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  • Any advice on your kids being in the military?

    My oldest son took the ASVAB yesterday and as long as he passes the physical, I'm pretty sure he will be going into the USAF soon. Anybody have any advice for me or for me to pass to my son? He hasn't chosen a job yet, but he aced the ASVAB and can get any job he wants. (AFQT of 99!)

    He tore his ACL and it was repaired 2 years ago. He is fine now, but I don't think he is up for Combat Control or Pararescue. He is leaning toward an intel job, but I'm trying to get him into something more "technical" for better training after the military. A Marine friend of mine suggested he become a linguist. I know it's up to him and I can't make his choices, but it's good to have the advice of others to consider as I advise him.

    Also, I'll take advice on how to best stay in touch with him, financial arrangements, overseas tours, etc....

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    Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

    Originally posted by Texan View Post
    My oldest son took the ASVAB yesterday and as long as he passes the physical, I'm pretty sure he will be going into the USAF soon. Anybody have any advice for me or for me to pass to my son? He hasn't chosen a job yet, but he aced the ASVAB and can get any job he wants. (AFQT of 99!)

    He tore his ACL and it was repaired 2 years ago. He is fine now, but I don't think he is up for Combat Control or Pararescue. He is leaning toward an intel job, but I'm trying to get him into something more "technical" for better training after the military. A Marine friend of mine suggested he become a linguist. I know it's up to him and I can't make his choices, but it's good to have the advice of others to consider as I advise him.

    Also, I'll take advice on how to best stay in touch with him, financial arrangements, overseas tours, etc....
    A brother-in-law let the Air Force teach him Meteorology and spent 20 years forecasting weather, the last 5 or 6 of it he forecasted weather for Air Force One.

    A friend of mine from high school let the air force teach him veterinarian sciences and he spent his 4 years looking after pets on a base in Germany.

    All services have critical rates (jobs): Those are the rates they have trouble filling and retaining. A wise recruit will find out which rates are critical and strike for one of those. Promotions are quicker and they an pick-and-choose the duty stations as long as a given duty station needs someone of that rate. Then, when it comes time to consider reenlisting, the deals they get offered are usually much sweeter than the guy who took the more popular job. While considering which of the critical rates to select, consider, also, how handy it would be to know that job once he gets out.

    I picked Machinist Mate in the Navy and it was a critical rate at that time so I got all the perks ... but there's not much call for a Marine Turbine Mechanic on the outside: Sigh.

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      Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

      Originally posted by Texan View Post
      My oldest son took the ASVAB yesterday and as long as he passes the physical, I'm pretty sure he will be going into the USAF soon. Anybody have any advice for me or for me to pass to my son? He hasn't chosen a job yet, but he aced the ASVAB and can get any job he wants. (AFQT of 99!)

      He tore his ACL and it was repaired 2 years ago. He is fine now, but I don't think he is up for Combat Control or Pararescue. He is leaning toward an intel job, but I'm trying to get him into something more "technical" for better training after the military. A Marine friend of mine suggested he become a linguist. I know it's up to him and I can't make his choices, but it's good to have the advice of others to consider as I advise him.

      Also, I'll take advice on how to best stay in touch with him, financial arrangements, overseas tours, etc....
      I had my choice of specialties when I went in and I chose electronics. It served me well. I would probably chose something in a computer related field today. I look back on the years I spent in the Air Force as very good education in not just the technical field but also in traveling the world.

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        Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

        My oldest nephew has been in the Air Force now for 10 years. He is now an E-6 and a logistics expert.

        My youngest nephew is going in on Nov 26th of this year. His plans are to train in aircraft structural maintenance.

        The older one loves it and highly recommended that his brother join up. But the AF is going to be a far different plan for him than it was for his big brother. Promotions won't come as fast, tours will be more settled, and if your son is looking for 'action' he very likely isn't going to find it.

        As far as keeping in touch, even in Iraq in 2004-7 (two tours) my brother talked to his son at least weekly over the internet, often more than that.

