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  • Imminent war with Russia..nuclear?

    http://yournewswire.com/top-us-comma...kes-at-russia/

    Ok, why would Russia be running this story? What do they have to gain if its a tale told by a madman?

    According to Russian news sources nuclear war was averted by the heroics of Capt. Heather E. Cole, who refused to communicate the launch authorization to U.S nuclear forces.
    Apparently the U.S was about to launch a limited nuclear strike on the Russian Federation on Monday, with a coordinated “surprise” attack by the U.K .
    It is stated that Captain Cole’s actions were made possible by the security measures put in place by former defense chief, Chuck Hagel prior to his resignation. She is reportedly under arrest and has been relieved of her command
    - See more at: http://yournewswire.com/top-us-comma....WlSNgLo0.dpuf
    The Navy Times has a short blurb on this, mentioning "cultural" reasons as a reason to fire her. WTF? Cultural reasons?

    Now this does seem outlandish, but what would be the reason Russia would be saying this? And there is no way to tell if the Capt. is in lockdown in Ca. Something is fishy, no?


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    Registrant Name: Sean Adl-Tabatabai
    Registrant Organization: The People's Voice, Inc.
    Registrant Street: 4169 Laredo Lane
    Registrant Street: Unit B
    Registrant City: Simi Valley
    Registrant State/Province: California
    Registrant Postal Code: 93063

    And here is the web site of their corporate owner


    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/

    You tell me if you believe anything they say.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
      Registrant Name: Sean Adl-Tabatabai
      Registrant Organization: The People's Voice, Inc.
      Registrant Street: 4169 Laredo Lane
      Registrant Street: Unit B
      Registrant City: Simi Valley
      Registrant State/Province: California
      Registrant Postal Code: 93063

      And here is the web site of their corporate owner


      http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/

      You tell me if you believe anything they say.
      I went to your link and found this...

      One-fourth of entire global prison population is in the United States. Apple has more money than U.S. Treasury. If you have no debt and 10 dollars you are wealthier than 25 percent of all Americans. In more than half of U.S. states, highest paid public employee in the state is a football coach. Average supermarket in United States wastes about 3,000 pounds of food each year. Approximately 20 percent of the garbage that goes into our landfills is food

      And I think those are facts. So, what is wrong with facts oldman? Perhaps you listen to FOX so much that you have lost the ability to see a fact?

      But I question the OP, it's validity. Of course it would be nice to see a fact filled story on why the capt. was fired, and if indeed she is in jail, for "cultural" offenses.

      Also thanks for the link, as I saw some real reporting, investigative reporting there, which you will not see in MSM, including FOX. These networks only hire news actors, and no longer do investigative reporting when it comes to the gov't, unless it can be used politically.

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      • #4
        It's complete bullshit. If there was an arrest for a secret attack that wasnt carried out by the actions of one person , how would anyone find out about the arrest or the real reason for the arrest? Anyone willing to kill millions of Russians would have no problem having a wayward member of the militray fall out of a plane or die in a traffic accident.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

          I went to your link and found this...




          And I think those are facts. So, what is wrong with facts oldman? Perhaps you listen to FOX so much that you have lost the ability to see a fact?

          But I question the OP, it's validity. Of course it would be nice to see a fact filled story on why the capt. was fired, and if indeed she is in jail, for "cultural" offenses.

          Also thanks for the link, as I saw some real reporting, investigative reporting there, which you will not see in MSM, including FOX. These networks only hire news actors, and no longer do investigative reporting when it comes to the gov't, unless it can be used politically.

          You saw tabloid tripe you choose to believe because it reinforces your preconceived notions.

          I have more money than the U.S. Treasury. The U.S. Treasury is $18 trillion in the hole.

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          • #6
            If Obama was unwilling to confront Putin militarily at any point since the the Euromadian protests began, why would he just nuke them out of the blue?

            And if he was willing to nuke them out of the blue, why, once the sabotage was uncovered and removed, would he not just proceed? It's not like there would be any evidence remaining after the fact with which to bring the true offender to justice.

