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Karen Pence working for a Christian school ?!?!?

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  • #16
    In the meantime, here we have statements made by many American presidents regarding Christianity, the Bible and America

    As I stated earlier,Christianity IS the faith America was founded on. This is proven

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    Presidents, Christian faith, and the Bible

    How are American freedoms, liberties, and laws linked to the Bible?

    That Book, sir, is the Rock on which our Republic rests. said Andrew Jackson on his death-bed, pointing to the Bible (1829-1837)

    The fundamental basis of this nations laws was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings we get from Exodus and Saint Matthew, from Isaiah and Saint Paul. If we dont have a proper fundamental moral background, we will finally end up with a totalitarian government which does not believe in rights for anybody except the State! Harry Truman, Attorney Generals Conference in 1950.(1945-1953)

    In regard to this Great book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. Abraham Lincoln, part of reply to Loyal Colored People of Baltimore upon Presentation of a Bible
    September 7, 1864(1861-1865)

    The Bible is the one supreme source of revelation of the meaning of life, the nature of God, and spiritual nature and needs of men. It is the only guide of life which really leads the spirit in the way of peace and salvation. Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921*)

    [T]he teachings of the Bible are so interwoven and entwined with our whole civic and social life that it would be literally impossible for us to figure to ourselves what that life would be if these teachings were removed. Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909*)


    Q:How do these biblical foundations serve us compared to other governments?

    [T]he comparison of our government with those of Europe is like a comparison of heaven and hell. Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809*)

    The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God. John F. Kennedy (1961-1963*)

    American life is builded, and can alone survive, upon . . . [the] fundamental philosophy announced by the Savior nineteen centuries ago. Herbert Hoover (1929-1933*)

    If you take out of your statutes, your constitution, your family life all that is taken from the Sacred Book, what would there be left to bind society together? Benjamin Harrison (1889-1893*)

    [T]he authority of law, the right to equality, liberty, and property under American institutions, have for their foundation reverence for God. If we could imagine that to be swept away, these institutions of our American government could not long survive. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929*)

    The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. John Adams (1797-1801*)

    We cannot read the history of our rise and development as a nation without reckoning with the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the advances of the Republic. Where we have been the truest and most consistent in obeying its precepts, we have attained the greatest measure of contentment and prosperity. Franklin Roosevelt (1933-1945*)


    Q:What does the Bible offer for Americas future?

    Hold fast to the Bible as the sheet anchor of your liberties, write its precepts in your hearts, and practice them in your lives. To the influence of this book are we indebted for all the progress made in true civilization, and to this we must look as our guide in the future. Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. Ulysses S. Grant (1869-1877*)


    The first and almost the only book deserving of universal attention is the Bible. I speak as a man of the worldand I say to you, Search the Scriptures. John Quincy Adams (1825-1829*)

    The strength of our country is the strength of its religious convictions. The foundations of our society and our government rest so much on the teachings of the Bible that it would be difficult to support them if faith in these teachings would cease to be practically universal in our country. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929*)

    Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged ... Ronald Reagan (1981-1989*)





    https://afajournal.org/past-issues/2...and-the-bible/

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    • #17
      Originally posted by redrover View Post

      Speaking of reading I just read that the Catholic Church the granddaddy of all Christian ignorance didn't admit that the earth orbits the sun until 1992.
      Im no fan of the Catholic Church, so dont necessarily equate that structure as representative of Christianity, like these obviously less educated haters do.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

        Im no fan of the Catholic Church, so dont necessarily equate that structure as representative of Christianity, like these obviously less educated haters do.
        I just learned the difference between the words your and you're On Facebook I saw a picture with the words. when you know your shit next to a picture of Trump with the words when you know you're shit. exactly. .

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        • #19
          Originally posted by redrover View Post
          I just learned the difference between the words your and you're On Facebook
          Great, you're learning how to read English ! That's awesome !

          Originally posted by redrover View Post
          I saw a picture with the words.
          You saw some dumb internet "meme." Generally dumb they are. Most educated people ignore them for the rubbish they are.

