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  • Good news on immigration.

    Today a split decission by the supreme court kept in place the lower court decission that blocked Obama's immigration reform which would have allowed 5 million illegal immigrants to stay in the country without fear of deportation. Good news indeed there is no reason why tax money should be wasted on tresspassers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/23/politi...supreme-court/

  • #2
    Bigot.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
      Bigot.
      Lol, I don't think you can be a bigot in this manner if you are against ALL illegal aliens as I am. I know plenty of latinos that have nothing nice to say about illegal aliens, they (or their parents) went through the steps and are legal citizens. I know a dominican lady who joined the army and was in for the first few years of her boy's life to provide for her son and become a citizen anyone with something bad to say about her shouldn't be able to call themselves an American; she has no kind words for illegals.

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      • #4
        Some of the liberals are mad at Obama for deporting 2 million in his time in office, more than the GOP Bush did. They think he is too hard on illegal immigrants. The right thinks he is too soft.

        I am glad though that these dictatorial executives orders are being kinda reigned in. These things really flowered under Nixon, who faced with a democratic house and senate, wanting to do things by going around them, for otherwise why even have a republican in office? And these things have exploded in number and scope since that time. Rulers would love to be dictators, and so will push against the constitutional bonds that restrain them. If you only look at the history of rulers, the commonality present, over 6000 years, it should be a teaching moment which connects you with reality. It should then play a role in forming the rules gov't has to live by, so that what is a human tendency found in those people to are driven to get to the ruling class, is counteracted, by the law, the rules, and policy which places clear limits on power. For the two things in this world that enables evil to soil and harm humanity, is big money and power. Both are dangerous, and both have to be controlled, in the interest of society. In the interest of the 99 percent.

        So I believe if your ideological beliefs reject this, you will always be a part of the problem, and can never contribute to any solution. One has to understand what man is, and what his nature is, and how that has affected negatively human societies across time. And you have to then construct a system with this in mind, and guiding the way it is structured. Or you end up in devastation, social disorder, and society cannot stand this, cannot endure it for long. Nations have risen and fallen, ceased to exist, by being conquered yes, but also by not having a structure in place, that protects against what big money, greed, and power can do to the society at large. By not having a structure in place that seeks to temper and limit what human nature does to a system. And then there must be vigilance, for those things of human nature that corrupt, is always looking for a crack, in order to get outside the system that limits. The moment the vigilance stops, that is the beginning of the end. It will then either change, or corrupt the system that did not allow greed to thrive, and replace it with one where greed is once again making the rules, structuring the system. This happened, beginning really in the 1970s. A crack opened, and that thing that corrupts got out of the handcuffs. I think the crack was caused by the tripling of energy costs, the oil embargo, which sent a shock through an industrial economy, and created economic problems that then reverberated through out, even affecting tax revenues from depressed economic activity. Stagflation. But Keyes never figured in what a tripling of oil prices could create in an economy based upon cheap energy costs. And this energy crisis set up an opening for neoliberalism to get back dictating economy policy. Gov't was the problem became the Reagan mantra. Get gov't out of the way they said. It is causing all of these economic problems, which was a big black lie, for it was the tripling of energy costs in an advanced economy that was geared around cheap energy that was the root of the problem. So, this was the crack, and neoliberalism, the darling of greed, its best friend, came back, due to a lie being told. And the America today, which is far from the America created by FDR New Deal thinking, is the result of the energy crisis, which allowed the worst kind of economy to be created. A economy that is structured to try to satiate the greed at the top. We really didn't get gov't out of the way. Gov't was just removed from protecting the People from the greed of the elites, and moved over to mesh in with the banking cabal and big corporations and the elites who own them. That was sold as getting the gov't out of the way, and voters bought into it, after the suffering created by the tripling of energy costs. Well, they finally are coming out of their stupor, and this election cycle is evidence for that, given that open borders free trade globalization is driving this on both sides, sanders and trump.

