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  • Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

    China is currently making its own space station.
    The Chinese station will be finished in 2020 - 2022 with a weight of 60 tons.
    China Details Ambitious Space Station Goals | Chinese Space Station, Shenzhou Space Capsules | Chinese Space Program, Space Exploration | Space.com

    Experts also say, Chinas primary goal is to send people to the moon.
    "Although the country has not officially announced plans to send people to the moon, many experts say that's where they're heading, and that the space station project, lunar surveyors and robotic landers are merely the setup for that goal."
    China's Lofty Goals: Space Station, Moon and Mars Exploration | Space.com

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    Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

    Thats okay, we can pay through the nose to send people up there and pay huge prices for our people to stay in their base. Meanwhile we will borrow more money and work our way to a third world nation.

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    • #3
      Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

      Originally posted by Wlessard View Post
      Thats okay, we can pay through the nose to send people up there and pay huge prices for our people to stay in their base. Meanwhile we will borrow more money and work our way to a third world nation.
      Will not the Free Market lead more global private enterprises to outer space?

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      • #4
        Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

        Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
        Will not the Free Market lead more global private enterprises to outer space?
        Considering the risk involved with anything beyond low-earth orbit, no. There are simply too many risks in anything beyond such missions to warrant the size of investment required. I'm afraid any sort of mission beyond the low-earth orbit threshold will be government. Nothing inherently wrong with that either.

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        • #5
          Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

          Originally posted by ThorHammer View Post
          Considering the risk involved with anything beyond low-earth orbit, no. There are simply too many risks in anything beyond such missions to warrant the size of investment required. I'm afraid any sort of mission beyond the low-earth orbit threshold will be government. Nothing inherently wrong with that either.
          Even if it means some amazing R&D that they could profit off of in the interim?
          In fact, I wonder how much cell phone technology has actually helped the technology that might go into for-profit space travel.

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          • #6
            Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

            Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
            Even if it means some amazing R&D that they could profit off of in the interim?
            In fact, I wonder how much cell phone technology has actually helped the technology that might go into for-profit space travel.
            Indeed. They may be contracted by the government to develop new technologies, but they aren't going to be sending people or multi-billion dollar investments, to which they hold all risk, beyond low-earth orbit. That will be the area of government leadership. When going to the moon becomes routine by the government thanks to reliable, safe, and proven equipment, private enterprise will take over. The government will then move on to the next envelope that needs pushing (Mars, for example).

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            • #7
              Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

              Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
              Will not the Free Market lead more global private enterprises to outer space?
              Not in this country. I can see the new one for Virgin moving to China in the future.

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              • #8
                Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                Lets all go and shop at walmart to help out these commies. Might as well finance em with our business. Let's help them build up their military, their space dreams and to surpass the american economy. Afterall, the american consumer is happy with our cheap commie made shit, even if it hurts america. We don't really give a shit, just keep the cheap widgets coming.

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                • #9
                  Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                  Originally posted by ThorHammer View Post
                  but they aren't going to be sending people or multi-billion dollar investments, to which they hold all risk
                  Won't they be granted some type of life saving device by some level of government for embarking on such an ambitious road?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                    In the 60's we as a Country believed that being first to get someone to the Moon was an imperative. Over the Decade and the one after the innovations in almost every facet of life were amazing.

                    We beat the Soviets, we beat everyone else and we did it better. Then in the 80's we became complacent, as time went by we have become scared of being the best. So much so that we are willingly abdicating our intelligence, elitism of being the best in the world at just about everything to other countries. It seems we have searched out all aspects of where we have exceeded every other country and are now giving it away to others and going backwards.

                    Why?

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                    • #11
                      Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                      Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
                      Won't they be granted some type of life saving device by some level of government for embarking on such an ambitious road?
                      They haven't yet.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                        Lets all go and shop at walmart to help out these commies. Might as well finance em with our business. Let's help them build up their military, their space dreams and to surpass the american economy. Afterall, the american consumer is happy with our cheap commie made shit, even if it hurts america. We don't really give a shit, just keep the cheap widgets coming.
                        Why pick on Wallmart ? 20-30 percent lower prices. American owned, American run. They IMO are just better run than many. I ran MY business with fewer people, "lower prices" along with better wages. Is it just because us Fuckers have become Fuckee's ?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                          Originally posted by skeptic1 View Post
                          Why pick on Wallmart ? 20-30 percent lower prices. American owned, American run. They IMO are just better run than many. I ran MY business with fewer people, "lower prices" along with better wages. Is it just because us Fuckers have become Fuckee's ?
                          You've got a good point until you get to better wages.
                          I know someone who worked for WalMart.
                          They teach you how to apply for Medicaid and Food Stamps.
                          And we Fs HAVE become Fs.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                            Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
                            You've got a good point until you get to better wages.
                            I know someone who worked for WalMart.
                            They teach you how to apply for Medicaid and Food Stamps.
                            And we Fs HAVE become Fs.
                            IMO Better fed than dead !

                            Do you favor non disclosure of legal benefits ? Some do. That's why it is the law to publicly display such things in the work place.

                            P.S. I also installed a "Rabbi Trust" (Usually used to avoid discrimination rules and further enhance renumeration for some of the highly paid.) for lower paid workers.

                            Everyone should be an F'ee before becoming a F'er to develop an understanding of humanity.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Chinas ambitious plans in the Space

                              Originally posted by Wlessard View Post
                              In the 60's we as a Country believed that being first to get someone to the Moon was an imperative. Over the Decade and the one after the innovations in almost every facet of life were amazing.

                              We beat the Soviets, we beat everyone else and we did it better. Then in the 80's we became complacent, as time went by we have become scared of being the best. So much so that we are willingly abdicating our intelligence, elitism of being the best in the world at just about everything to other countries. It seems we have searched out all aspects of where we have exceeded every other country and are now giving it away to others and going backwards.

                              Why?
                              We stopped working as a united group, because the few's profits over ruled the interests of this nation. This was brought to us by the republicans in their belief that if its good for business profits, it is good for america. This brought a great change that has effected every aspect of american life.

                              Where it used to be good to be nationalistic in certain ways that benefitted the nation, being nationalistic is no longer cool, because business cannot max out profits by being so. So, you have to drop the nationalism, economic nationalism in order to make it ok to enrich a communist state for greater corporate profits.

                              The change in america has more than one cause, but the greatest cause is the change in mindset of the role of business. The role of business before 1980 was considered a part of america, one of her resources that makes her strong. After the republicans came back to power, the role of business was only to max out their profits, regardless of the effects upon the nation. And that change was a monumental one, that sets the stage for what you see today.

                              I think the byword for this is more freedom, more liberty, and it was sold under that moniker.But the effects of this has been devastating upon america, while certain business interests are rolling in the dough from exploitive labor from the poor.

                              It depends upon where a nation sets its priority. If the priority is to make a nation stronger, healthier, you will choose one path. If the priority is to allow business to max out profits by any means necessary, you set out on a different path. The republicans chose the latter path. And they ignore or accept the collateral damage.

                              The repubs have taken this "individualism" into a complete absurdity, because humans have always created great things by working together. It is more important to the conservative ideology to view each man as an island, and from this they think the greater good will be served. This is the great flaw in that ideology, that flies against the very foundation of civilization. And that is the reason this ideology has made such a mess of the economic well being of the majority of americans. United we stand, divided we fall. Something the republicans have no use for. Yet it is a fact of human existence. And something we will relearn again, given the time. But we will have to crash first.
                              Last edited by Blue Doggy; 07-03-2012, 09:45 AM.

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