          Originally posted by redrover View Post
          when you know your shit next to a picture of Trump with the words when you know you're shit. exactly. .
          Learn how to better construct a proper sentence. That will help : )

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          • #20
            What's all the hatred against Americas founding faith about ?

            It's about a number of things, all liberal.

            "All the discord and vitriol in our culture boils down to how you would answer.

            Should you believe in a God?
            .."

            Oddly enough, our academics and scientists give us more evidence supporting Gods existence, while at the same time denying it.

            intellectual foolishness & dishonesty

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            Border walls, gay marriage, abortion, national defense, school choice -- where you stand on these issues and the myriad others comprising our daily tussle is for the most part defined by how you answer this question. Your answer, yeah or nay, draws a very hard line.

            ...

            Religious belief still remains widespread despite all the pontificating to the contrary by the academy.

            ...

            Messerly then turns to affirming the overwhelming body of evidence of biological evolution.

            Its pretty obvious that he is in over his head in affirming really anything associated with scientific evidence.

            He just asserts with no premises in support, which probably satisfies your typical Salon reader. And what he affirms, the standard unguided natural selection acting on random mutation assertion of the materialists, is just so twentieth century.

            The evolutionary theory that the Messerlys of the world just accept is being steadily dismantled.

            Darwins theory has been totally refuted by the fossil record. Search the web for the Cambrian Explosion and judge the evidence for yourself. The transitional forms that Darwin insisted must exist for his theory to become law are nowhere to be found. Science has been looking for 150 years now and the record is as sparse as it was when Darwin expressed doubt in his own theory.

            Darwin had no idea of the existence of DNA and its role in protein synthesis. Today we know an enormous amount about the genetic code and its role in biological life. We understand what it does, but we have absolutely no idea how such a sophisticated set of instructions and their sequencing could have self-assembled through natural unguided processes. The most brilliant software engineers in the world cannot begin to duplicate the eloquence we see in the DNA code.

            Lets take a look at some of the evidence that secular science has provided us about our existence:

            The universe had a beginning. At some point in the finite past everything that comprises the universe sprung into being. Prior to this nothing existed. Not even quantum vacuums. Something caused the universe to spring into existence. The highly speculative multiverse does not help secular arguments here.

            The physical properties of the universe are set to values so precise that it is virtually impossible to have happened simply by chance.

            Biological life is infused with information. Information in the form of specified complexity a la DNA, only comes from a mind.

            The question, then, is whats the best fit to this data, this evidence? That it all happened by chance or is an intelligent agent involved in creation?

            John G. Messerly needs to set aside his naturalistic fideism and take a hard look at the real evidence uncovered by secular science before accusing theists of unfounded belief.


            https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ellectual.html


            The intellectual ....

            intellectual.jpg


            Thanks B. Kliban - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._Kliban

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            • #21
              Originally posted by redrover View Post

              I just learned the difference between the words your and you're On Facebook I saw a picture with the words. when you know your shit next to a picture of Trump with the words when you know you're shit. exactly. .
              Im sure, in light of the statement I made, this statement makes sense to you.

              mores the pity.

              because IRL, it makes zero contextual sense.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

                Im sure, in light of the statement I made, this statement makes sense to you.

                mores the pity.

                because IRL, it makes zero contextual sense.
                I'll explain it to you. Obama knows his shit and Trump is shit. You'd understand it if you could see the Facebook link. I don't know how to post it without my account coming up.

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                • #23
                  Like I pointed out here:

                  https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...977#post559977

                  ...some dumb internet "meme." Generally dumb they are. Most educated people ignore them for the rubbish they are.

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                  • #24
                    More of Americas Christian heritage that some want to deny.

                    It's frustrating this history ...

                    .. when you hate the facts of it, it is.

                    Hate history if it suits, the fact is that America was and still IS a Christian nation.

                    ... That your hate will only encourage & strengthen.

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                    Franklin Roosevelt mentioned in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1945:

                    As I stand here today, having taken the solemn oath of office in the presence of my fellow countrymen in the presence of God I know that it is Americas purpose that we shall not fail. The Almighty God has blessed our land in many ways. He has given our people stout hearts and strong arms with which to strike mighty blows for freedom and truth.