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          Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

          Originally posted by Texan View Post
          My oldest son took the ASVAB yesterday and as long as he passes the physical, I'm pretty sure he will be going into the USAF soon. Anybody have any advice for me or for me to pass to my son? He hasn't chosen a job yet, but he aced the ASVAB and can get any job he wants. (AFQT of 99!)

          He tore his ACL and it was repaired 2 years ago. He is fine now, but I don't think he is up for Combat Control or Pararescue. He is leaning toward an intel job, but I'm trying to get him into something more "technical" for better training after the military. A Marine friend of mine suggested he become a linguist. I know it's up to him and I can't make his choices, but it's good to have the advice of others to consider as I advise him.

          Also, I'll take advice on how to best stay in touch with him, financial arrangements, overseas tours, etc....
          Have him choose an area of work that really fascinates him. He will get much more out his service when he really feels like he's contributing.

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            Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

            Wow! just got my answer bounced!

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            Have your son go for something involving communications if he can. Technical computer knowledge goes a long way towards a job in civilian life.

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              Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

              Originally posted by Texan View Post
              My oldest son took the ASVAB yesterday and as long as he passes the physical, I'm pretty sure he will be going into the USAF soon. Anybody have any advice for me or for me to pass to my son? He hasn't chosen a job yet, but he aced the ASVAB and can get any job he wants. (AFQT of 99!)

              He tore his ACL and it was repaired 2 years ago. He is fine now, but I don't think he is up for Combat Control or Pararescue. He is leaning toward an intel job, but I'm trying to get him into something more "technical" for better training after the military. A Marine friend of mine suggested he become a linguist. I know it's up to him and I can't make his choices, but it's good to have the advice of others to consider as I advise him.

              Also, I'll take advice on how to best stay in touch with him, financial arrangements, overseas tours, etc....
              Sorry I didn't get to this sooner. Linguist is a good field to go in. At the very least, have him take the DLAB test to see what he scores. You get a lot of things in the linguist field, to include a Top Secret clearance. I'm a linguist, myself, and I won't say how much I got here but one of my reenlistment bonuses was the highest the retention NCO had ever seen. You have good job marketability when you get out with various agencies. Just the clearance will open up a lot of doors.

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                Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                I'm trying hard to push him toward and electrical/computer specialty, but he has this intelligence job in his head. I tell him that he will be getting paid to get his training and he should make the most of it. I might even be able to get him a job when he gets out of the military. It's his decision though and I can't push too hard or he will rebel on his way out the door. I suggested F-22 avionics and told him that most of the F-22s are based out of Alaska and Hawaii. Is that cheating?

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                  Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                  Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                  My oldest nephew has been in the Air Force now for 10 years. He is now an E-6 and a logistics expert.

                  My youngest nephew is going in on Nov 26th of this year. His plans are to train in aircraft structural maintenance.

                  The older one loves it and highly recommended that his brother join up. But the AF is going to be a far different plan for him than it was for his big brother. Promotions won't come as fast, tours will be more settled, and if your son is looking for 'action' he very likely isn't going to find it.

                  As far as keeping in touch, even in Iraq in 2004-7 (two tours) my brother talked to his son at least weekly over the internet, often more than that.
                  ***Update from Basic Training***

                  My youngest nephew has complained that "Everybody in the Air Force" knows his older bother and knows that they are related.

                  Sometimes this has been a good thing... and sometimes not. Like extra duty and being called on a lot during briefings (class work). Because he is 'Air Force family'

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                    Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                    I will say that the job title "linguist" is more than just language. I can't really talk about it but I can give you what is published and you can probably put 2 and 2 together.

                    Cryptologic Analyst (35P) | goarmy.com

                    This is Army, btw, but we actually train together. If he joins and goes soon there is a chance that I could be his instructor as I'm heading to the school house for my next duty station.

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                      Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                      fishjoel - He scored a 137 on the ST portion of the ASVAB for Army scoring. He has a good aptitude for foreign language as he is already speaking Spanish pretty fluently. He reads music and plays the trombone and euphonium very well. I don't know how he would do in a combat environment. He's 5'7", 145 lbs, has had a torn but now repaired ACL, and wears glasses. He can benchpress 215 lbs, but he isn't very good at sports like basketball, soccer, or baseball. He is very fit, but is not very athletic or coordinated. He is also a little naive when it comes to dealing with strangers. Part of that is just never having been away from home. I'm hoping the military strenghens his shortcomings and he will find a job that makes use of his current strengths. (intelligence, problem solving, honesty, discipline)

                      Just in case he goes that route, where is your school?
                      Last edited by Texan; 12-04-2013, 08:38 PM.

