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  • What do the happiest countries have in common?

    First of all the happiest countries don't have Donald Husain Trump who has vowed that America will never become a happy nation as long as I'm president. https://www.thewrap.com/bill-maher-a...ace-socialism/

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    I am Donald Hussein Trump and have been elected president.

    "My pledge to the people of Amerika is to do everything in my power to make us the unhappiest people on planet earth."

    .... Bilbo Moron... I mean bill maaaarr, is a comedian... we should take advice from him oh yes..... yes we should ; )

    Never mind socialism, we need to go straight to communism. It is best. You'll like it I promise.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by redrover View Post
      First of all the happiest countries don't have Donald Husain Trump who has vowed that America will never become a happy nation as long as I'm president. https://www.thewrap.com/bill-maher-a...ace-socialism/
      It is now a presidential responsibility to make their electorate 'happy' ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

        It is now a presidential responsibility to make their electorate 'happy' ?
        According to socialist/communist morons it is.

        That they're too stupid to realize, no matter how long the list of historical evidence, that socialism and communism makes people miserable, proves how out of touch with reality they are.

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        • #5
          What do the happiest countries have in common? They're the least corrupt and their populations are lily white.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redrover View Post
            First of all the happiest countries don't have Donald Husain Trump who has vowed that America will never become a happy nation as long as I'm president. https://www.thewrap.com/bill-maher-a...ace-socialism/
            Quote from the link:
            “Socialism replacing Capitalism is bad, but socialism as a supplement to capitalism is good,” he said. “Kind of like how gin and tonic are terrible by themselves, but mixed together, delightful.”
            Socialist hell-holes like Denmark took decades to develop their brand, and accommodate capitalism: Publicly-traded, large companies do business in these hell holes, and they complain about doing business in those countries, because they're supposed to complain about any and all regulations that cost them time & money. If there is a country in the world that receives pure praise from all capitalists, let's hear it.

            I'd be very willing to listen carefully to complaints by "capitalist fundamentalists", if I were unaware of the history of capitalism. Like the original (or "first try") of modern-era socialism, modern era capitalism failed. Like full-bore state socialists, the first capitalists collapsed the system on their own weight. Tycoons setting up cartels and monopolies, then claiming they represented capitalism, made certain that the gov't. of their day imposed regulations and restrictions on their behavior. Like communists, they essentially dug their own graves. The only advantage -in some countries- is republican democracy. Supposing the citizens can freely make an informed vote, they can modify defects in their economic system -nowadays that's a "mixed economy", both socialist and capitalist elements. The objective is to find the right balance for the time, rather than find the right BS pitch to get your favorite party into office. Two statements, "Any socialism is communism" comes from the same source as, "Capitalism is fascist". That is, both statements may as well come from a bull's anus.

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              Originally posted by radcentr View Post
              Quote from the link:

              Socialist hell-holes like Denmark took decades to develop their brand, and accommodate capitalism: Publicly-traded, large companies do business in these hell holes, and they complain about doing business in those countries, because they're supposed to complain about any and all regulations that cost them time & money. If there is a country in the world that receives pure praise from all capitalists, let's hear it.

              I'd be very willing to listen carefully to complaints by "capitalist fundamentalists", if I were unaware of the history of capitalism. Like the original (or "first try") of modern-era socialism, modern era capitalism failed. Like full-bore state socialists, the first capitalists collapsed the system on their own weight. Tycoons setting up cartels and monopolies, then claiming they represented capitalism, made certain that the gov't. of their day imposed regulations and restrictions on their behavior. Like communists, they essentially dug their own graves. The only advantage -in some countries- is republican democracy. Supposing the citizens can freely make an informed vote, they can modify defects in their economic system -nowadays that's a "mixed economy", both socialist and capitalist elements. The objective is to find the right balance for the time, rather than find the right BS pitch to get your favorite party into office. Two statements, "Any socialism is communism" comes from the same source as, "Capitalism is fascist". That is, both statements may as well come from a bull's anus.
              Back at the beginning of the twentieth century guys like Teddy Roosevelt broke up the trusts. Back in the days when Republicans had a liberal wing and a soul.https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click

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                Originally posted by redrover View Post

                Back at the beginning of the twentieth century guys like Teddy Roosevelt broke up the trusts. Back in the days when Republicans had a liberal wing and a soul.https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/...g&action=click
                I disagree with the premise that in order to have a soul you have to be a liberal, considering that many liberals are atheists, I'm not sure this is even self consistent.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                  I disagree with the premise that in order to have a soul you have to be a liberal, considering that many liberals are atheists, I'm not sure this is even self consistent.
                  Let's suppose the Republicans took stock of their first brush with capitalism, and the conflict it caused within their party (the schism between TDR and what would become the Roaring 20's lot). Doesn't take a soul to realize that TDR was correct, and the focus was pro small or domestic business, instead of Big Business. That would have required brains, more than a soul.