                    He has given to our country a faith which has become the hope of all peoples in an anguished world. So we pray to Him now for the vision to see our way clearly to see the way that leads to a better life for ourselves and for all our fellow men to the achievement of His will, to peace on earth.



                    President Harry S. Truman stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1949:

                    In performing the duties of my office, I need the help and the prayers of every one of you.

                    The American people stand firm in the faith which has inspired this Nation from the beginning.

                    We believe that all men are created equal because they are created in the image of God. From this faith we will not be moved. People everywhere are coming to realize that what is involved is material well-being, human dignity, and the right to believe in and worship God. We are aided by all who desire freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom to live their own lives for useful ends. Our allies are the millions who hunger and thirst after righteousness (Matthew 5:6).

                    Steadfast in our faith in the Almighty, we will advance toward a world, where mans freedom is secure. With Gods help the future of mankind will be assured in a world of justice, harmony, and peace.



                    The 34th President Dwight Eisenhower stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1953 the first inaugural to be televised:

                    Before I begin would you permit me the privilege of uttering a little private prayer of my own. And I ask that you bow your heads.

                    Almighty God, as we stand here beseeching that Thou will make full and complete our dedication. Give us, we pray, the power to discern clearly right from wrong and allow all our words and actions to be governed thereby. Especially we pray that our concern shall be for all the people regardless of station, race, or calling.

                    May cooperation be the mutual aim of those who hold to differing political faiths; so that all may work for the good of our beloved country and Thy glory. Amen.

                    We are summoned to witness more than the act of one citizen swearing his oath of service, in the presence of God.

                    We are called as a people to give testimony in the sight of the world our faith that the future shall belong to the free. We find ourselves groping to know the full sense and meaning of these times in which we live. In our quest of understanding, we beseech Gods guidance. We who are free must proclaim anew our faith. This faith in America governed by eternal moral and natural laws. This faith defines our full view of life.

                    It establishes beyond debate, those gifts of the Creator that are mans inalienable rights, and that makes all men equal in His sight.

                    This faith rules our whole way of life. It decrees that we, the people, elect leaders not to rule but to serve a conscious renewal of faith in our country and in the watchfulness of a Divine Providence.

                    The enemies of this faith know no god but force. They tutor men in treason. They feed upon the hunger of others.

                    Whatever defies them, they torture, especially the truth.

                    Love of liberty means the guarding of every resource that makes freedom possible from the sanctity of our families and the wealth of our soil to the genius our scientists. This is the work that awaits us all, to be done with bravery, with charity, and with prayer to Almighty God.


                    The 35th President John F. Kennedy stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1961:

                    For I have sworn before you and Almighty God, the same solemn oath our forbears prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago.

                    The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life.

                    And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.


                    The 36th President Lyndon B. Johnson stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1965:

                    We have no promise from God that our greatness will endure. If we fail now, we shall have forgotten that the judgment of God is harshest on those who are most favored.

                    The 37th President Richard Nixon stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1969:

                    As all are born equal in dignity before God, all are born equal in dignity before man.

                    The 38th President Gerald Ford stated upon assuming office, Aug. 9, 1974:

                    I am acutely aware that you have not elected me as your president by your ballots, and so I ask you to confirm me as your president with your prayers. I now solemnly reaffirm my promise to uphold the Constitution, to do what is right as God gives me to see the right.

                    The 39th President Jimmy Carter stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1977:

                    What does the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.'

                    The 40th President Ronald Reagan stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1981:

                    We are a nation under God. It would be fitting I think, if on each Inauguration Day in future years it should be declared a day of prayer. With Gods help, we can and will resolve the problems which now confront us. And after all, why shouldnt we believe that? We are Americans.

                    The 41st President George H.W. Bush stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1989:

                    Heavenly Father, we bow our heads and thank You for Your love. Make us strong to do Your work, willing to heed and hear Your will. And if our flaws are endless, Gods love is truly boundless. God bless you and God bless the United States of America.