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                        Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                        Originally posted by Texan View Post
                        fishjoel - He scored a 137 on the ST portion of the ASVAB for Army scoring. He has a good aptitude for foreign language as he is already speaking Spanish pretty fluently. He reads music and plays the trombone and euphonium very well. I don't know how he would do in a combat environment. He's 5'7", 145 lbs, has had a torn but now repaired ACL, and wears glasses. He can benchpress 215 lbs, but he isn't very good at sports like basketball, soccer, or baseball. He is very fit, but is not very athletic or coordinated. He is also a little naive when it comes to dealing with strangers. Part of that is just never having been away from home. I'm hoping the military strenghens his shortcomings and he will find a job that makes use of his current strengths. (intelligence, problem solving, honesty, discipline)

                        Just in case he goes that route, where is your school?
                        Just have him ask to take the DLAB (Defense Language Aptitude Battery). It's a test that supposedly figures out your aptitude to learn a language. There really isn't a way to study for it but I suspect he will do well, especially with the music and Spanish back round (that will help with recognizing different sounds and emphasis). The test basically teaches you rules for a made up language on the spot and you have to figure it out. It will ask questions like where in the word the emphasis was and all kinds of things. I wouldn't worry about the combat environment as it's the Air Force. On top of it being the Air Force, even in the Army it's normally not very physically intensive. I've been on three deployments and I didn't have to go outside the wire to do my job. Again, it's also the Air Force and I don't think they send theirs to combat environments.

                        The school he'd be going to is the Defense Language Institute in Monterey California. I'm moving out there in April. If he has a specific language he wants you should have him see if he can get it in his contract (if he chooses this route). If he doesn't than they will put him in whatever one they need butts in seats for. I didn't have that and wanted Chinese but as 9/11 happened when I was in Basic Training I obviously got Arabic. If he gets a non-middle Eastern language I will most likely never run into him as the schools are in different areas of the base. I might be able to do some minor checking up on him but couldn't really interact as our interactions with trainees are heavily regulate due to too much abuses in the past.

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                          Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                          I do not have kids in the military but do have a cousin (who I often call my brother, as I am an only child but would do anything for the guy) who went into the Marines rather late in life. He did well and walked out with IT and Network Engineer in his resume. Two tours in harms way and thankfully walked out without injury. My only advice is to be supportive and remind them they will get from the military what they put into it. There are plenty that go in and skate through to mediocrity. There are plenty that go in and become rewarded sooner or later for their effort (even if it means the reward is after service) reminding us how positive commitment and service can be. There is of course danger, but that is where the supportive comes into play most.

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                            Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                            Another bit of advice...don't go in thinking it's going to be like the commercials. In many cases there is a good bit of abusive leadership, favoritism, and inane bullshit to deal with. Now, when I say abuse, I'm not saying that he will be beat or any such thing as that. The problem is that the military has full and utter control over your life and a leader can make someone's life hell w/o ever breaking a rule. That aside, tell him that if something doesn't seem right, take the time to look up the regulation on it. There is a regulation for EVERYTHING.

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                              Re: Any advice on your kids being in the military?

                              Originally posted by fishjoel View Post
                              Another bit of advice...don't go in thinking it's going to be like the commercials. In many cases there is a good bit of abusive leadership, favoritism, and inane bullshit to deal with. Now, when I say abuse, I'm not saying that he will be beat or any such thing as that. The problem is that the military has full and utter control over your life and a leader can make someone's life hell w/o ever breaking a rule. That aside, tell him that if something doesn't seem right, take the time to look up the regulation on it. There is a regulation for EVERYTHING.
                              We used to complain "we're supposed to DEFEND the Constitution, but we're not subject to it" because the UCMJ was our marching orders.

                              has that changed?

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