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Too Freakin' stupid (video of Marines acting badly)

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    U.S. Marines Urinating On Taliban Dead Bodies In AFG - YouTube

    Marine snipers make a video of them urinating in dead Taliban, and post it on the Internet.

    Too freakin stupid...

  • #2
    Re: Too Freakin' stupid

    Yep. Stupid to do it, 10x more stupid to film it and 100x more stupid to post it. Such action is actually a manifestation of PTSD but that really doesn't absolve anyone of anything.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by lutherf View Post
      Yep. Stupid to do it, 10x more stupid to film it and 100x more stupid to post it. Such action is actually a manifestation of PTSD but that really doesn't absolve anyone of anything.
      Agreed. And MHP's comment is well considered too. But you have to admit, this stuff is a lot more likely to happen when we have our troops traipsing through everyone else's flower gardens.

      Bring 'em home.

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      • #4
        Re: Too Freakin' stupid

        Go ahead and piss on them, but post it on the internet??!!

        Whatever happened to "what happens on the battlefield stays on the battlefield".

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Brexx View Post
          Go ahead and piss on them, but post it on the internet??!!

          Whatever happened to "what happens on the battlefield stays on the battlefield".
          Portable digital devices happened. Cellular communication for damned near everybody happened. "Viral" videos happened. And all of that capability in a device which fits in the palm of your hand happened.

          Stupid is eternal but the ability to let everyone know just how stupid you are has reached the masses even in the farthest corners of the world.

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          • #6
            Re: Too Freakin' stupid

            Originally posted by goober View Post
            U.S. Marines Urinating On Taliban Dead Bodies In AFG - YouTube

            Marine snipers make a video of them urinating in dead Taliban, and post it on the Internet.

            Too freakin stupid...
            Their behavior was reprehensible and inexcusable but I wish the media would exercise some restraint in these cases.

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            • #7
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              This kind of thing happens in every war and as bad behavior goes this is really pretty mild. You can't hurt someone when they're dead. It's not even in the same ballpark as the cold blooded torture carried out on living people by the CIA.

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              • #8
                Re: Too Freakin' stupid

                To do that makes them and america look bad. And it is troublesome that the world will look at this and then generalize the actions of a very few to represent americans. Yet this happens all of the time, even in political bickering. Generalization.

                I will never defend these actions, even as much as I dislike the Taliban and what they represent. I am intelligent to know that these sorts of things have happened in every war we have been in, along with everyone else in the world. But in past times, this sort of incident remained only in the memory of those that partiscipated or from other observers.

                And only for this reason am I not upset, but rather annoyed at these marines stupidity. I mean damn, they even filmed it and one of them must have uploaded it to the net. They should be discharged for stupidity. Punishment for the act I am ambivalent on. If its currently not a military crime to have intercourse with animals, which is a question of personal morality, this seems milder in comparison. Afterall the victims had just suffered the worst humilation by being killed by the infidels.

                I once watched a video on the net way back when I first got a pc. It was a reporter, Jewish I think, getting executed by hooded terrorists, who used what looked like a hunting knife to literally saw his head from his body. So I wouldn't worry too much about upsetting the other muslims. It's hard to top that torturous sort of death. Pissing on someone you just killed just seems pale in comparison.

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                • #9
                  Re: Too Freakin' stupid

                  Originally posted by Wagner View Post
                  Their behavior was reprehensible and inexcusable
                  Which behavior? The killing or the pissing?

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
                    ahoy Timj219,

                    in a way, 'tis worse matey.

                    at least torture can be a "means to an end" kinda animal activity that our government engaged in, brutal and reprehensable though it be.

                    the passin' 'o human waste on yer victims...


                    ...thats just barbaric. it serves no "purpose" demeans us in the eyes 'o our enemies (if that were possible) and them who we seek to win as allies. these corpses are someone's son...someone's husband...someone's brother. i can't imagine how many murderous enemies them soldiers made by doin' this. as Lutherf said, to do this in this day 'n age was beyond stupid.

                    - MeadHallPirate
                    Of course it's barbaric. War as experienced by the people who kill and are killed is always barbaric. If we can train our fighters not to commit barbarous acts against innocent civilians I think that's the best we can reasonably expect. I have no doubt this incident will be exploited. That's unfortunate. But as a civilian I can't condemn the marines for pissing on dead bodies.
                    And I still believe the torture is worse by magnitudes. There's no excuse of battle stress and no personal animus as felt by the marines who night have been killed by those dead taliban if they hadn't killed them. It's despicable and evil behavior inflicted on imprisoned living people - not corpses - and those who do it belong in jail or worse. The marines just deserve to be sent home.

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                    • #11
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                      What a complete showing of total stupidity that will only make matters worse for everyone else over there right now. That is all it takes though, a few morons to ensure the rest of the world thinks all the military acts with such disgrace.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
                        ahoy Lutherf,

                        no, it doesn't...'tis unforgivable, what they're doin'.

                        still, it shouldn't impugn the honor 'o the many men and women who serve our nation, and i hope it doesn't.

                        - MeadHallPirate
                        I remember the incidents at Abu Graibh being heavily discussed here and unfortunately, we had some assholes who condemned the entire military for the acts of a few and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them popped in on this discussion. BTW, I'm all for these Marines receiving harsh penalties for their acts of stupidity but it in no way speaks of the character of the majority of our guys.

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                          Originally posted by timj219 View Post
                          But as a civilian I can't condemn the marines for pissing on dead bodies.
                          I just condemn the shear stupidity of publicising the event -- the Taliban can go fuck themselves dead or alive.

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                          • #14
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                            Entertaining how morally corrupted the military elite is.

                            Invading third world countries for profit, obvious lies or for god having the countries leader instructed to do so? OK.
                            Installing puppet regimes? No problem.
                            Fueling insurcencies? Sure thing.
                            Disrupting infrastructure, causing economic hardship? Absolutely.
                            Butcher civilians, drop white phosphor on them, slay them during their weddings? You got it, dude.
                            Torture prisoners, even to death, or detain them until they rot? Yes, we can!
                            Throwing hand grenades into rooms full of children? Standard military procedure, according to US courts.

                            But when it actually comes to ethics about dead people, the jigg is up. Dead people? Serious business, dude. Better treat them with respect. SInce all the army procudes is corpses, this gotta be some quality management mechanism or something.

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                            • #15
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                              Remember the outrage when the US military was not treating its own dead with proper respect at the Dover Morgue?

                              In Islamic countries the respectful treatment of the dead is much more culturally important than it is in western countries. For example the ANA (Afghan National Army) has as its priority for field evacuation of the dead first so that the bodies can be buried in accordance with Islamic tradition. The dead are removed from the field of battle before the wounded.

                              Can you understand the impact of having foreign troops, purposefully desecrating the dead?

                              This is about the best recruitment tool that the Taliban could ask for, compliments of a small handful of brain dead marines with video cameras and web access. This deserves some jail time and at the very least a dishonourable discharge so that other brain dead troops don’t think that it’s funny and try it again.

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