                    The 42nd President Bill Clinton stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1993:

                    The Scripture says, And let us not be weary in well-doing, for in due season, we shall reap, if we faint not. With Gods help, we must answer the call. Thank you and God bless you.

                    The 43rd President George W. Bush stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 2001:

                    I will work to build a single nation of justice and opportunity. I know this is within our reach, because we are guided by a Power larger than ourselves, Who creates us equal in His image.

                    The 44th President Barack H. Obama stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 2009:

                    The time has come to reaffirm the God-given promise that all are equal. This is the source of our confidence the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny. With eyes fixed on the horizon and Gods grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations. Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America.

                    The 45th President Donald J. Trump stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 2017:

                    We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones and unite the civilized world against Radical Islamic Terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth. The bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other. When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

                    The Bible tells us, How good and pleasant it is when Gods people live together in unity. There should be no fear we are protected, and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.

                    A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions. It is time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget: that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots, we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American Flag.

                    And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same Almighty Creator. Yes, Together, We Will Make America Great Again. Thank you, God Bless You, And God Bless America.



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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                      More of Americas Christian heritage that some want to deny.

                      It's frustrating this history ...

                      .. when you hate the facts of it, it is.

                      Hate history if it suits, the fact is that America was and still IS a Christian nation.

                      ... That your hate will only encourage & strengthen.

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                      Franklin Roosevelt mentioned in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1945:

                      As I stand here today, having taken the solemn oath of office in the presence of my fellow countrymen in the presence of God I know that it is Americas purpose that we shall not fail. The Almighty God has blessed our land in many ways. He has given our people stout hearts and strong arms with which to strike mighty blows for freedom and truth.

                      He has given to our country a faith which has become the hope of all peoples in an anguished world. So we pray to Him now for the vision to see our way clearly to see the way that leads to a better life for ourselves and for all our fellow men to the achievement of His will, to peace on earth.



                      President Harry S. Truman stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1949:

                      In performing the duties of my office, I need the help and the prayers of every one of you.

                      The American people stand firm in the faith which has inspired this Nation from the beginning.

                      We believe that all men are created equal because they are created in the image of God. From this faith we will not be moved. People everywhere are coming to realize that what is involved is material well-being, human dignity, and the right to believe in and worship God. We are aided by all who desire freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom to live their own lives for useful ends. Our allies are the millions who hunger and thirst after righteousness (Matthew 5:6).

                      Steadfast in our faith in the Almighty, we will advance toward a world, where mans freedom is secure. With Gods help the future of mankind will be assured in a world of justice, harmony, and peace.



                      The 34th President Dwight Eisenhower stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1953 the first inaugural to be televised:

                      Before I begin would you permit me the privilege of uttering a little private prayer of my own. And I ask that you bow your heads.

                      Almighty God, as we stand here beseeching that Thou will make full and complete our dedication. Give us, we pray, the power to discern clearly right from wrong and allow all our words and actions to be governed thereby. Especially we pray that our concern shall be for all the people regardless of station, race, or calling.

                      May cooperation be the mutual aim of those who hold to differing political faiths; so that all may work for the good of our beloved country and Thy glory. Amen.

                      We are summoned to witness more than the act of one citizen swearing his oath of service, in the presence of God.

                      We are called as a people to give testimony in the sight of the world our faith that the future shall belong to the free. We find ourselves groping to know the full sense and meaning of these times in which we live. In our quest of understanding, we beseech Gods guidance. We who are free must proclaim anew our faith. This faith in America governed by eternal moral and natural laws. This faith defines our full view of life.

                      It establishes beyond debate, those gifts of the Creator that are mans inalienable rights, and that makes all men equal in His sight.

                      This faith rules our whole way of life. It decrees that we, the people, elect leaders not to rule but to serve a conscious renewal of faith in our country and in the watchfulness of a Divine Providence.

                      The enemies of this faith know no god but force. They tutor men in treason. They feed upon the hunger of others.

                      Whatever defies them, they torture, especially the truth.

