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Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

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  • Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

    Barack Obama has expanded our military efforts in Afganistan. Osama bin Laden was killed under his watch. . He even started a war of choice in Libya which resulted in terrorist supporter Qadaffi (or however it's spelled) being killed. He's kept extraordinary rendition, kept Guantanimo Bay open. He's even signed away a law that repeals our right to due process under the court of law with the passing of the NDAA. Soon he'll sign away our freedom of speech and expression online.

    He's supported all military programs that conservatives hailed Bush for. He's expanded the authority of the government in all the ways that Bush was hailed for. He's supported corporations in all the ways that Bush has. Is it because he didn't engage in nation building in Libya? He's enacted all the big government programs that Bush enacted but conservatives seem to hate Obama.

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    Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

    I'll give the president his due on the military front. I don't want to be a war mongering chicken hawk, because I have never served in the military, but I would be inclined to think that we should not disgrace the lives of the men and women who fought and died for their country by being stupid either. So I do applaud Obama's military efforts where it is sensible. My problems with the president are failed campaign promises, which are typical of every politician in every race, and using businesses as scapegoats to cover congress' ass on bad policies. Bad policies are with every president, however this president goes out of his way to blame everybody except the group responsible. You can only cry wolf so many times before people stop believing theres a wolf and start looking at you.

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      Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

      It does go both ways, to be honest. Obama isn't a whole lot different from Bush in a lot of ways, but conservatives as well as liberals, will fight you tooth and nail on this claim. In other words, you could just as equally ask, "Why Aren't Liberals Less Supportive Of Obama?"

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        Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

        Originally posted by Speakeasy View Post
        In other words, you could just as equally ask, "Why Aren't Liberals Less Supportive Of Obama?"
        Obama is engaging in liberal policies so it makes sense that they support him. Expanding government power is a liberal policy. A good question would be "why weren't liberals more supportive of Bush"? Of course since is no longer relevant it's a moot point. Conservatives rallied behind Bush's liberal policies and now that Obama is doing the exact same thing they aren't.

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          Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

          Originally posted by AjaxPress View Post
          Barack Obama has expanded our military efforts in Afganistan. Osama bin Laden was killed under his watch. . He even started a war of choice in Libya which resulted in terrorist supporter Qadaffi (or however it's spelled) being killed. He's kept extraordinary rendition, kept Guantanimo Bay open. He's even signed away a law that repeals our right to due process under the court of law with the passing of the NDAA. Soon he'll sign away our freedom of speech and expression online.

          He's supported all military programs that conservatives hailed Bush for. He's expanded the authority of the government in all the ways that Bush was hailed for. He's supported corporations in all the ways that Bush has. Is it because he didn't engage in nation building in Libya? He's enacted all the big government programs that Bush enacted but conservatives seem to hate Obama.
          He has done stuff I agree with and other stuff I disagree with. He has just done far more stuff that I disagree with and is an awful leader in general.

          I think a better question is why you continue to use those quotes from Larry King and Sen. McCain as a signature after it has been pointed out to you that they're being taken out of context and the actual meaning distorted.

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            Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

            Originally posted by AjaxPress View Post
            Barack Obama has expanded our military efforts in Afganistan. Osama bin Laden was killed under his watch. . He even started a war of choice in Libya which resulted in terrorist supporter Qadaffi (or however it's spelled) being killed. He's kept extraordinary rendition, kept Guantanimo Bay open. He's even signed away a law that repeals our right to due process under the court of law with the passing of the NDAA. Soon he'll sign away our freedom of speech and expression online.

            He's supported all military programs that conservatives hailed Bush for. He's expanded the authority of the government in all the ways that Bush was hailed for. He's supported corporations in all the ways that Bush has. Is it because he didn't engage in nation building in Libya? He's enacted all the big government programs that Bush enacted but conservatives seem to hate Obama.
            For the shear, naked, raw, unmitigated, HYPOCRISY exhibited by Obama and his worthless, slobbering minions.

            Bush told the nation that he would hunt Al-Qaeda down and kill it.

            Thousands on the left marched and vilified Bush as a war criminal at every turn.

            Obama too condemned Bush’s policies… then went right on carrying them out… right down to the pull out of Iraq, right on the Bush set timeline, and against his own campaign set time table.

            And you cheer him for it… and then whine “why can’t you guys on the right cheer Obama too!?!”

            Because he is a worthless, lying piece of shit, that lied to you to get your support and then you applaud ‘my God, isn’t Obama great!?!’

            Obama is a liar. Those that follow him are at best foolish.

