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  • John McCains Memoir

    In war and peace for an obvious reason.

    I'm unsure of how interested people are in this man or the topic but thought I'd try.

    As much as I don't care for the man, it might be interesting what he puts in this. No, I won't be rushing out to buy one, but maybe later read a copy somewhere..I don't know ?

    But he seems to be expressing honesty and humility here

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    I'm Partly to Blame for 'Mistake' of Iraq War


    Sen. John McCain in his new memoir makes the confession that the Iraq War was a "mistake" and says he shoulders part of the blame, Vox reported Friday.

    He explained the Iraq War "can't be judged as anything other than a mistake, a very serious one, and I have to accept my share of the blame for it."

    McCain was a steadfast supporter of the initiative to go to war with Iraq during the administration of former President George W. Bush.

    "I came out of the Vietnam War convinced that frankly we could have won, and we had it won," Politico's Michael Hirsh said the Arizona Republican told him in 2014. "Just as I believed we had the Iraq conflict won after the surge — and for which I sacrificed everything, including my presidential ambitions, that it would succeed."

    Even back in 2005, when 66 percent of the country was against the effort to bring democracy to Iraq, McCain doubled down on his support of the war.

    "Securing ever-increasing parts of Iraq and preventing the emergence of new terrorist safe havens will require more troops and money," McCain said at the time at an event with the American Enterprise Institute. "It will take time, probably years, and mean more American casualties. Those are terrible prices to pay. But with the stakes so high, I believe we must choose the strategy with the best chance of success."

    Estimates are that the Iraq War resulted in 150,000 to 460,000 casualties and contributed to a continuing instability in the region.

    McCain's memoir, entitled "The Restless Wave: Good Times, Just Causes, Great Fights, and Other Appreciations," was released earlier this week where the longtime senator reflects on his life. Currently battling brain cancer, McCain said he wrote it because he had "some things I’d like to take care of first, some work that needs finishing, and some people I need to see. And I want to talk to my fellow Americans a little more if I may."


    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/sen.../25/id/862551/

  • #2
    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
    In war and peace for an obvious reason.

    I'm unsure of how interested people are in this man or the topic but thought I'd try.

    As much as I don't care for the man, it might be interesting what he puts in this. No, I won't be rushing out to buy one, but maybe later read a copy somewhere..I don't know ?

    But he seems to be expressing honesty and humility here

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I'm Partly to Blame for 'Mistake' of Iraq War


    Sen. John McCain in his new memoir makes the confession that the Iraq War was a "mistake" and says he shoulders part of the blame, Vox reported Friday.

    He explained the Iraq War "can't be judged as anything other than a mistake, a very serious one, and I have to accept my share of the blame for it."

    McCain was a steadfast supporter of the initiative to go to war with Iraq during the administration of former President George W. Bush.

    "I came out of the Vietnam War convinced that frankly we could have won, and we had it won," Politico's Michael Hirsh said the Arizona Republican told him in 2014. "Just as I believed we had the Iraq conflict won after the surge — and for which I sacrificed everything, including my presidential ambitions, that it would succeed."

    Even back in 2005, when 66 percent of the country was against the effort to bring democracy to Iraq, McCain doubled down on his support of the war.

    "Securing ever-increasing parts of Iraq and preventing the emergence of new terrorist safe havens will require more troops and money," McCain said at the time at an event with the American Enterprise Institute. "It will take time, probably years, and mean more American casualties. Those are terrible prices to pay. But with the stakes so high, I believe we must choose the strategy with the best chance of success."

    Estimates are that the Iraq War resulted in 150,000 to 460,000 casualties and contributed to a continuing instability in the region.

    McCain's memoir, entitled "The Restless Wave: Good Times, Just Causes, Great Fights, and Other Appreciations," was released earlier this week where the longtime senator reflects on his life. Currently battling brain cancer, McCain said he wrote it because he had "some things I’d like to take care of first, some work that needs finishing, and some people I need to see. And I want to talk to my fellow Americans a little more if I may."