                      Love of liberty means the guarding of every resource that makes freedom possible from the sanctity of our families and the wealth of our soil to the genius our scientists. This is the work that awaits us all, to be done with bravery, with charity, and with prayer to Almighty God.


                      The 35th President John F. Kennedy stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1961:

                      For I have sworn before you and Almighty God, the same solemn oath our forbears prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago.

                      The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life.

                      And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.


                      The 36th President Lyndon B. Johnson stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1965:

                      We have no promise from God that our greatness will endure. If we fail now, we shall have forgotten that the judgment of God is harshest on those who are most favored.

                      The 37th President Richard Nixon stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1969:

                      As all are born equal in dignity before God, all are born equal in dignity before man.

                      The 38th President Gerald Ford stated upon assuming office, Aug. 9, 1974:

                      I am acutely aware that you have not elected me as your president by your ballots, and so I ask you to confirm me as your president with your prayers. I now solemnly reaffirm my promise to uphold the Constitution, to do what is right as God gives me to see the right.

                      The 39th President Jimmy Carter stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1977:

                      What does the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God.'

                      The 40th President Ronald Reagan stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1981:

                      We are a nation under God. It would be fitting I think, if on each Inauguration Day in future years it should be declared a day of prayer. With Gods help, we can and will resolve the problems which now confront us. And after all, why shouldnt we believe that? We are Americans.

                      The 41st President George H.W. Bush stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1989:

                      Heavenly Father, we bow our heads and thank You for Your love. Make us strong to do Your work, willing to heed and hear Your will. And if our flaws are endless, Gods love is truly boundless. God bless you and God bless the United States of America.

                      The 42nd President Bill Clinton stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 1993:

                      The Scripture says, And let us not be weary in well-doing, for in due season, we shall reap, if we faint not. With Gods help, we must answer the call. Thank you and God bless you.

                      The 43rd President George W. Bush stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 2001:

                      I will work to build a single nation of justice and opportunity. I know this is within our reach, because we are guided by a Power larger than ourselves, Who creates us equal in His image.

                      The 44th President Barack H. Obama stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 2009:

                      The time has come to reaffirm the God-given promise that all are equal. This is the source of our confidence the knowledge that God calls on us to shape an uncertain destiny. With eyes fixed on the horizon and Gods grace upon us, we carried forth that great gift of freedom and delivered it safely to future generations. Thank you. God bless you. And God bless the United States of America.

                      The 45th President Donald J. Trump stated in his inaugural, Jan. 20, 2017:

                      We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones and unite the civilized world against Radical Islamic Terrorism, which we will eradicate completely from the face of the Earth. The bedrock of our politics will be a total allegiance to the United States of America, and through our loyalty to our country, we will rediscover our loyalty to each other. When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.

                      The Bible tells us, How good and pleasant it is when Gods people live together in unity. There should be no fear we are protected, and we will always be protected. We will be protected by the great men and women of our military and law enforcement and, most importantly, we are protected by God.

                      A new national pride will stir our souls, lift our sights, and heal our divisions. It is time to remember that old wisdom our soldiers will never forget: that whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots, we all enjoy the same glorious freedoms, and we all salute the same great American Flag.

                      And whether a child is born in the urban sprawl of Detroit or the windswept plains of Nebraska, they look up at the same night sky, they fill their heart with the same dreams, and they are infused with the breath of life by the same Almighty Creator. Yes, Together, We Will Make America Great Again. Thank you, God Bless You, And God Bless America.



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                      How beautiful- gag

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by redrover View Post

                        How beautiful- gag
                        Glad yer feelin' better : )

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                          Glad yer feelin' better : )
                          There is no accounting for taste, back in the late 60's I actually knew people who liked Rod McKuen. gurk I was more into the poetry of Leonard Cohen, Lawrence Ferlinghetti and Kenneth Patchen.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by redrover View Post

                            There is no accounting for taste, back in the late 60's I actually knew people who liked Rod McKuen. gurk
                            Janis Joplin was alright though.

                            Then we had the Dooby Brothers with this great song - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4nNdNJ_U8

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