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  • #46
    I can see that whatever I say you'll claim I'm wrong.

    I've given you examples of nations like the UK and Germany that have taken in migrants and not become a mad max style wasteland and many others throughout history who've seen even worse and showed what the US is going through now isn't the catastrophe Trump claims it is but there's no convincing you.

    This isn't a flood of Migrants and the US is more than capable of coping you've just decided for whatever reason that you don't want to.
    That's fine and your choice but you can't make that choice and expect that many people will disagree with that as a policy of the US government and say so by open and completely legal protest.


    • #47
      Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
      I can see that whatever I say you'll claim I'm wrong.

      I've given you examples of nations like the UK and Germany that have taken in migrants and not become a mad max style wasteland and many others throughout history who've seen even worse and showed what the US is going through now isn't the catastrophe Trump claims it is but there's no convincing you.

      This isn't a flood of Migrants and the US is more than capable of coping you've just decided for whatever reason that you don't want to.
      That's fine and your choice but you can't make that choice and expect that many people will disagree with that as a policy of the US government and say so by open and completely legal protest.
      Regardless of whether "the US is more than capable of coping" with the illegal immigrants, the illegal immigrants have to legal stand nor legal right to be in the country. Period.

      If they want to immigrate into the US, fine. Do it legally.

      Allowing illegals to remain in the country is only a magnet that draws ever more to do the same.


      • #48
        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
        I can see that whatever I say you'll claim I'm wrong.
        Not necessarily.

        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
        I've given you examples of nations like the UK and Germany that have taken in migrants and not become a mad max style wasteland and many others throughout history who've seen even worse and showed what the US is going through now isn't the catastrophe Trump claims it is but there's no convincing you.
        The problems these people bring in, are real. Your own country is having issues with all of the "migrants" it's allowed itself to bring in.

        Other countries are having troubles with this too.

        Let's just be honest about these issues.

        Countries need to have borders and laws about who comes in, that's what we're saying.

        The U.S. has made a mockery of it's own laws, so I don't really blame the people coming here. They know we'll let them come here and take care of them.

        We even adapt for them and speak their language for them LOL

        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
        This isn't a flood of Migrants and the US is more than capable of coping you've just decided for whatever reason that you don't want to.
        Not true.

        We have to start following & enforcing our own laws.

        If we do not, we will continue being invaded.

        And why shouldn't we ? We've caused this problem NOT THEM !

        As said in the post above;

        Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
        Allowing illegals to remain in the country is only a magnet that draws ever more to do the same.
        That's what we're getting for being fools.

        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
        That's fine and your choice but you can't make that choice and expect that many people will disagree with that as a policy of the US government and say so by open and completely legal protest.


        • #49
          Why do these crazy democrats want to keep our southern border open ?

          Power... money.. votes.. it's always about power !!

          They are power mad.

          The "green" deal - about power.

          Their hate for the current president - about power.

          Everything these people do, is about their love of power. Their power !! Their wealth !! Their lifestyle !!

          It ISN'T about helping the American people.


          The ostensible motivations given for certain beliefs and actions, such as helping the underprivileged, are often cover for actions actually motivated by a desire to protect the privileges of the elites -- the power structure.

          For example, the Democrats claim to be motivated by a desire to help the underprivileged. But their actions are clearly motivated by a desire to protect their own power and privileges.

          Encouraging mass immigration of illegals who compete for lower-level jobs does not help the underprivileged, rather it creates a new group of voters that will support the Democrats. It also helps privileged groups by supplying cheap labor.

          for example, wealthy Marin County, California. Marin is largely populated by well-to-do and highly educated professional people. An underclass of often illegal immigrants provides affordable services such as yard work and babysitting.

          In the 2012 presidential election, Marin voted 74% for Obama. In the 2016 election, Marin voted 77% for Hillary and only 16% for Trump. Another wealthy California county, Santa Clara County, is the heart of Silicon Valley. In the 2016 election, Santa Clara County voted only 21% for Trump. Fresno County, California, a county that is majority Hispanic with a very high poverty rate, voted 43% for Trump. California as a whole voted 32% for Trump. The nation as a whole voted 46% for Trump. In the borough of Manhattan, in New York City, one of the wealthiest places in the country, only 10% of the votes went for Trump. Clearly the privileged class votes Democratic and strongly opposes Trump.

          In places inhabited by elites, the Democrats dominate. Trumps victory was built on heavy voting by working class people who do not share in the patronage the Democrats bestow on identity groups held up as victims.

          The groups that are true victims, such as people whose jobs have been outsourced to low-wage countries, rebelled against the Democrats and elected Trump.

          Clearly the Democrats represent the elite, ruling class. That is not to say that the Republicans are not fellow travelers with the Democrats.

          Much of the right-leaning intellectual and political classes side with the Democrats in their hatred of Trump. Many politicians hide their dislike of Trump for fear of being primaried.

          The reaction of the elites to Trumps election was to launch an extra-legal attack with phony charges of Russian collusion. The FBI and Justice Department adopted police-state tactics such as wiretapping, entrapment, and even placing suspects in solitary confinement for lengthy periods in order to pressure them to testify against Trump. Most of the press, themselves part of the elite, participated wholeheartedly in this effort to destroy Trump and remove him from office.

          The elite, Democrats and Republicans, that ran the country before Trump were presiding over a slow national decline.

          The economy was shackled by regulation and taxes. Problems were not solved but kicked down the road.

          The global warming crisis is an example of a phony crisis, belief in which became a politically correct necessity. The solutions proposed for the global warming non-crisis, such as turning the economy upside down and powering it with windmills, would be comical except that the advocates of such policies are serious. Obviously measures to reduce CO2 emissions are useless because 86% of emissions come from other countries, most of which have no plans to join in the suicidal Green New Deal. Before Trump, the U.S. was drifting without direction and distracted by irrelevant fads and imaginary problems.

          Trump is the leader of the aspiring ruling class. He and his supporters are savagely attacked. Trump is depicted as being a criminal, an eccentric know-nothing, someone driven by a lack of impulse control, or a racist. But Trump is a genuine political talent. He has shrewdly fended off the attacks and has an excellent chance of being reelected. He is helped by the disorganization and extremism of his opponents in the declining ruling class.

          If a new ruling class, inspired by Trump, consolidates power, many of the occupants of sinecures in government and education will be in danger of losing their jobs. Under the old elite, universities have become overfinanced monsters, exploiting students whose futures are mortgaged by student debt. This outrage is allowed to continue because the universities brainwash youth to support the old ruling class and because the universities provide intellectual support for the policies of the old ruling class. Under the old ruling class, the government has become heavily populated by time-servers whose continued employment would become unnecessary under a Trump-inspired reorganization of the government.

          Change is a clear and present danger to those in charge. That is what is behind the fierce and illegal attacks against Trump. Trump is clearly best hope for the future of the USA. We are very lucky that Trump managed to outsmart the establishment and remain president.