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The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

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  • The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

    This esquire article came out about how former SEALs are struggling financially after leaving the military. In fact, even bin Laden's shooter (the fact that he was even identified is news to me) doesn't even have health insurance or a pension. This is so sad.

    Of all the money raised for political campaigns and other charities around the US, you'd think there would be a fund to help the top soldiers in the country. I'll bet there are billionaires and millionaires who cut checks without blinking an eye for these heroes. I suppose the counter argument is that each combat veteran is worthy and how do you distinguish but I think ST6 is a good place to start.

    http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/featu...bin-laden-0313

    But the Shooter will discover soon enough that when he leaves after sixteen years in the Navy, his body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks, here is what he gets from his employer and a grateful nation:

    Nothing. No pension, no health care, and no protection for himself or his family.

    Since Abbottabad, he has trained his children to hide in their bathtub at the first sign of a problem as the safest, most fortified place in their house. His wife is familiar enough with the shotgun on their armoire to use it. She knows to sit on the bed, the weapon's butt braced against the wall, and precisely what angle to shoot out through the bedroom door, if necessary. A knife is also on the dresser should she need a backup.
    http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/featu...bin-laden-0313

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    Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

    He could stick it out for another 4 years and get that pension, health care, and a cushion for him and his family.

    Either way, it isn't like the guy can't find work. He has a highly valued set of skills.

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      Seriously, what do you think should happen?
      It's the market giving youngsters an object lesson in career planning.

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        Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

        Originally posted by goober View Post
        Seriously, what do you think should happen?
        It's the market giving youngsters an object lesson in career planning.
        Besides, he's just a pampered loser, right Goober? Why should he be entitled to any benefits?

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          This nation doesn't value much more than those that are lucky enough to get rich. Sad, but the actions of this nation proves that in spades.

          I think that the team that went in, risked their lives to get OBL should be on a pension for the rest of their lives, financed by the taxpayers. In gratitude. I think anyone that risks his life for this nation, that nation is in debt to him, and it should take care of him in the best way, if he needs it.

          When you have to have groups like the Wounded Warriors, that is certain proof this nation does not care for its own. I feel this is unforgivable and is a tarnish on this nation. We will spend millions in going after a criminal, like the guy who killed those cops, but we will not spend a red cent caring for the heroes of this nation. And that is FUBAR, IMO.

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            Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

            Originally posted by ThorHammer View Post
            He could stick it out for another 4 years and get that pension, health care, and a cushion for him and his family.

            Either way, it isn't like the guy can't find work. He has a highly valued set of skills.
            And if he's that 'shot up' (is body filled with scar tissue, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage, and blown disks) why is this not a medical discharge with the normal benefits that come with that?

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              Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

              Originally posted by goober View Post
              Seriously, what do you think should happen?
              It's the market giving youngsters an object lesson in career planning.
              BRAVO!

              Now... what's it going to take for you (and the rest of the left) to apply those same standards to EVERYBODY ELSE!?!

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                Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                BRAVO!

                Now... what's it going to take for you (and the rest of the left) to apply those same standards to EVERYBODY ELSE!?!
                The same standards do apply to everyone else, except corporate CEOS, they get millions whether they succeed or fail, but for most people the same rules apply, or it's even tougher.

                A friend of mine works for the state, she makes about 90k a year, and she'll get 80% of that when she retires, that's the deal she took, that's the deal she'll get.
                Her brother worked for a steel company, that went bankrupt,( Don't worry the execs made out OK, Mitt Romney Style), but he lost half his promised pension and all his lifetime medical benefits (Mitt Romney Style).....
                I'm noticing that a lot, the people whose retirement is going like they planned are former teachers, or police or firemen, they did their time, and now they get their pension. The people who are screwed are people who were doing quite well in the private sector, and things just turned around so fast they couldn't recover.
                The reason she gets her deal, and he gets screwed is because she signed up with an entity that survived, the state. For people who counted on a company like US Steel, or AT&T, or Trans World Airlines or Kodak, to be around longer than them, well, (Screw 'em Romney Style).
                This guy signed up to spend the prime of his life developing skills that have no market value, and he (for whatever reason) chose to retire before he qualified for a pension.
                He probably needs counselling(ah, too bad no medical), he probably needed counselling before he left the navy.

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                  Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

                  Originally posted by goober View Post
                  This guy signed up to spend the prime of his life developing skills that have no market value, and he (for whatever reason) chose to retire before he qualified for a pension.
                  He probably needs counselling(ah, too bad no medical), he probably needed counselling before he left the navy.
                  Oh they have a lot of market value. Very high demand for men like him in certain fields.

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                    I imagine though future book deals and interviews like this esquire one he'll make out okay but it's still a travesty. If a bullied grandmother could get 700K raised for her by people who felt bad, the guys who were on that raid and even all of SEAL Team Six could probably get millions each. Hell I'd donate.

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                      This is happening to all veterans of these wars... and those that do go to the 20 just get a pension anymore their medical will be taken away this year ... we will all be pushed to tricare standard which pretty much means "obama care" ...

                      IMO this man is an american hero ... 20 years or not he was a navy seal and there is no program out there that is worth a damn at getting guy jobs ... i got work due to luck and timing....

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                        Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

                        Originally posted by goober View Post
                        Seriously, what do you think should happen?
                        It's the market giving youngsters an object lesson in career planning.
                        ya fuck them pampered losers...

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                          Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

                          Originally posted by Rakkasan View Post
                          ya fuck them pampered losers...
                          Well, that seems to be the market's response, why? Are you advocating we raise taxes to provide for these people, turn it into the 48% or the 52%?
                          I mean, why should a guy like Mitt Romney, who served his country by running for president have to pay more of his "hard earned" income to cover some guy who apparently never even bothered to set up a 401k and apparently didn't plan for his retirement at all....

                          I mean on the one hand you got the right demanding that taxes be cut, and to do that they want to get tough with children, retirees, and the unemployed.
                          But now you want all this sympathy for this guy, who turned down work, make up your mind....

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                            Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

                            Originally posted by goober View Post
                            Well, that seems to be the market's response, why? Are you advocating we raise taxes to provide for these people, turn it into the 48% or the 52%?
                            I mean, why should a guy like Mitt Romney, who served his country by running for president have to pay more of his "hard earned" income to cover some guy who apparently never even bothered to set up a 401k and apparently didn't plan for his retirement at all....

                            I mean on the one hand you got the right demanding that taxes be cut, and to do that they want to get tough with children, retirees, and the unemployed.
                            But now you want all this sympathy for this guy, who turned down work, make up your mind....
                            my mind is made up... we should have a better system of helping vets transition to civilian life.. we did for WW 2 ...... we should not cut medical benefits for retiree veterans so we can help get more democrat votes which is what your party is doing right now... and we should take care of the tens of thousands of vets who were injured in the wars BOTH parties voted for

                            It is pretty simple since it only accounts for .45% of the population ( veterans of these wars) i do not think it is too much to ask.... I mean the president and people like you want to cry and whine about 3.4% of the population that is gay... well heck they are not even a minority compared to the soldiers who have fought in these wars.........

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                              Re: The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

                              Originally posted by goober View Post
                              Seriously, what do you think should happen?
                              It's the market giving youngsters an object lesson in career planning.
                              Then you would have no objection to having your social security and medicare benefits transferred to one of our "pampered losers", then, right?

                              I mean, as meticulously as you've planned your career, you won't need any help later......

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