            The Russians are feeling their oats. They and the Chinese think they can team up and overthrow the trans-Atlantic world and become the most dominate power on Earth. Which, if it where simply a matter of nationalistic brinkmanship, wouldn't matter so much, but since it would plunge the world either under Russian or Chinese rule or complete anarchy, it would probably be the greatest setback for the human race since the Plague. And a diffuse blend of socialists, nationalists, anarchists, environmentalists, racists, anti-Semites, and other general conspiracy theorists who have a grievance with anyone or anything they associate with Western governments, policies, economics or culture are willing to put Putin on a pedestal in order to stick it to "the man". Basically, they will back anything that opposes actual human progress, even in the name of "progress", because someone "evil" is going to prosper because of it. Putin knows this and plays these groups off one another, supporting every ridiculous accusation because they know that rational people are taken aback and get defensive about such things, and in so doing cede control of the conversation to the bombthrower. I wouldn't be surprised if this particular story was the product of a FSB Junior Novelist Club contest, where the winner gets their plot used in a European Union Times article.

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            • #7
              The Russians and Chinese aren't teaming up but they do both know the strength of the man in the oval office.

              If he isn't willing to place a few soldiers in the Ukraine as human targets/speed speedbumps heks not launching a preemptive nuke strike with the assitance of the U.K. and keeping it secret except of course from tinfoil hat land

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              • #8
                I've got more chance of being instantly made surprise new President of the USA next week (I'd be great by the way and I wouldn't send the entire armed forces on a 3 month training exercise in the UK no way at all. I also wouldn't order 50,000 tons of British cheese just in case of a sudden cheese shortage) than of the UK launching a surprise nuclear strike against Russia.

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                • #9
                  Tinfoil hat fodder, with hardly any doubt. But I can see the people who deeply believe Obama will come up with a reason to impose martial law, and become our dictator in the process, believing this story.

                  The only good thing about me starting this thread is that oldmandan gave me a link to a news site that does have facts, which you will not see the media really talking about or covering. You know, a more objective look at my nation, and her sins, and the stupidity of our rulers. But of course with all news outlets these days, you need a sturdy sifter, to sift the facts from the propaganda. For you will give that sifter much use. So this means it isn't made in china like all other consumer goods. . LOL

                  And we best not get into a war with an enemy with a real army and modern technology. We have an Achilles heel, because several of essential defense contractors like United Technologies(used to be one of their factories here where I live) have all offshored.

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                  • #10
                    I've often wonder what the UK would do in the event of another world war as we have some aircraft manufacturing as all the wings for airbuses are made in Wales and we have Eurofighter manufacturing and a fair bit of the F-35 but it's been well reported that we don't have a tank manufacturing facility.

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                    • #11
                      I think the general consensus is that if deterrence doesn't work we simply won't get the chance to rebuild for a generation or more, if ever. We have one dry dock capable of supporting carriers. We have one tank plant. We haven't done real civil defense since the 70's, because we got spoiled and decided trying to ensure the survival of the human race in the face of some sort of calamity was just too hard.

                      The same attitude has decided we also can't survive a few degree fluctuation in the climate, so we need to give someone all our money and control over our lives.
                      Last edited by Commodore; 03-26-2015, 06:46 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                        I've often wonder what the UK would do in the event of another world war as we have some aircraft manufacturing as all the wings for airbuses are made in Wales and we have Eurofighter manufacturing and a fair bit of the F-35 but it's been well reported that we don't have a tank manufacturing facility.

                        Depend on the U.S. again.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post


                          Depend on the U.S. again.
                          Oh really like we did in the Battle of Britain which you guys strangely missed. There were more Polish pilots than US pilots during this segment of the war.

                          I was also talking about our ability to manufacture stuff.
                          I guess you think the US somehow won WW2 alone even though Russia had by far the most casualties and had the most fierce battles.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Commodore View Post
                            I think the general consensus is that if deterrence doesn't work we simply won't get the chance to rebuild for a generation or more, if ever. We have one dry dock capable of supporting carriers. We have one tank plant. We haven't done real civil defense since the 70's, because we got spoiled and decided trying to ensure the survival of the human race in the face of some sort of calamity was just too hard.

                            The same attitude has decided we also can't survive a few degree fluctuation in the climate, so we need to give someone all our money and control over our lives.
                            I don't think it will be all that. If there is an honest to God need we would be converting so much manufacturing to wartime operations it wouldn't be an issue. Think about how we converted everything for WWII. It didn't take a generation + to get that going.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post

                              Oh really like we did in the Battle of Britain which you guys strangely missed. There were more Polish pilots than US pilots during this segment of the war.

                              I was also talking about our ability to manufacture stuff.
                              I guess you think the US somehow won WW2 alone even though Russia had by far the most casualties and had the most fierce battles.

                              Depend on Russia to have your back then.

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