        So I think the folks are ready to return to something like FDR gave us. Protection from the greed of the sociopaths at the top, and their politician puppets who dance for money.

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          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
          Some of the liberals are mad at Obama for deporting 2 million in his time in office, more than the GOP Bush did. They think he is too hard on illegal immigrants. The right thinks he is too soft.

          I am glad though that these dictatorial executives orders are being kinda reigned in. These things really flowered under Nixon, who faced with a democratic house and senate, wanting to do things by going around them, for otherwise why even have a republican in office? And these things have exploded in number and scope since that time. Rulers would love to be dictators, and so will push against the constitutional bonds that restrain them. If you only look at the history of rulers, the commonality present, over 6000 years, it should be a teaching moment which connects you with reality. It should then play a role in forming the rules gov't has to live by, so that what is a human tendency found in those people to are driven to get to the ruling class, is counteracted, by the law, the rules, and policy which places clear limits on power. For the two things in this world that enables evil to soil and harm humanity, is big money and power. Both are dangerous, and both have to be controlled, in the interest of society. In the interest of the 99 percent.

          So I believe if your ideological beliefs reject this, you will always be a part of the problem, and can never contribute to any solution. One has to understand what man is, and what his nature is, and how that has affected negatively human societies across time. And you have to then construct a system with this in mind, and guiding the way it is structured. Or you end up in devastation, social disorder, and society cannot stand this, cannot endure it for long. Nations have risen and fallen, ceased to exist, by being conquered yes, but also by not having a structure in place, that protects against what big money, greed, and power can do to the society at large. By not having a structure in place that seeks to temper and limit what human nature does to a system. And then there must be vigilance, for those things of human nature that corrupt, is always looking for a crack, in order to get outside the system that limits. The moment the vigilance stops, that is the beginning of the end. It will then either change, or corrupt the system that did not allow greed to thrive, and replace it with one where greed is once again making the rules, structuring the system. This happened, beginning really in the 1970s. A crack opened, and that thing that corrupts got out of the handcuffs. I think the crack was caused by the tripling of energy costs, the oil embargo, which sent a shock through an industrial economy, and created economic problems that then reverberated through out, even affecting tax revenues from depressed economic activity. Stagflation. But Keyes never figured in what a tripling of oil prices could create in an economy based upon cheap energy costs. And this energy crisis set up an opening for neoliberalism to get back dictating economy policy. Gov't was the problem became the Reagan mantra. Get gov't out of the way they said. It is causing all of these economic problems, which was a big black lie, for it was the tripling of energy costs in an advanced economy that was geared around cheap energy that was the root of the problem. So, this was the crack, and neoliberalism, the darling of greed, its best friend, came back, due to a lie being told. And the America today, which is far from the America created by FDR New Deal thinking, is the result of the energy crisis, which allowed the worst kind of economy to be created. A economy that is structured to try to satiate the greed at the top. We really didn't get gov't out of the way. Gov't was just removed from protecting the People from the greed of the elites, and moved over to mesh in with the banking cabal and big corporations and the elites who own them. That was sold as getting the gov't out of the way, and voters bought into it, after the suffering created by the tripling of energy costs. Well, they finally are coming out of their stupor, and this election cycle is evidence for that, given that open borders free trade globalization is driving this on both sides, sanders and trump.

          So I think the folks are ready to return to something like FDR gave us. Protection from the greed of the sociopaths at the top, and their politician puppets who dance for money.
          The only reason Obama's deportation numbers are so high is because they changed the way they count deportees. If someone is turned back at the border, they are now counted as a deportation. Another lie spread by Democrats.

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            Does this mean that they won't be able to vote in November?

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            • #7
              It definitely sticks Clinton with an albatross. She,s going to explain to Americans why illegal aliens and their children are as important as us and their children in the eyes of the law and economic plans of this nation.
              Last edited by JDJarvis; 06-29-2016, 05:09 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                Lol, I don't think you can be a bigot in this manner if you are against ALL illegal aliens as I am. .
                Well, you don't think you can be called a bigot, but that reasonable un-bigoted opinion will get you called a bigot.

