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The only two solutions to Jihad which have ever worked successfully

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  • The only two solutions to Jihad which have ever worked successfully

    The only two solutions to Jihad which have ever worked successfully have been complete military annihilation or keeping Muslim populations out altogether.

    History will show that Islamic aggression was stopped in Eastern Europe and in Spain (if not also elsewhere) with military force.

    We see, also, that Japan has remained free of Islamic Jihad by prohibiting Islam (if not all Muslims) on their island nation.

    Those are the only two answers.

    Take your pick.

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    The most intelligent manner in which to address radical islam in the middle east is to withdraw, and tell the nations of that area it is their problem to solve, if they want it solved. So, we get the hell out, leave the region, and do not in any manner direct or indirect, supply any weapons or help to any of the radical or insurgent groups.

    Then, if we allow muslims to immigrate here, if they cannot have their background checked out, they are turned away from the get go. If they do check out, they can come if they have a skill or education that we need, like doctors, etc. Some marketable skill so they will not be a drag on a society already floundering in our own poverty which costs money to the taxpayers and borrowing from out grandkids. But refugees from the middle east should have to be absorbed by other muslim nations, and not flood into Europe or anywhere else. But if they do, it is temporary and each one will be sent back, on their dime.

    But solving these problems is obviously not the intent of our rulers. Such problems, if not solved, we can extract ourselves from it. And then it gets solved in a different way . Or, its the problem of the middle east, since they have to live in it. Let them solve their own problems. Even if we helped to create them. Apparently all our rulers know how to do is to make things far worse than we found them.

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    • #3
      The Muslim exansion into Europe was checked by distace, logistics, and infigthing within Islam.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
        The Muslim exansion into Europe was checked by distace, logistics, and infigthing within Islam.
        "Checked?"

        That usually means, STOPPED.

        And has it actually stopped???

        Finally, the Jihadist refugees which remain in Europe will conduct Jihad until they dominate all non Muslims and impose Sharia.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
          The most intelligent manner in which to address radical islam in the middle east is to withdraw, and tell the nations of that area it is their problem to solve, if they want it solved. So, we get the hell out, leave the region, and do not in any manner direct or indirect, supply any weapons or help to any of the radical or insurgent groups.

          Then, if we allow muslims to immigrate here, if they cannot have their background checked out, they are turned away from the get go. If they do check out, they can come if they have a skill or education that we need, like doctors, etc. Some marketable skill so they will not be a drag on a society already floundering in our own poverty which costs money to the taxpayers and borrowing from out grandkids. But refugees from the middle east should have to be absorbed by other muslim nations, and not flood into Europe or anywhere else. But if they do, it is temporary and each one will be sent back, on their dime.

          But solving these problems is obviously not the intent of our rulers. Such problems, if not solved, we can extract ourselves from it. And then it gets solved in a different way . Or, its the problem of the middle east, since they have to live in it. Let them solve their own problems. Even if we helped to create them. Apparently all our rulers know how to do is to make things far worse than we found them.
          Why do we automatically start from the point of view that these refugees, Muslim or not, have any RIGHT to be here? Or that we have an obligation to take them in?

          Of course they have no such right nor do we have such an obligation.

          And furthermore, if we could re-do our experience with African Americans wouldn't we do SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY to avoid sociological economic and crime problems associated with African Americans?

          Sure we would.

          But we CAN'T.

          But we CAN design Islam to exist better within our structure of society than Islam exists any where else.

          No more than Stage Two Muslim population levels in America and we might completely avoid any of the usual Islamist bullshit.

          We could live safely and so could the Muslims.

          At least those few we allowed to remain.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by marsden View Post

            "Checked?"

            That usually means, STOPPED.

            And has it actually stopped???

            Finally, the Jihadist refugees which remain in Europe will conduct Jihad until they dominate all non Muslims and impose Sharia.
            Our first international war was with Islamic pirates in the 19th century, as they continued to menace Europe long after the invasions of the 8th/9th centuries and the 16th century. I do think the fear of jihadists among refugees created by our haphazard foreign policies is overblown for now, but large isolated foreign populations allowed to fester resentment and hate could be prime territory for far more jihadists in the future. One could certainly argue the problems of distance in the modern world has shrunk, certainly so when a flood of millions can be exploited.

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            • #7
              FBI - Federal Bureau of Imbeciles

              Are we surprised here ?

              We shouldn't be.

              Between our incompetents and Islam, we're in trouble... as we see here.

