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  • Yemen Bombing

    After being fired on days ago US forces havefired aatrebelheld postions in Yemen, no one is entirely sure which factions fired on US vessels sand which we fired on...likely Iranian backed rebels. Gee,goodthig we've been sending money to Iran and are lettting them police themselves in the recent nuclear deal.

    http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497795...&f=1003%2C1004

  • #2
    And the US are not just covertly backing Saudi-Arabias military "intervention" in Yemen. The same Saudis that have just committed one of the deadliest airstrikes of many airstrikes on the civilian population of the country. Not condoning violence, but anti-Saudi Yemenis , shiite or not, (since that is not fully clear) viewing US military off their coast as letigimate targets should come as no surprise :

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neral-in-yemen

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    • #3
      And when people asked why the Yemeni Civil War mattered to us, they where told that Iranian puppets could threaten shipping in the Mandeb Strait with anti-ship missiles. We where scoffed at.

      Well, shipping in the Mandeb Strait is threatened with Iranian anti-ship missiles.

      Your humble pie is ready...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Voland View Post
        And the US are not just covertly backing Saudi-Arabias military "intervention" in Yemen. The same Saudis that have just committed one of the deadliest airstrikes of many airstrikes on the civilian population of the country. Not condoning violence, but anti-Saudi Yemenis , shiite or not, (since that is not fully clear) viewing US military off their coast as legitimate targets should come as no surprise :

        https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...neral-in-yemen
        As far as the Saudis or Iranians, Sunni's or Shia, Arabs or Persians are concerned, this not mere geopolitics, this is about survival. At the end of this, one side lives, and the other dies. So, we really shouldn't be surprised when one side or the other is not terribly concerned about collateral damage. That's what happens when proxies are used.

        The only question that remains to be answered is whether these strings are being pulled by Tehran alone ...or Moscow.
        Last edited by Commodore; 10-14-2016, 01:41 PM.

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        • #5
          Time to declare war or get the hell out.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
            Time to declare war or get the hell out.
            And the sane choice is, to get the hell out. Allow the Saudis and Iran to fight their own battles for who is top dog in the middle east. At least if Iran is top dog, we probably will not have to worry about Shiites attacking America and Europe the way the sunnis are doing. Let these sects fight it out, and us try to reach an agreement with Russia for both of us to stay out of it. Thereby we do not create new enemies. Of course we will always involve ourselves for one primary reason. Our robber baron elites, including the Bush family have financial ties with the Saudis, going back to George Herbert Walker. We are in the middle east, and have invaded it, deposed their rulers, of secular gov'ts, in the interests of our robber barons who have ties to the robber barons in the UK and Europe. Does anyone really think this has a damned thing to do with national security, or the interests of the American people? LOL It has never been about security or the interests of the People.

            Russia is under threat of terror attacks, not from the Shiites, but the sunnis, just as we are. The sunnis are the greatest problem, not the Shiites. The problem with Iran is a problem created by the contention between Israel and iran, for Iran fears the nukes of Israel. Which is the only reason they might ever want their own nukes to hold off Israel. Unlike the sunnis, the Shiites in Iran have never been aggressive and trying to take and conquer other states in the middle east. Iran needs to feel secure, and we, the sunnis, nor Israel will give them that. And what does this historically go back to? Perhaps a western puppet brutal shah that we had something to do with putting him in place? We cannot take sticks and stir up a pile of shit and not expect to get some on us. To blame the pile of crap for us getting it on us is irresponsible and stupid. Stop stirring the shit, quite the novel idea. But there is no profit for our robber barons in that, is there?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
              And the sane choice is, to get the hell out. Allow the Saudis and Iran to fight their own battles for who is top dog in the middle east.
              How much Strontium-90 are you willing to tolerate in your milk?

              Anyway, what happens when you blow up the radars, but not the missiles?

              They fire more missiles...

              U.S. warship targeted in failed missile attack from Yemen: official

              A U.S. Navy destroyer was targeted on Saturday in a failed missile attack from territory in Yemen controlled by Iran-aligned Houthi rebels, the third such incident in the past week, a U.S. defense official said.

              Multiple missiles were fired at the USS Mason sailing in international waters in the Red Sea but the warship took countermeasures to defend itself and was not hit, the official said, citing initial information.
              7 1/2 years of halfassery, and they have still learned nothing.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Commodore View Post

                How much Strontium-90 are you willing to tolerate in your milk?

                Anyway, what happens when you blow up the radars, but not the missiles?

                They fire more missiles...



                7 1/2 years of halfassery, and they have still learned nothing.
                I do not drink milk from the middle east. LOL. I hear they mostly sell goat milk and I do eat cheese made from goat milk, but its not from the middle east.

                Of course, if our ships are attacked using missiles we have the right to blow em to hell and back. I am not a pacifist, just believe our robber barons need to be cut off from affecting our foreign policy, for they have done it for far too long. I always thought our interest in the middle east was because we needed all of the oil the world can get from that part of the world, for modern economies would crash and burn without it. But when we started destabilizing the middle east, it became obvious that we did not have this as a priority. So, something else is involved with our meddling over there, and the wars. And it has nothing to do with insuring a smooth accessing of oil for the world. Something else is driving it, and it is not in the interest of the American people, what drives it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                  I do not drink milk from the middle east. LOL. I hear they mostly sell goat milk and I do eat cheese made from goat milk, but its not from the middle east.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Commodore View Post
                    I do not worry about Israel detonating their nukes. You?

