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  • Someone Doesn't understand his job...

    This LEO seems to not understand his job very well when he assaults a woman on a sidewalk, steals her property and destroys her property. He has no right and no legal power to act in that fashion on a public way while supposedly engaged in law enforcement.
    What is tellng on all fronts is the other officers do not move to act.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=18&v=O-J-6SkuKJ0

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    There doesn't seem to be enough context to make an informed opinion. We only know what the video wants us to see, and don't have any context to what happened prior to the altercation and/or video.
    Last edited by jotathought; 04-21-2015, 02:06 PM.

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    • #3
      There is no context that allows a LEO to assault you, steal from you, and destroy your property is there?

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      • #4
        Yes, we can be certain that the women recording the officers, and the person recording the women recording the officers, do not understand the officers job.

        And we can know that without even watching the video. Seriously people, you wouldn't like a peanut gallery overlooking everything you do, have the same courtesy for your fellow man. And if you can't muster up enough courtesy for those who keep law and order, keep in mind that if cop watchers can record police proceedings to insinuate guilt until they are proven innocent, then perp watchers can record police proceedings to insinuate guilt until they are proven innocent. You reap what you sow.

        That said, that US Marshall owes that women a new cell phone. No matter how obnoxious these ne'er–do–well's might be, and least in the video provided, both aspiring Hollywood directors where staying out of the way, you only feed the trolls by calling them out on it. Which only makes life more difficult for future officers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Commodore View Post
          Yes, we can be certain that the women recording the officers, and the person recording the women recording the officers, do not understand the officers job.

          And we can know that without even watching the video. Seriously people, you wouldn't like a peanut gallery overlooking everything you do, have the same courtesy for your fellow man. And if you can't muster up enough courtesy for those who keep law and order, keep in mind that if cop watchers can record police proceedings to insinuate guilt until they are proven innocent, then perp watchers can record police proceedings to insinuate guilt until they are proven innocent. You reap what you sow.

          That said, that US Marshall owes that women a new cell phone. No matter how obnoxious these ne'er–do–well's might be, and least in the video provided, both aspiring Hollywood directors where staying out of the way, you only feed the trolls by calling them out on it. Which only makes life more difficult for future officers.
          So you would be happier if the police are allowed to do what they want? And never to record them acting like thugs? Oh, you must be one of those law and order conservatives? LOL

          This stuff has gone on for years. and that is a fact. Now that people can record the idiots, showing them up for what they are, that is feeding the trolls. Unbelievable.

          The cop should be relieved of duty. Perhaps he can sling hamburgers. When the peanut gallery is an American citizen exercising their rights, they are no longer in the peanut gallery.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
            There is no context that allows a LEO to assault you, steal from you, and destroy your property is there?
            Steal? a bit hyperbolic don't you think? The point is, we do not have adequate context to understand why the officer responded with force, and it's unproductive to create hypothetical scenarios.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
              The cop should be relieved of duty. Perhaps he can sling hamburgers. When the peanut gallery is an American citizen exercising their rights, they are no longer in the peanut gallery.
              Why would you relieve someone when you don't know the detail? Got a little bit of guilty before proven innocent going on there .. eh?

              The officer is being investigated, and if he acted outside his authority, then he will face consequences. Until then, it really doesn't do any good to theorize.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                So you would be happier if the police are allowed to do what they want?
                I'd be happy if people didn't try to legislate from the curb, or otherwise try to prove their innocence with might makes right. The police are not there to argue the merits of the law with you, or even your guilt or innocence, they are there to bring you before a judge and/or a jury of your peers, who's job it is to determine your guilt or innocence. If you resist, the police have to use force do their job. Resisting proves nothing, and only hurts you, the police, and innocent bystanders, and we'd all be better off if we didn't encourage it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jotathought View Post

                  Steal? a bit hyperbolic don't you think? The point is, we do not have adequate context to understand why the officer responded with force, and it's unproductive to create hypothetical scenarios.
                  Taking propety from someone else without their permission is theft, certanly so when the intent is to deprive thier use of thier property.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jotathought View Post

                    Why would you relieve someone when you don't know the detail? Got a little bit of guilty before proven innocent going on there .. eh?