              What is so damn strange - to me at least - is how, after so many Islamic terrorist attacks on the U.S. then after 9-11..

              ... we welcomed these people from this wonderful religion into America in greater numbers than I've ever seen.

              Suicidal tendencies isn't it ?


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              The accused killer told police he "stabbed the victims because of his Muslim faith," watched videos of "Muslim jihadists" on his cellphone, and "was reading the Quran from his phone just prior to the attack to give him courage to carry out his intentions."

              Perhaps he read the Sword Verses for inspiration? Fort Hood jihadist Nidal Hasan quoted from them in his presentation to classmates and superiors at Walter Reed Medical Center: "I have been commanded to fight the people until they testify that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah."

              Or maybe it was Surah 9:5: "Fight and slay the idolaters wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush."


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              There will be no CNN town halls or student walkouts over the lost life and preventable tragedy, because there are no guns to blame. Only dropped balls.

              As the exploiters of crisis know full well, bureaucratic screw-ups don't make good fodder for partisan fundraisers and hipster T-shirts.

              According to a probable cause affidavit filed by the Palm Beach County police, 17-year-old Corey Johnson bought a knife last Sunday and brought it with him to a sleepover at longtime friend Kyle Bancroft's house. At 4 a.m., he decided to kill Kyle's mother, Elaine, his brother, Dane, and Dane's friend, Jovanni Sierra Brand.

              Johnson repeatedly stabbed Jovanni in his bed and slit his throat. Then he attempted to murder Elaine as she approached the boys' bedrooms in response to Jio's last gasps. Dane rescued his mom and sustained 32 stab wounds. Both were hospitalized and survived. Jio was buried last Friday -- less than a week after celebrating his 13th birthday at a pizza party attended by Johnson.


              Johnson's brutal attack was no bolt out of the blue, no unexpected incidence of sudden jihad syndrome. Local school officials and police in Palm Beach County, along with federal and international law enforcement authorities, had encountered more red flags in their years of dealing with Johnson than at a Communist May Day parade in Havana.

              In middle school, Johnson had reportedly stalked a student and sexually harassed her. She told school police. Nothing happened. He dabbled in white supremacy, anti-Semitism and gay-bashing, and then immersed himself in radical Islam -- rising at 5 a.m. daily to pray and revere the Syrian flag. Johnson's online jihad agitation, physical abuse and addiction to ISIS beheading videos prompted his sister in 2016 to confide in a school therapist, who contacted the local sheriff's office.

              Johnson's mom, the sister told school officials, was in denial. The sister so feared for her life she slept with a knife under her bed.

              Law enforcement officers at the Jupiter Police Department and Palm Beach County Sheriff's office convened at Johnson's high school last January to investigate the self-radicalized teen's contact with ISIS as he sought to join the terror group. The FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force became involved after European intelligence counterparts told them Johnson had used Instagram to issue security threats to a Catholic high school in England. The threats "were so severe in nature," local officials discovered, "that up to 100 students were removed from the school fearing some kind of attack."

              One of the messages threatened: "By Allah, we will kill every single Infidel student at this school." Johnson told FBI agents he "was supportive of known terrorist Anwar al Awlaki" -- the spiritual patron of lone-wolf jihadists.

              The FBI's plan of action? Inaction. The agency watched and waited and wanly admonished Johnson to knock it off because authorities "believed a redirection approach would be the most beneficial regarding his conduct."

              "Redirection" is akin to the alternative social justice strategies school officials and police used in Parkland, Florida, before 17 innocent students and teachers died at the hands of teen shooter who was a walking neon sign for a mental health catastrophe.

              No referrals, no charges, no records, no problems.

              Except for the fact that Johnson ignored the FBI and continued his Islamic instigation online. After nearly a year of foot-dragging, the FBI gathered enough evidence to bring federal charges against Johnson for his social media terror threats. According to records released by the Jupiter Police Department, local officials were told the charges would be brought in the summer of 2017. But on the early morning of the jihad stabbings at Palm Beach Gardens last week, the FBI and U.S. Attorney's Office had yet to take action on a known radicalized threat who had menaced his family, his schoolmates and innocents abroad.

              It's a familiar narrative for the FBI -- from the Boston Marathon bombers to the Orlando nightclub shooter to the Fort Lauderdale airport jihadist to the San Bernardino terrorists. Family members, teachers, neighbors and co-workers saw something and said something. Investigators investigated. But nobody did nuttin' till it was too bloody late.

              Nothing to see here; move along.



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