl but the press is NOT telling you about these improvements or victories but they only splash the television screen with the negatives, much as they do about our own country. My brother in law is an Olympic training coach for Mexico on the young or should I say female teenagers gymnastics division. He had (1) girl who I will call "Chellie" make it to the televised qualification finals. She chocked with all th media attention and admittedly did poorly but she was there and she placed 50th out of 160 of so participants in three gymnastic events. To me it was impressive. She cried due to herr failure and if you could see her practice at home, you would be stunned at her aptitude but in that 10 seconds of fame, she choked and lost. Does that mean Mexico has died, is failing as a nation.....no, just the opposite, it shows that no matter the amount of crime and violence and slanted news reporting Mexico is going on with life, fighting back and winning, albeit slowly against the cartels and like the US they will NEVER beat the cartels. The US has been battling illicit drugs since the 1930's and not put a dent in it but they have not given up.

                Now Muslims are people too and again it is like me calling you a bigot just because you are white....is that morally or ethically or even mathmatically correct? Of course not. Just because white America in the past labeled all Blacks as lazy, drunkards and illegitimate sub humans does that make that a proper analogy.......heck no! Muslim people are good people. In the early 1980's I was a young 2nd Lieutenant and after graduating from The Military Academy in Toowson, maryland I had the privilege to go to Fort drum, New York to spend (3) weeks training a US Amry Unit in Civil Disturbance Training. The unit was made up of 100% sikhs. Turbans, customary beards and daggers. The most handsome unit of fighting men you ever saw assembled. When they marched in the US Army uniform they reminded me a bit of the British Colonial Indian Troops of WWII and proud they were and choked up this 19 year old Lieutenant got when they passed by. They trained hard. They took me as seriously as if I were a 30 year veteran and the status of a General Officer and whne the training was done and their Anglo-Saxon Company Commander presented them with the certificates of completion, I was invited by the company 1st Sergeant, a Sikh to stay and have a traditional meal with them that Friday evening. I was treated like a king.

                So over my years I have learned not to try and pidgeon hole any group anymore, no matter the color or the affiliation. There is good and bad in all races, religions and ethnic origins and though I do not always do well, I try to ignore the negatives in people and look for the positives in other people. I no longer own guns, after getting out of the military and I feel as secure as some of these nutes that carry whoulder holsters, boot guns, belt-buckle stelletos and brass knuckles. How paranoid can one get and still live a normal life.

                I don't know, call me crazy, naive or juts plain stupid, your choice, your right. I just wanted to try and explain that we Americans don;t own the world, we do not rule it and if we had applied to us the same hate and logic that we would claim to want to apply to others, we'd be barred from entering many nations by popular national decision and left to rot on our own with many smaller nations banning together to invade, disrupt and or overthrow our government.

                Do you not think that if China, North Korea, Iran, Russia and Venezuels and Bolivia and Argentina wanted to they could not beat us to a pulp? They are all on speaking terms, trading partners, weapons traders and (openly anti-American) but it is all rhetoric....political rhetoric. They may say they do not like us but each and every one of them needs us as bad as we need them. Did you know under the US Patriot Act that US Corporations are NOT allowed to do business in Iran? However of American Corporations hire and install Iranian presidens, CEO's CIO's, CO's and COO's, that it is p[erfectly legal for corporations like GE, Exxon-Mobil and other (AMERICAN LOVING) corporations to set up shop in Iran and legally sidestep the very laws that the last administration put into place?! Yessir!!!!! Sure as shootin! Now were they dummies that left those loopholes or was that done intentionally to allow American business to do it's thing while llying to you and me about "Not doing business with Terrorist states and Terrorist Supporting States"? You tell me.

                Drop me a line sometime and feel free to beat me up 24/7!

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                • #53
                  Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                  SOOT- Is he any diretier or wet than you? How do you even know the circumstances to make such a demeaning statement of another human being. Could he be being chased by armed coyotes, human traffickers and runnign for his life. Is his child in the hospital in the US? Is he a maintenance worker on the Mexican side of the fence. You immediately conclude he is sub-human and illegal, which he in fact may be but again. How do I know you are any different or better than he? You are the one with the avatar of two crossed rifles on a bed. I bet he has a cross wit Christ or the Virgin de Guadalupe ove his bed.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                    Cross the border into Mexico without the proper paperwork and it's a felony regardless of what one hangs on a wall.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                      My lord I did not think that I would ever find someone this moronic, and ignorant on a site such as this. Tribal wars in Africa are there because of the culture of those who live there, and the fact is slavery was there before us, and will be for all time, those who live there love it. I mean how else can anyone explain the fetish with chopping up women and children that they have. America should actually stay out of all areas other than those that were spoke of in the Monroe Doctrine, unless of course a sovereign nation directly asks us for aid, and then we should have the guarantee that some dumbo with a bomb, and a low IQ isn't going to blow people there for good up. Do I find oil companies evil? There is only one group in the world as evil, and that is muslims. I realize that this may sound bigoted, but all who know me realize just how much thought and research that had to be done for me to say something like this, if any doubt these words, just look at the behavior they show when they do not like something, even mundane things.

