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  • Remember Eric Garner?

    Remember Eric Garner a pett criminal killed while being arrested for selling loose cigarettes ? http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/st...icle-1.1871486

    How could you....there have been over 800 people killed by police since the nation debated if they were seeing a man killed on the street by police for a petty transaction.

    http://www.killedbypolice.net/kbp2014.html
    http://www.killedbypolice.net/

    And to soothe the apologists for brutality here are the police officers who have fallen so far this year:
    https://www.odmp.org/search/year

  • #2
    Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
    Remember Eric Garner a pett criminal killed while being arrested for selling loose cigarettes ? http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/st...icle-1.1871486

    How could you....there have been over 800 people killed by police since the nation debated if they were seeing a man killed on the street by police for a petty transaction.

    http://www.killedbypolice.net/kbp2014.html
    http://www.killedbypolice.net/

    And to soothe the apologists for brutality here are the police officers who have fallen so far this year:
    https://www.odmp.org/search/year

    So, is the percentage of police officers killed higher or lower than the percentage of private citizens killed?

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    • #3
      Just close your eyes and click on a story next to one of your victims.

      I just randomly picked on of the victims on your post:

      TALLAHASSEE — A man who had made previous threats against police set his house on fire Saturday and ambushed the first sheriff’s deputy who responded, fatally shooting the deputy and wounding another before he was killed by a police officer who lives nearby, a law enforcement official said.

      http://tbo.com/news/crime/deputy-gun...tout-20141122/



      Last edited by OldmanDan; 04-29-2015, 01:02 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
        Just close your eyes and click on a story next to one of your victims.

        I just randomly picked on of the victims on your post:

        TALLAHASSEE — A man who had made previous threats against police set his house on fire Saturday and ambushed the first sheriff’s deputy who responded, fatally shooting the deputy and wounding another before he was killed by a police officer who lives nearby, a law enforcement official said.

        http://tbo.com/news/crime/deputy-gun...tout-20141122/


        Exactly. I just don't get the point of those who just tout numbers without context. Well, maybe I do get the point but it's not one based in honesty or integrity.

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        • #5
          Congrats oldmandan, here's another:
          " A Gastonia woman was fatally shot Tuesday by a police officer responding to a domestic dispute.
          It was the second fatal shooting by Gastonia police in as many weeks.
          Officer LaDoniqua Neely fired the shot that killed Betty Diane Sexton, authorities said. Sexton, 43, was shot in the chest and pronounced dead at CaroMont Regional Medical Center.
          Officers were sent to a Union Road home at about 11:45 a.m. in reference to a domestic disturbance call, police said.
          It’s unclear whether Sexton was armed or if any one else was involved in the shooting. Details about the domestic disturbance incident were not available."

          http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...l#.VOPCDE33-iw

          and another
          "Kocher was walking on the roadway at around 9:35 p.m., just east of the Kaumakani Post Office, when he was struck by an eastbound Toyota Corolla, according to a county news release. A police officer responding to the scene, also heading east, then struck Kocher a second time."

          http://thegardenisland.com/news/loca...66231be8e.html

          They aren't all shootings, they aren't all unarmed, they aren't all unjustified but they are all incidents where police are responsible for killing someone in the U.S. in the course of their duties.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
            Remember Eric Garner a pett criminal killed while being arrested for selling loose cigarettes ? http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/st...icle-1.1871486

            How could you....there have been over 800 people killed by police since the nation debated if they were seeing a man killed on the street by police for a petty transaction.

            http://www.killedbypolice.net/kbp2014.html
            http://www.killedbypolice.net/

            And to soothe the apologists for brutality here are the police officers who have fallen so far this year:
            https://www.odmp.org/search/year
            Are you getting on your law enforcement soapbox again?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jotathought View Post

              Are you getting on your law enforcement soapbox again?
              You mean the one we should all be on until there are serious changes to law enforcement nationwide? Wanting those empowered to use force in our names to be better (and better protected) in their job is a pretty good goal.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                You mean the one we should all be on until there are serious changes to law enforcement nationwide? Wanting those empowered to use force in our names to be better (and better protected) in their job is a pretty good goal.
                Obviously I don't feel the same way .. no soapbox needed for me.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jotathought View Post

