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  • Windows 8 First Impressions

    Well being a tech net guy I downloaded the beta and started using it.

    Platform - HP P6000
    athlon II X4 640
    4 gig Ram
    1 TB Drive
    Intergrated ATI Radeon 4200

    Reasonable platform was Windows 7 Premium 64.

    Initial load, annoying and obviously geared towards tablet users.

    After about an hour of tweaking and working with Windows 8 I had the desktop where I like it. I am still after 2 months tweaking the system to get it away from the desktop but only an hour so far. No new programs installed yet.

    So far I like it but I have my issues and if I can tweak it more to my liking which is more desktop than tablet I will be happy.

    Will update as I use it more.

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    Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

    Over the weekend I worked at installing Office, World of Warcraft and other programs. Security and Anti-Virus etc.

    Took a lot of tweaking to feel better, still working to see if I can get rid of the starting screen and go right to the desktop.

    My initial assessment is that Windows 8 is designed to be Tablet Friendly, more of a rival to Iphone/Ipad OS by Apple than anything else.

    Short term it is a big change to get used to.

    Some annoying points.

    1: Start Screen. I want to go right to the desktop but I bet there is a tweak for it. I will figure it out.
    2: Start Button GONE - According to a MS engineer they received telemetry from Windows computers that indicated that the Start button was being used less so they took it out. ???


    Some good points.

    1: Definitely runs faster on lesser equipment. Benchmarks with windows 7 Pro on the same platform vs Windows 8 show a faster response and better use of the hardware.
    2: It MIGHT grow on me but again I need to tweak and see.

    Today I plan on seeing what it will take to get it on the Domain at my office like a normal corporate computer.

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      Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

      Connecting to a domain was pretty straight forward. Once I found how to get to the control panel. It synced right up and away I go. Still puts me into the Metro Screen. From what I am reading online you cannot avoid that metro screen so if you like tablets then you will be happy with Windows 8 as is.

      I want my desktop back as my start point.

      BTW ALT-F4 brings up the logout/shutdown at least.

      Windows still has tons of short cuts hiding in it.

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        Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

        As per Microsoft, the sort of final release will be release date + 4 months.

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          Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

          Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
          As per Microsoft, the sort of final release will be release date + 4 months.
          Actually September 26th is pretty accurate as they already shipped to the Manufacturers, Dell, HP, Gateway etc etc. That was beginning of this month. It is usually around 2 months from ship to manufacturer till general release.

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            Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

            Originally posted by Wlessard View Post
            I want my desktop back as my start point.
            That is going to be the real rub, isn't it?

            Tens of millions of units are not going to be upgraded if they can't get to the desktops fast and easily.

            I'm one of them.

            Of course for me there is the whole AutoCAD issue.

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              Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

              Originally posted by Wlessard View Post
              Actually September 26th is pretty accurate as they already shipped to the Manufacturers, Dell, HP, Gateway etc etc. That was beginning of this month. It is usually around 2 months from ship to manufacturer till general release.
              And in mid-January 2013 MS will have an on-line update fixing most of the stick issues...hopefully.

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                Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
                And in mid-January 2013 MS will have an on-line update fixing most of the stick issues...hopefully.
                As for issues, I am just presenting my opinion of the OS. It will be great for tablets.

                Corporate American is gonna be significantly annoyed and the only reason they will buy is for new hardware and all the Win 8 Licenses will be unavoidable addons as this situation has always happened that way. Microsoft wont lose. Win 8 Machine shows up at Ford, tech reloads it with corporate Win 7 Pro install and away it goes to the desk of an employee none the wise.

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                  Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                  Originally posted by Wlessard View Post
                  As for issues, I am just presenting my opinion of the OS. It will be great for tablets.

                  Corporate American is gonna be significantly annoyed and the only reason they will buy is for new hardware and all the Win 8 Licenses will be unavoidable addons as this situation has always happened that way. Microsoft wont lose. Win 8 Machine shows up at Ford, tech reloads it with corporate Win 7 Pro install and away it goes to the desk of an employee none the wise.
                  Most people I know on Wall and Main Street are still using Windows XP and Office 2003 at best.
                  Firms DON'T want to spend the money unless they get bang for the buck and I don't see it.