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                      • #56
                        Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                        Originally posted by smallstuff View Post
                        SOOT- Is he any diretier or wet than you? How do you even know the circumstances to make such a demeaning statement of another human being. Could he be being chased by armed coyotes, human traffickers and runnign for his life. Is his child in the hospital in the US? Is he a maintenance worker on the Mexican side of the fence. You immediately conclude he is sub-human and illegal, which he in fact may be but again. How do I know you are any different or better than he? You are the one with the avatar of two crossed rifles on a bed. I bet he has a cross wit Christ or the Virgin de Guadalupe ove his bed.
                        I used to visit Mexico from time to time, and yes there are many people that I have met there, and other Latin areas that are not only good hearted people, they have been great friends to me. Your hypothetical situations that were so erroneously spelled, are ridiculous. If he had a child in that situation, some American, North American, citizens would probably pay for the trip and the hospital care, we do this as a country quite often. And as far as illegal entry, just try to cross the border to Mexico in such a way, especially from the south, and you will more than likely wish they had killed you, not to mention the habit of a surprisingly large part of the population south of us who kidnap, rape, prostitute, enslave and kill us gringos. Also, there are no virgins in Guadalupe, I've been there.

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                        • #57
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                          smallstuff - I don't know how you came up with America causing tribal wars in Africa. Just because there are wars, doesn't mean they were caused by America. I believe a nation's borders are sovreign. If a country wants to keep anybody out for any reason is fine by me. If every country in the world banned Americans from entering their borders it would be their right to do so. To promote the banning of Americans from leaving our borders is just dumb. My point in attacking Mexico is to show that if you quarrentine Americans, you might as well make everybody stay home.

                          I'll be the first to admit I have a hard spot in my heart for Mexico. I'll explain why. My dad was forced into retirement with nothing but social security because he couldn't compete with "illegal" labor while he was obeying the rules. My tax dollars are paying for the education, welfare, and medical care of illegals. That takes away my freedom. I'm working for them now. When my oldest son was 18 months old, we were told to wait in line behind a bunch of illegals in the ER. My son had a 106 degree fever and it turned out to be meningitis. My son almost died because my ER was packed with people who weren't supposed to be there and were receiving medical care at my expense. It's not a racial thing. It's a legal thing. America's borders are just as sovreign as the next country's and we can no longer afford to coddle Mexicans.

                          You complain about Americans getting cheap healthcare in Mexico. The difference is that Americans are paying the going rate and are helping the Mexican economy. Last I heard, Mexicos biggest industry behind government ran oil is Mexicans sending money home from America for their retirement when they return to Mexico. They drive our insurance rates up, use our government services, commit massive identity theft and fraud, and take our jobs away from our teenagers and unskilled workers. My teenagers are having a very hard time finding jobs. Maybe we should ban Mexicans from leaving Mexico. Does that statement make you see the lunacy of this thread?

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                            Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                            Originally posted by LeftnorRight View Post
                            My lord I did not think that I would ever find someone this moronic, and ignorant on a site such as this. Tribal wars in Africa are there because of the culture of those who live there, and the fact is slavery was there before us, and will be for all time, those who live there love it. I mean how else can anyone explain the fetish with chopping up women and children that they have. America should actually stay out of all areas other than those that were spoke of in the Monroe Doctrine, unless of course a sovereign nation directly asks us for aid, and then we should have the guarantee that some dumbo with a bomb, and a low IQ isn't going to blow people there for good up. Do I find oil companies evil? There is only one group in the world as evil, and that is muslims. I realize that this may sound bigoted, but all who know me realize just how much thought and research that had to be done for me to say something like this, if any
                            doubt these words, just look at the behavior they show when they do not like something, even mundane things.
                            We would probably be good friends with many whom we detest if they were just a bit more sophisticated in the way they killed folks. (Men women and children).


                            Our religions are not too different in respect to their aims.


                            We shoot 'em, roast, 'em toast 'em almost as they do but with much more elegant means.

                            We now have laws circumventing theConstitution that allow one person to order assassination
                            and indefinite secrete incarceration without trial.

                            Our motives often seem to closely relate to those we chastise.


                            Maybe we need what we are installing to survive but hypocrisy rules the day.








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                            • #59
                              Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                              Originally posted by Mrs. M View Post
                              Shows just how little you know...ANYONE of ANY age in a bar must be able to produce an ID on demand and can be turned away if the ID is unverifiable in the state of Louisiana. And yes, I turned away plenty of storm chasing Hispanics because they were uncivilized animals who thought spitting on the floor, grabbing women's asses, pulling knives, etc. was the normal thing to do. Things like that tend to kill a business but I don't expect you to understand that.
                              As for the blacks....just watch the evening news in New Orleans, junior.
                              Anybody who cards someone who is clearly above the drinking age to discriminate against them is violating the law. And you apparently had no idea whether the people you discriminated against were these boogeymen whom you characterize as being "uncivilized animals". Profiling is against the law. It is a violation of their civil rights.

                              And the vast majority of blacks are law-abiding citizens, even those from New Orleans. There is no reason to fear them.
                              Last edited by Formaldehyde; 01-09-2012, 06:54 PM.

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                                Re: Ban All Americans From Leaving The US

                                Originally posted by Formaldehyde View Post
                                Anybody who cards someone who is clearly above the drinking age to discriminate against them is violating the law. And you apparently had no idea whether the people you discriminated against were these boogeymen whom you characterize as being "uncivilized animals". Profiling is against the law. It is a violation of their civil rights.

                                And the vast majority of blacks are law-abiding citizens, even those from New Orleans. There is no reason to fear them.
                                Total and absolute bullshit. By Louisiana law, I can and should card EVERYONE who walks in, regardless of age. Also, by Louisiana law, I can refuse service and considering that there was never any trouble at the bar until those filthy animals thought it was okay to grab women's asses, spit on the floors, pull knives, etc., I was well within my rights to not only require a Louisiana ID but to also ban the troublemakers. Maybe you should take a class on the subject as I have before spouting your bullshit.

                                What's your obsession with New Orleans black people?

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