                Some don't even know what illegal immigration means.

                https://youtu.be/wAeB_yl2E90?t=2

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                • #9
                  Another black eye for Trump as the courts block his efforts to punish sanctuary cities.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    Another black eye for Trump as the courts block his efforts to punish sanctuary cities.
                    You read too much fake news. The courts did no such thing. Trump's executive order said he would, unlike Obama, enforce the law. The judge rule that this might cause some" pre-enforcement anxiety" among those cities which are breaking the law. In no way, does it block him from enforcing the current law and withholding grant money from the offending states. It's just a silly political statement by an Obama appointed Judge that changes absolutely nothing.

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                    • #11
                      No funding for the border wall. Those damn Mexicans are such obstructionists. I n the meantime murderers and rapists are poring into the country. I might have to buy some more b-b-s for my daisy pump. I'll shoot their eyes out if I must.

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                        Originally posted by redrover View Post
                        No funding for the border wall. Those damn Mexicans are such obstructionists. I n the meantime murderers and rapists are poring into the country. I might have to buy some more b-b-s for my daisy pump. I'll shoot their eyes out if I must.
                        The budget that just passes was supposed to be passed by last October. Congress failed to do so The only reason this budget contains what it did is because it had to be passed to avoid a government shutdown, something the Republicans tremble in their boots over. In my opinion, they will lose more votes for passing this than they would have by shutting down the government.

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                          There is a price we will pay for liberal immigration policies.

                          We're currently doing our best to ignore & deny the effects we can already see.

                          When they can no longer be ignored, we must consider how we plan to explain to our children & grandchildren why we allowed our country to be ruined by our own decisions.

                          ---------------------

                          ...historian Carroll Quigley, a former professor at Georgetown University who taught and influenced future president Bill Clinton, demonstrated that cultures and civilizations are fatally weakened from within by a rejection of the principles upon which they were built, and then after being so weakened, are finished off by outsiders who "submerge" (i.e., inundate) them.

                          ...


                          Progressives and liberals, in their pursuit of "diversity," smugly assert that no matter what differences exist among people from various cultures, nations, and regions of the world, the similarities are more important. In the end, people care about the same basic thing: making a better life for themselves, their children, and their families.

                          This appeal to emotion deliberately ignores a crucial fact: large numbers of people from many other cultures, nations, and regions either reject outright, oppose, or are indifferent to individual rights; specifically, the unalienable rights of individuals, set forth in the Declaration of Independence, upon which the United States was founded and built.

                          ...

                          The consequences of such "diversity" are dire. Many experts on history and politics have demonstrated that cultural, national, and regional factors play a decisive role in human behavior, and that people with a collectivist or authoritarian heritage are far more likely to support violations of individual rights by a government, or authoritarian conduct by a government, or both, for the purpose of securing government-invented group rights and other collectivist policies.

                          ...in the past, immigrants not only came to America to become Americans, but American society itself expected immigrants to assimilate; specifically, to learn and to adopt the elements of American culture, including the principles set forth in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. But during recent decades, in the name of diversity, Progressives, liberals, and many advocacy organizations (including Hispanic advocacy organizations such as La Raza, and Muslim advocacy organizations such as CAIR) have been encouraging immigrants to keep their native cultures. In the words of Sowell, there are many people today, including politicians, who are working actively "to keep foreigners foreign and to make other Americans accept and adjust to that."

                          Governments do not exist to pursue ideological concepts or utopian fantasies such as diversity; governments exist to secure the rights of the people. Indeed, the United States was created on this principle, which is enshrined in the Declaration of Independence.

                          The federal government's policies on immigration and refugees, though, not only undermine the securing of the unalienable rights of the nation's citizens, but also pose a serious threat to the nation's future


                          http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...sity_trap.html

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