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              Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

              Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
              ahoy Speakeasy,

              but ye do agree with the OP's premise, aye?

              - MeadHallPirate
              Sure, I do. The vast majority of complaints against Obama from conservatives have shown to be absolutely not true, yet they either continue to repeat them or they move onto much more trivial reasons to hate on him. I don't blame them, it's just part of the political "game", just like cheering for a sports team.

              His soft on terrorism! Nope.
              He's anti-military! Nope.
              He's anti-corporation! Nope.
              He's anti-gun! Nope.
              He's Muslim! Nope.
              He's a communist! Nope.
              He's soft on immigration! Nope.
              He's racist! Nope.
              He's not eligible to be President! Nope.
              He's spending $200 million a day to visit India! Nope.
              He...takes too many vacations! Nope.
              His...wife...is ugly...

              Originally posted by AjaxPress View Post
              Obama is engaging in liberal policies so it makes sense that they support him. Expanding government power is a liberal policy.
              Well, perhaps that's your reason why conservatives aren't supportive of him.
              A good question would be "why weren't liberals more supportive of Bush"? Of course since is no longer relevant it's a moot point. Conservatives rallied behind Bush's liberal policies and now that Obama is doing the exact same thing they aren't.
              Well, yea, I've said it a billion times now, you can't be a partisan without being a hypocrite.

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                Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                Originally posted by tsquare View Post

                Bush told the nation that he would hunt Al-Qaeda down and kill it.
                Which he didn't do. Obama made arrangements to kill bin Laden. Bush let him go free.

                Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                Thousands on the left marched and vilified Bush as a war criminal at every turn.
                That happened after we invaded Iraq under false claims. Hyperbole much?


                Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                And you cheer him for it… and then whine “why can’t you guys on the right cheer Obama too!?!”

                Because he is a worthless, lying piece of shit, that lied to you to get your support and then you applaud ‘my God, isn’t Obama great!?!’
                I've been rather indifferent to Obama after his second year. I certainly didn't cheer him ever. If you're going to cite personal comments I've made you can at least try for accuracy.

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                  Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                  It is true that Bush never lied about being a fool and an idiot. In fact, he made it quite clear from the outset and people still reelected him after proving it.

                  OTOH Obama did give the somewhat false impression that he wasn't nearly as conservative as he has turned out to be. What a liar. No wonder so many conservatives hate him for being so much like them. He has shown he isn't a liberal, much less a socialist, as so many continue to hypocritically claim.
                  Last edited by Formaldehyde; 12-20-2011, 12:44 PM.

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                    Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                    For the shear, naked, raw, unmitigated, HYPOCRISY exhibited by Obama and his worthless, slobbering minions.

                    Bush told the nation that he would hunt Al-Qaeda down and kill it.

                    Thousands on the left marched and vilified Bush as a war criminal at every turn.
                    The marches were almost entirely aimed at the Iraq war, the Afghanistan war was rarely criticized by anyone. You're conflating two issues here.

                    Obama too condemned Bush’s policies… then went right on carrying them out… right down to the pull out of Iraq, right on the Bush set timeline, and against his own campaign set time table.
                    So, you should support him, right?
                    And you cheer him for it… and then whine “why can’t you guys on the right cheer Obama too!?!”

                    Because he is a worthless, lying piece of shit, that lied to you to get your support and then you applaud ‘my God, isn’t Obama great!?!’

                    Obama is a liar. Those that follow him are at best foolish.
                    Oh, so you don't support him, because even though he did what you thought was the right thing to do, he lied to liberals. Haha, okay.

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                      Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                      Originally posted by AjaxPress View Post
                      Hyperbole much?
                      G.I.T.M.O.

                      Obama's entire existence is hyperbole, nothing more.

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                        Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                        To see the truth in my position, one need only look at the responses it received.

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                          Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                          Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                          To see the truth in my position, one need only look at the responses it received.
                          You're position is essentially "words speak louder than actions".

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                            Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                            Originally posted by Speakeasy View Post
                            You're position is essentially "words speak louder than actions".
                            Maybe... if you leave out the whole HYPOCRISY thing...

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                              Re: Why Aren't Conservatives More Supportive Of Obama?

                              Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                              Maybe... if you leave out the whole HYPOCRISY thing...
                              If you dislike hypocrites, you shouldn't like anyone in politics, though that isn't the case. You just don't like Obama because he's a democrat and you're a republican. That's it. It's okay to admit that, tsquare. It may be intellectually vapid, but at least it makes more sense than saying "Even though Obama has done a lot of things I agree with, I hate him because he lied to his foolish, slobbering minions".

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