                    The officer is being investigated, and if he acted outside his authority, then he will face consequences. Until then, it really doesn't do any good to theorize.
                    There is no legal authority to assault someone, sieze property, and destroy it with no review and no accounting for the act, is there? It does plenty of good to theorize And point at what is wrong.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                      Taking propety from someone else without their permission is theft, certanly so when the intent is to deprive thier use of thier property.
                      I will wait until the investigation is complete before rushing to judgment -- Even though I am not biased against law enforcement like yourself, I fully support disciplinary action if the investigation and/or pending civil suit deem he acted outside his authority -- I'd rather have a court of law make that determination instead of an anonymous Internet personality.

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                      • #12
                        Most police are decent people.

                        They're people though .. will be some scum in there. Just be respectful and VERY careful around ALL of 'em and you'll probably be Ok.

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                        • #13
                          That marsahal doesn't seem to understad there is this document called The Constituion which makes his actions unconstitional in addditon to his other criminal actions.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                            Most police are decent people.

                            They're people though .. will be some scum in there. Just be respectful and VERY careful around ALL of 'em and you'll probably be Ok.
                            And police departments have historically had lots of corruption. Because, any person granted power over others, whether its police or politicians, seem to lean to the dark side. Power and human nature creates this. But we also have principled men in law enforcement, but here lately it seems that we have many less principled men, for American have lost many of the old principles that we had.

                            The latest thing now is in Baltimore, the guy who mysteriously got his back neck broke and died while in a van in police custody, handcuffed. And the cops, the 6 who had him, have no idea how his neck got broke, which killed him. I guess he must have broke his own neck. At some point, my money says a heavy cop with a knee came down on the back of his neck, as we see often on the show COPS. Not supposed to do that, but that hurts the perp the most, and its probably hard not to inflict that kinda pain on a guy who is on the ground with 6 cops on him.

                            We need to start drafting cops, from the general population, where they serve one 6 year term, and then are discharged. This would week out the sociopaths somewhat, and the thugs. Of course we should test these men heavily with psyche tests before we qualify them to be trusted with the public. I had a job in the military where we were put through a battery of these kinds of tests, to cull out certain people. Short fuses would get you disqualified, and some of these tests were structured to bring that out, a short fuse, or the inability to work in great cooperation with others.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                              And police departments have historically had lots of corruption. Because, any person granted power over others, whether its police or politicians, seem to lean to the dark side. Power and human nature creates this. But we also have principled men in law enforcement, but here lately it seems that we have many less principled men, for American have lost many of the old principles that we had.

                              The latest thing now is in Baltimore, the guy who mysteriously got his back neck broke and died while in a van in police custody, handcuffed. And the cops, the 6 who had him, have no idea how his neck got broke, which killed him. I guess he must have broke his own neck. At some point, my money says a heavy cop with a knee came down on the back of his neck, as we see often on the show COPS. Not supposed to do that, but that hurts the perp the most, and its probably hard not to inflict that kinda pain on a guy who is on the ground with 6 cops on him.

                              We need to start drafting cops, from the general population, where they serve one 6 year term, and then are discharged. This would week out the sociopaths somewhat, and the thugs. Of course we should test these men heavily with psyche tests before we qualify them to be trusted with the public. I had a job in the military where we were put through a battery of these kinds of tests, to cull out certain people. Short fuses would get you disqualified, and some of these tests were structured to bring that out, a short fuse, or the inability to work in great cooperation with others.
                              I agree ..

                              I think we're missing one thing though.

                              These kinds of events are nothing new.

                              All of a sudden we see the mainstream media painting this crap all over the news.

                              Why ? What is the motive here ?

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