                  But, like an expensive prostitute, good contacts, good looks and money can go a lot further than intelligence and reflection on one's mistakes. The Republicans lost the black and working class vote soon afterTDR, long before welfare or other reasons offered by current apologists. Why would a black or working class voter go for a Dem in 1928? Because the Pubs didn't support the union movement, while the Dems at least gave lip service. Pubs went for the home runs after they buried TDR, backing the bigger is better business sector, so naturally labor unions would be off the menu. Swing, miss, enter the Great Depression. Swing, miss, enter the modern multi-national corporation playing lowest labor costs around the world. Goodbye home runs.

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                    Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                    Let's suppose the Republicans took stock of their first brush with capitalism, and the conflict it caused within their party (the schism between TDR and what would become the Roaring 20's lot). Doesn't take a soul to realize that TDR was correct, and the focus was pro small or domestic business, instead of Big Business. That would have required brains, more than a soul.

                    But, like an expensive prostitute, good contacts, good looks and money can go a lot further than intelligence and reflection on one's mistakes. The Republicans lost the black and working class vote soon afterTDR, long before welfare or other reasons offered by current apologists. Why would a black or working class voter go for a Dem in 1928? Because the Pubs didn't support the union movement, while the Dems at least gave lip service. Pubs went for the home runs after they buried TDR, backing the bigger is better business sector, so naturally labor unions would be off the menu. Swing, miss, enter the Great Depression. Swing, miss, enter the modern multi-national corporation playing lowest labor costs around the world. Goodbye home runs.
                    When I used the word soul I wasn't thinking in a narrow religious sense. I was thinking of people who have a sense of fairness and social justice not ruled by selfish self interest.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      When I used the word soul I wasn't thinking in a narrow religious sense. I was thinking of people who have a sense of fairness and social justice not ruled by selfish self interest.
                      Be confused no more.


                      Here's the hint: Free Markets function as well as they do because of every actor in the market is acting in their self interest. All those self interests balance out in the end, and produce the most efficient economic system the world has seen in all its history, one that has pulled the vast majority of the 3rd world out of abject poverty and on their way to the middle class.

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                      • #12
                        Here's a list of free market miracles that include some European Socialist Hell Holes, like Denmark, in the top twenty:
                        https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/ec...country?page=2

                        Note the list is compiled by The Heritage Foundation, and that Canada was listed ahead of the US, even though it had a Hellhole (gov't. spending) score below 50 compared with the US score above 50. Beelzebub might want his lawyers to consider a lawsuit for misuse of the phrase "hellhole".

                        I believe free market scoring does provide one indication for increased prosperity, but will be vastly improved when other economic sectors are included. The non-profit, non-governmental sector is not clearly listed, even though it provides some level of economic refuge (charities), employment and control of gov't. abuse. A curious omission...

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                          Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                          Here's a list of free market miracles that include some European Socialist Hell Holes, like Denmark, in the top twenty:
                          https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/ec...country?page=2

                          Note the list is compiled by The Heritage Foundation, and that Canada was listed ahead of the US, even though it had a Hellhole (gov't. spending) score below 50 compared with the US score above 50. Beelzebub might want his lawyers to consider a lawsuit for misuse of the phrase "hellhole".

                          I believe free market scoring does provide one indication for increased prosperity, but will be vastly improved when other economic sectors are included. The non-profit, non-governmental sector is not clearly listed, even though it provides some level of economic refuge (charities), employment and control of gov't. abuse. A curious omission...
                          Unlike Trump I support free trade, but I also believe in investing in people through programs like the GI Bill low interest student loans and affordable health care guaranteed through governmental involvement.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by redrover View Post
                            First of all the happiest countries don't have Donald Husain Trump who has vowed that America will never become a happy nation as long as I'm president. https://www.thewrap.com/bill-maher-a...ace-socialism/
                            None of the countries on that list are socialist countries. They are capitalist countries with higher taxes and more social programs.

                            The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 25% - much lower than it was here before Trump cut it. Over half of Sweden's high schools are private schools. They use a voucher system. Parents can send their kids to the school of their choice. Over 90% of all the land in Sweden is privately owned. They are not dumb enough to think they can provide free everything to the people by taxing hell out of the rich. They've been there, tried that. It didn't work. They had a serious monetary crisis in the 90s that smartened them up pretty good. They pay for their social programs with the usual taxes, income tax and payroll tax, plus a whopping 25% sales tax. If the Swedes are happy with what they have good for them, but I doubt many Americans would like it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Brexx View Post

                              None of the countries on that list are socialist countries. They are capitalist countries with higher taxes and more social programs.

                              The corporate tax rate in Sweden is 25% - much lower than it was here before Trump cut it. Over half of Sweden's high schools are private schools. They use a voucher system. Parents can send their kids to the school of their choice. Over 90% of all the land in Sweden is privately owned. They are not dumb enough to think they can provide free everything to the people by taxing hell out of the rich. They've been there, tried that. It didn't work. They had a serious monetary crisis in the 90s that smartened them up pretty good. They pay for their social programs with the usual taxes, income tax and payroll tax, plus a whopping 25% sales tax. If the Swedes are happy with what they have good for them, but I doubt many Americans would like it.
                              Strange how liberals do that isn't it ??

                              Try to sell socialism by using non-socialist countries as examples. We see it a lot.

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