                  Obviously I don't feel the same way .. no soapbox needed for me.
                  So you are content to live in a country that has had more ciitizens die at the hands of law enforcement officers than soldiers that died at the hands of enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                    So you are content to live in a country that has had more ciitizens die at the hands of law enforcement officers than soldiers that died at the hands of enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan...
                    I have no issue with law enforcement using deadly force in accordance with local, state and federal laws. When law enforcement acts outside of those bounds, then I take issue, but trying to compare deaths between war and law enforcement is pointless. For example, the site you keep referencing, KilledByPolice.com, indicates there have been roughly 380 deaths to date between 1/1 and 4/30. Some of those are legitimate, some are accidents, others are abuse of power.

                    Just not seeing the argument you're trying to make. 380 deaths really isn't that much when compare to the population (less than 1/1000th of 1 percent) .. even when averaged for the entire year, that's only 1200 deaths total. There are more abortions than death by police annually.



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                    • #11
                      Let us know when you figure out how many of those where actually the result of criminal activity by police. That's the only number that supports your contention.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                        Congrats oldmandan, here's another:
                        " A Gastonia woman was fatally shot Tuesday by a police officer responding to a domestic dispute.
                        It was the second fatal shooting by Gastonia police in as many weeks.
                        Officer LaDoniqua Neely fired the shot that killed Betty Diane Sexton, authorities said. Sexton, 43, was shot in the chest and pronounced dead at CaroMont Regional Medical Center.
                        Officers were sent to a Union Road home at about 11:45 a.m. in reference to a domestic disturbance call, police said.
                        It’s unclear whether Sexton was armed or if any one else was involved in the shooting. Details about the domestic disturbance incident were not available."

                        http://www.charlotteobserver.com/new...l#.VOPCDE33-iw

                        and another
                        "Kocher was walking on the roadway at around 9:35 p.m., just east of the Kaumakani Post Office, when he was struck by an eastbound Toyota Corolla, according to a county news release. A police officer responding to the scene, also heading east, then struck Kocher a second time."

                        http://thegardenisland.com/news/loca...66231be8e.html

                        They aren't all shootings, they aren't all unarmed, they aren't all unjustified but they are all incidents where police are responsible for killing someone in the U.S. in the course of their duties.

                        Cops live in a different world than you and I.

                        Houston Cop Survives Assassination Attempt – Stabbed 14 Times


                        A Houston Community College police officer has survived an assassination attempt after being stabbed by her assailant 14 times. The officer was saved by civilians who stepped in and stopped the attacker. The attacker told investigators he did this to get back at police for their brutality. A spokesman from the family said it might be related to the Baltimore riots.
                        Read more: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015...#ixzz3YnD9nsAc

                        ‘I Thought About Shooting Every White Cop I See in the Head…Might Kill [at] Least 15 Tomorrow. I’m Plotting Now.’

                        The woman, identified as Ebony Monique Dickens, reportedly penned a Facebook post asserting that “all black ppl should rise up and shoot at every white cop in the nation starting now.” Police reportedly released the online post to WAGA-TV.
                        http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...w-im-plotting/
                        Last edited by OldmanDan; 04-30-2015, 05:18 AM.

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                        • #13
                          We all know the police do a dangerous job that's not being argued.
                          What is being argued is that the use of force by the police is often excessive and crosses the line and they need to be taken to account for this when it happens.

                          Are you arguing that the police should be allowed to use excessive force because criminals do?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Commodore View Post
                            Let us know when you figure out how many of those where actually the result of criminal activity by police. That's the only number that supports your contention.
                            Let's keep doing things te same way and expect different reslts is the mark of insanity. My contention is : there are too many killings.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post


                              Cops live in a different world than you and I.

                              Houston Cop Survives Assassination Attempt – Stabbed 14 Times




                              Read more: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015...#ixzz3YnD9nsAc

                              ‘I Thought About Shooting Every White Cop I See in the Head…Might Kill [at] Least 15 Tomorrow. I’m Plotting Now.’



                              http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...w-im-plotting/
                              No, cops live in the same world. That's why we employ them.

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