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Can You Imagine?

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  • Can You Imagine?

    The previously thread on this subject was closed due to me not adding a comment in addition to the link I am assuming. So lets revisit this. This time I'll put in some commentary like I should have done the first time.

    Ohio school shooter, wearing 'KILLER' T-shirt, sentenced to life in prison - U.S. News

    I want folks to read the article on this link and then comment on what they think. I can't even imagine being a family member in that court room and listening to this nut. It's because of all out nut cases like this is why I think the death penalty should be made available in every state. No reason a scum bag like this deserves to live. As far as I'm concerned he gave up his right to exist.

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    A fair trial and a first class hanging... all before opening time.

    Served this nation well for many years...

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    • #3
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      There's a reason they used to have public hangings, and it wasn't for tv...

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        Originally posted by buck84 View Post
        There's a reason they used to have public hangings, and it wasn't for tv...
        No USPOL to post on?

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        • #5
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          Now, I'm sure you know this, but I almost feel obligated to say it anyway. To show what happens when you break certain laws, their punishment was carried out publicly.

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            For the most part I have been a supporter of the death penalty. In this specific case, execute away. But as of recent I am starting to question the deterrent factor. Forgive the way I am putting this but there is nothing spectacular about how we carry out the death penalty. It is rarely applied as a sentence anyway, when it is applied it is rarely carried out, and when it is quietly carried out becoming a footnote in the media. If you were to combine that with the joke our criminal justice system has become there is plenty to discuss. 2012 had something like 42 (link provided) all lethal injecion assuming the list is accurate. Have a look at the far right column on the time delay from sentence to execution. Texas of course leads the list on execution numbers. Georgia at one point had a few to carry out, but did not for one reason or another. Once I recall it being the appeals pushed the date past the expiration of the drug on hand to be used in lethal injection. Since Georgia had trouble getting more of the drug, he is still alive today well past the date of the last appeal. So, given these stats and what is really happening with executions how can we possibly conclude deterrence means all that much here?

            Execution List 2012 | Death Penalty Information Center

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            • #7
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              DHS has a billion bullets. Let's go back to firing squads.

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              • #8
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                Forget bullets....hang him, hit him with a bus, have Bubba bunga-bunga him to death, whatever, but no shooting him....ammunition is too valuable right now.

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                • #9
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                  Hopefully he'll come to his senses and realize what a horrible thing he did and be racked with guilt the rest of his life.

                  I'm not holding my breath for that moment to come anytime soon though.

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                  • #10
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                    The death penalty could be a very good deterrent if used properly. Unfortunately it is not.

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                    • #11
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                      If one believes that life is sacred, given and created by the Creator, they will leave the judgment of death up to the Creator and not one of us.

                      I value human life from the fetus to the criminal. Anyways putting vile murderers to death is a much too easy way out of the crime. I want to see them spend the rest of their lives in prison, separated from the world as a punishment for taking a human life. This is much worse than death because all of us will die. Whether we commit evil deeds or not.

                      The death penalty is mostly based upon emotions aside from the fact that a death disallows that person from ever killing another innocent person.

                      A good and a sane society kills no one! Even their murderers. But neither does such a society agree to give a woman a right to kill her unborn. Violence begats violence.

                      Moral beings kill no one, not even the greatest criminal. A State that kills is no better than the murderer. There is no justification for the taking of a life given by our Creator. Only He has that right. I believe this to the depths of my being. It is not God's Will that we kill anyone, it is Our Will that does it. Much better to lock them up to protect society from their evils.

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                      • #12
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                        I believe that some people, literally have no conscience. I think the only thing he feels horrible about is he wasn't able to kill more than he did. Which in my own humble opinion, I don't really care about his feelings or that he feels bad or not. I would like to see satanic individuals like this eliminated, period. What good does it do to keep someone in prison forever. What if he kills someone in prison who may not be in prison for the rest of their life or is in there for a far less crime that doesn't have a long sentence. This kid is going to be in there forever, he has nothing to lose. Some people out there don't need to be reformed, they need to be removed.

                        Originally posted by Disillusioned_1 View Post
                        Hopefully he'll come to his senses and realize what a horrible thing he did and be racked with guilt the rest of his life.

                        I'm not holding my breath for that moment to come anytime soon though.

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                          Originally posted by buck84 View Post
                          I believe that some people, literally have no conscience.
                          It's called being a socio-path.

                          And they actually make up a certain percetage of the population, which is freaky.

                          Now not every socio-path is gonna commit murder or crime in general. They could be working as a car salesman who aggressively sells a big, expensive car to an elderly person that they have no use for.

                          It could be the guy who tells a girl he loves her just to sleep with her, and then never talks to her again.
                          It could be the girl who lies and says she is on birthcontrol to get pregnant and trap the guy.

                          Or a CEO who is brought into downsize a company and lays off tens of thousands of people who put their whole lives into the company.

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                            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                            The death penalty could be a very good deterrent if used properly. Unfortunately it is not.
                            Originally posted by Lutherf View Post
                            Forget bullets....hang him, hit him with a bus, have Bubba bunga-bunga him to death, whatever, but no shooting him....ammunition is too valuable right now.
                            Given his age he cannot be executed, under the Roper VS Simmons decision that came down from the Supreme Court that juvenile and anyone under 18 can no longer be executed:

                            Roper v. Simmons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                            Given age and multitude of multiple killings life without the possibility of parole was the most stringent sentence available, and given.

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                              Originally posted by Chloe View Post
                              Given his age he cannot be executed, under the Roper VS Simmons decision that came down from the Supreme Court that juvenile and anyone under 18 can no longer be executed:

                              Roper v. Simmons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                              Given age and multitude of multiple killings life without the possibility of parole was the most stringent sentence available, and given.
                              It doesn't have to be "Execute". Accidents happen too you know.

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