    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/sen.../25/id/862551/
    McCain was right. We did have Vietnam and Iraq won. A change in leadership threw both victories away. I'll probably read this book although McCain has become somewhat irrational since coming down with a bad case of Trump hate.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Brexx View Post
      McCain was right. We did have Vietnam and Iraq won. A change in leadership threw both victories away. I'll probably read this book although McCain has become somewhat irrational since coming down with a bad case of Trump hate.
      As did everyone else who decided to pick up on this trendy new virus - "Trump derangement syndrome." . . or what ever we wish to call it.

      It won't last, except for those who insist on, or enjoy being stuck on stupid. It's pointless, has no base in reality, and has no good purpose beyond causing the person harboring it needless stress and uncivilized behaviour.

      People are going to tire of it and find that there are better things to do with their energies than hating someone they've never met & never WILL meet.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Brexx View Post

        McCain was right. We did have Vietnam and Iraq won. A change in leadership threw both victories away. I'll probably read this book although McCain has become somewhat irrational since coming down with a bad case of Trump hate.
        I think it's note worthy that McCain is enough of a man to admit that he's made mistakes like Iraq and picking Sarah Palin for VP Unlike old Double down Donnie who can never bring himself to say I was wrong probably because he's too stupid to know when he's goofed up.Even his religious followers are not bothered by his claim that he can't thing that he has ever done that he would like to ask God to forgive. He is very good at casting stones I guess he must be the proverbial "{he who is without sin"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

          As did everyone else who decided to pick up on this trendy new virus - "Trump derangement syndrome." . . or what ever we wish to call it.

          It won't last, except for those who insist on, or enjoy being stuck on stupid. It's pointless, has no base in reality, and has no good purpose beyond causing the person harboring it needless stress and uncivilized behaviour.

          People are going to tire of it and find that there are better things to do with their energies than hating someone they've never met & never WILL meet.
          I think the majority of Dems will hate Trump forever, mainly because that hate is being constantly fed by the liberal media.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redrover View Post

            I think it's note worthy that McCain is enough of a man to admit that he's made mistakes like Iraq and picking Sarah Palin for VP Unlike old Double down Donnie who can never bring himself to say I was wrong probably because he's too stupid to know when he's goofed up.Even his religious followers are not bothered by his claim that he can't thing that he has ever done that he would like to ask God to forgive. He is very good at casting stones I guess he must be the proverbial "{he who is without sin"
            I'm going to read the book. I would like to know if he now considers the whole idea of removing Saddam was a mistake, or if he is referring more to the way the war was carried out. There certainly were mistakes made.
            You will remember when McCain said we should leave troops in Iraq for a 100 years if necessary. He was right about that. If you are going to do something don't be half-assed about it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brexx View Post

              I think the majority of Dems will hate Trump forever, mainly because that hate is being constantly fed by the liberal media.
              I do hope you're wrong and that people will get tired of it.

              The constant onslaught of negativity is unhealthy for people, my hope is they get tired of feeding off it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                I do hope you're wrong and that people will get tired of it.

                The constant onslaught of negativity is unhealthy for people, my hope is they get tired of feeding off it.
                Let's face it. The left is not going to stop stoking the Trump hate. That's all they have, and it seems that's all they want. He is the perfect target for them, a straight WHITE male, successful, wealthy, and probably worst of all for them, he speaks his mind, no PC. He could create world peace and they would criticize it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Brexx View Post
                  Let's face it. The left is not going to stop stoking the Trump hate. That's all they have, and it seems that's all they want. He is the perfect target for them, a straight WHITE male, successful, wealthy, and probably worst of all for them, he speaks his mind, no PC. He could create world peace and they would criticize it.
                  That is the positive.

                  The more good this president accomplishes, the stupider the left looks by ignoring it or criticizing it. They're looking dumber & dumber by the day.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    That is the positive.