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                    Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                    Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
                    Most people I know on Wall and Main Street are still using Windows XP and Office 2003 at best.
                    Firms DON'T want to spend the money unless they get bang for the buck and I don't see it.
                    Part of the reason for staying with XP is because most of our relatively large investment in software doesn't function on Vista and 7. For example, I have to use XP to access my tax software for 2007 and earlier returns. One would think that Win7 compatibility mode would resolve the problem but I sure haven't figured out how.

                    I spend roughly $10k/yr on software and could easily spend double that on hardware if I really felt a need to stay ahead of the curve but it's just so much easier to hold back and play catch up every 5 years or so as bugs in both hardware and software get worked out. Nothing kills productivity quite so thoroughly as a brand new "whiz-bang" tech package that takes a dump every time you turn around. I'm staying away from Win8 until I absolutely have to change and my machines that are still running XP will continue to be bubble gummed and band-aided together until I can't do anything but put them on the shelf next to my 8088.

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                      Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                      Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
                      Most people I know on Wall and Main Street are still using Windows XP and Office 2003 at best.
                      Firms DON'T want to spend the money unless they get bang for the buck and I don't see it.
                      Have them get in touch with me. I can upgrade and keep them from losing everything and make them very happy and more secure for a reasonable small business price.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                        Originally posted by lutherf View Post
                        Part of the reason for staying with XP is because most of our relatively large investment in software doesn't function on Vista and 7. For example, I have to use XP to access my tax software for 2007 and earlier returns. One would think that Win7 compatibility mode would resolve the problem but I sure haven't figured out how.

                        I spend roughly $10k/yr on software and could easily spend double that on hardware if I really felt a need to stay ahead of the curve but it's just so much easier to hold back and play catch up every 5 years or so as bugs in both hardware and software get worked out. Nothing kills productivity quite so thoroughly as a brand new "whiz-bang" tech package that takes a dump every time you turn around. I'm staying away from Win8 until I absolutely have to change and my machines that are still running XP will continue to be bubble gummed and band-aided together until I can't do anything but put them on the shelf next to my 8088.
                        Corporate Leasing of systems takes care of some of that and it is tax deductible for business.

                        If you are using home grown software that can be expensive to update.

                        Compatibility is not always effective. If you are using Quickbooks, Office, etc etc some other companies software they should have compatible programs by this point that will work under 7.

                        This is what I do. I find the best pricing and provide support at a reasonable small business price.

                        If you really want an evaluation of your network/server software bundles etc. Depending on where you are I can do that. I have yet to find many if anyone else who can do what I do.

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                          Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                          I made a thread here last year. Its about the Developer Preview of Windows 8. The design was changed in the meanwhile and the start menu solution will not work anymore but here it is:
                          http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/off-...r-preview.html

                          But I worked a solution out to create your own startmenu. Its working with the Consumer Preview, maybe also with later versions. But I think the automatic "all programms" folder will not work in later versions and you will have to translate German:

                          Anleitung: Win8 CP Startmen selbst erstellen - Forum - COMPUTER BILD

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                            Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                            I've been able to test out Windows 8 and honestly for the computer I much prefer the standard desktop. I'm a creature of habit. I do LOVE the metro style and I can't wait for the Surface tablets to be released. I've been using a Windows phone for a year now and LOVE it and can't wait to upgrade when Windows 8 is released. I'm also excited for SmartGlass.

                            I think the $40 upgrade will encourage people to make the switch.

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                              Re: Windows 8 First Impressions

                              Originally posted by Crystal View Post
                              I've been able to test out Windows 8 and honestly for the computer I much prefer the standard desktop. I'm a creature of habit. I do LOVE the metro style and I can't wait for the Surface tablets to be released. I've been using a Windows phone for a year now and LOVE it and can't wait to upgrade when Windows 8 is released. I'm also excited for SmartGlass.

                              I think the $40 upgrade will encourage people to make the switch.
                              Windows 8 is a real good thingy. It has many improvements, etc.
                              But that Metro is just disturbing. While it is good for tablets and smartphones, it is a mess for every mouse using PC user. You want to activate a file? Than you have to switch the interface and fight through that anarchy of tiles. The good old start menu is gone, all you can do is to create desktop shortcuts.

                              Thats just crazy. Nonesense. The ease of use is victim of Microsofts attempt to conquer the mobile sector.

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