                    Seems like they fire missiles at one of our ships, and instead of moving the ship, since we are not at war with yemen, we take out 3 radar sites. So the people we are not at war with are blind as to the people that they are fighting. Kinda smells like that time I put a piece of Limburger cheese on the exhaust manifold of my brother car when he was about to exit the wedding reception and take off with his new wife to honey moon.

                    So this ship is still there and they shoot off one more missile. LOL Limburger cheese, and sardines. Quite the combo for smells.

                    Next up, we go and taunt the NK, who do have a bomb and are trying to get a dependable way to sent that payload to other places to light up other people. We so love to stir up these piles of shit. Like we want them to attack us. So we can say....

                    Why is it that supposed mature adults act like kids on some playground of my youth? Where fights break out? But worse really. For some kid walked across town to play on another school's play ground which he heard had more bullies since his own was rather quiet. He wanted to how off his new karate skills. Show off. Whip some ass.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                      And the sane choice is, to get the hell out. Allow the Saudis and Iran to fight their own battles for who is top dog in the middle east. At least if Iran is top dog, we probably will not have to worry about Shiites attacking America and Europe the way the sunnis are doing. Let these sects fight it out, and us try to reach an agreement with Russia for both of us to stay out of it. Thereby we do not create new enemies. Of course we will always involve ourselves for one primary reason. Our robber baron elites, including the Bush family have financial ties with the Saudis, going back to George Herbert Walker. We are in the middle east, and have invaded it, deposed their rulers, of secular gov'ts, in the interests of our robber barons who have ties to the robber barons in the UK and Europe. Does anyone really think this has a damned thing to do with national security, or the interests of the American people? LOL It has never been about security or the interests of the People.

                      Russia is under threat of terror attacks, not from the Shiites, but the sunnis, just as we are. The sunnis are the greatest problem, not the Shiites. The problem with Iran is a problem created by the contention between Israel and iran, for Iran fears the nukes of Israel. Which is the only reason they might ever want their own nukes to hold off Israel. Unlike the sunnis, the Shiites in Iran have never been aggressive and trying to take and conquer other states in the middle east. Iran needs to feel secure, and we, the sunnis, nor Israel will give them that. And what does this historically go back to? Perhaps a western puppet brutal shah that we had something to do with putting him in place? We cannot take sticks and stir up a pile of shit and not expect to get some on us. To blame the pile of crap for us getting it on us is irresponsible and stupid. Stop stirring the shit, quite the novel idea. But there is no profit for our robber barons in that, is there?
                      If Israel was going to nuke Iran, it would have been done already. Why you take Iran's side in this conflict is beyond reasonable. Israel has shown itself to be a peaceful Country and all attacks have been for defense. It is Iran that refuses to make peace. The only think Iran has to fear from Israel is retaliation in defense. The ball of peace is in Iran's court. They can broker peace if they choose to, but they do not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                        I do not worry about Israel detonating their nukes. You?

                        Seems like they fire missiles at one of our ships, and instead of moving the ship, since we are not at war with yemen, we take out 3 radar sites. So the people we are not at war with are blind as to the people that they are fighting. Kinda smells like that time I put a piece of Limburger cheese on the exhaust manifold of my brother car when he was about to exit the wedding reception and take off with his new wife to honey moon.

                        So this ship is still there and they shoot off one more missile. LOL Limburger cheese, and sardines. Quite the combo for smells.

                        Next up, we go and taunt the NK, who do have a bomb and are trying to get a dependable way to sent that payload to other places to light up other people. We so love to stir up these piles of shit. Like we want them to attack us. So we can say....

                        Why is it that supposed mature adults act like kids on some playground of my youth? Where fights break out? But worse really. For some kid walked across town to play on another school's play ground which he heard had more bullies since his own was rather quiet. He wanted to how off his new karate skills. Show off. Whip some ass.
                        Water ways need safe passage. You fire at a US ship, you should know that you will die.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by msc View Post

                          Water ways need safe passage. You fire at a US ship, you should know that you will die.
                          You fire at a US vessel involved in supporting the Saudi backed militants in a civil war you are doing far more than threatening safe passage for shipping.
                          Why pretend the Obama adminisitration is right this time but incompentent and wrong every other time?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                            I do not worry about Israel detonating their nukes. You?
                            I trust them to responsibly defend themselves, and if the need arises, avenge their people. I trust the Saudis, or the Indians, to do the same. It's not clear who or what there is to trust in Pakistan or North Korea. And I trust the Ayatollahs to do exactly what they say they are going to do if given half a chance.

                            But in the end, it doesn't matter why the fallout sprinkles the globe, only that it has. The only solution is to make sure it doesn't get that far.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Commodore View Post

                              As far as the Saudis or Iranians, Sunni's or Shia, Arabs or Persians are concerned, this not mere geopolitics, this is about survival. At the end of this, one side lives, and the other dies.

                              In that case they are not in a hurry, right ? Since arab/persian power struggles are older than Islam, if I may point that out.
                              This is actually indeed a rather old fashioned conflict about land, power and ressources that has boiled up time and time again over centuries, whenever rulers on either side saw it as suitable. This conflict was already old long before the US even began to meddle in the Near East, and the kingdom of Saudi-Arabia was founded and you are now part of it, because you picked a side. Not based on any imaginary values, but on geopolitics. That is also why you won´t end that conflict.

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