                    The more good this president accomplishes, the stupider the left looks by ignoring it or criticizing it. They're looking dumber & dumber by the day.
                    It looks like that meeting with Kim might go ahead. The Trump haters are going to be really disappointed if something good comes of this.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Brexx View Post

                      It looks like that meeting with Kim might go ahead. The Trump haters are going to be really disappointed if something good comes of this.
                      This whole fiasco reminds me of high school. D id you hear that Kimmie and Donny are going steady again? Just in time for the prom.I hear from my spy in the State department that they are not hopeful because Trump doesn't know Jack about diplomacy. Everybody in state detest him even his own staff can't stand him.You are right if something good comes of this like Trump's plane crashing into the Pacific. I would disappointed because I want him to live to go to prison and I would feel badly for the innocent people on the plane.You can count on old gasbag declaring this the greatest summit in world history. He will say that even if Kim spits in his face.My guess is that they will exchange a few pleasantries and that will be about it.Any real agreement would have to include complex details Trump doesn't understand.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by redrover View Post

                        This whole fiasco reminds me of high school. D id you hear that Kimmie and Donny are going steady again? Just in time for the prom.I hear from my spy in the State department that they are not hopeful because Trump doesn't know Jack about diplomacy. Everybody in state detest him even his own staff can't stand him.You are right if something good comes of this like Trump's plane crashing into the Pacific. I would disappointed because I want him to live to go to prison and I would feel badly for the innocent people on the plane.You can count on old gasbag declaring this the greatest summit in world history. He will say that even if Kim spits in his face.My guess is that they will exchange a few pleasantries and that will be about it.Any real agreement would have to include complex details Trump doesn't understand.
                        A deal with NK is not even in sight yet. Its just an idea floated by Kim. A meeting with Trump isn't going to change that, but it can't do any harm and might do some good. We need to find out what Kim is willing to do and what he wants in exchange for it. Its not that complicated.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brexx View Post
                          It looks like that meeting with Kim might go ahead. The Trump haters are going to be really disappointed if something good comes of this.
                          As I was saying; "....The more good this president accomplishes, the stupider the left looks by ignoring it or criticizing it. They're looking dumber & dumber by the day."

                          We're going to criticize it before we know for sure it's even happening.

                          LOL

                          Originally posted by redrover View Post
                          This whole fiasco reminds me of high school. D id you hear that Kimmie and Donny are going steady again? Just in time for the prom.I hear from my spy in the State department that they are not hopeful because Trump doesn't know Jack about diplomacy. Everybody in state detest him even his own staff can't stand him.You are right if something good comes of this like Trump's plane crashing into the Pacific. I would disappointed because I want him to live to go to prison and I would feel badly for the innocent people on the plane.You can count on old gasbag declaring this the greatest summit in world history. He will say that even if Kim spits in his face.My guess is that they will exchange a few pleasantries and that will be about it.Any real agreement would have to include complex details Trump doesn't understand.
                          If it DOES happen and something good comes of it, we'll get even nastier LOL

                          But for now, "Trumps too dumb to know what he's doing." and "You are right if something good comes of this like Trump's plane crashing into the Pacific."

                          will suffice LOL

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            As I was saying; "....The more good this president accomplishes, the stupider the left looks by ignoring it or criticizing it. They're looking dumber & dumber by the day."

                            We're going to criticize it before we know for sure it's even happening.

                            LOL



                            If it DOES happen and something good comes of it, we'll get even nastier LOL

                            But for now, "Trumps too dumb to know what he's doing." and "You are right if something good comes of this like Trump's plane crashing into the Pacific."

                            will suffice LOL
                            When first asked what he was doing to prepare for the summit he said nothing implying that he was going to do what he's been doing since he got elected. I'll just wing it and make it up as I go along. After a while he had a chance to think and decided to change his story to I've been preparing for this my whole life. How can you guys love a guy like this who is so full of sh*t?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              When first asked what he was doing to prepare for the summit he said nothing implying that he was going to do what he's been doing since he got elected. I'll just wing it and make it up as I go along. After a while he had a chance to think and decided to change his story to I've been preparing for this my whole life. How can you guys love a guy like this who is so full of sh*t?
                              Yes, you hate trump *yawns*

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