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  • Gay Bible ... not a joke

    Gays have done it, they've decided to rewrite the bible to suit themselves. If you don't like something rewrite it, redefine it, etc etc.

    I guess ANYONE can do this. Is there a version of the bible being written to suit murderers yet ? Maybe one suited for demonic people like Hitler and Countess Bathory ? ... nevermind you say ? It's written for EVERYONE THE WAY IT IS ?!?!

    bUT ......

    Everyone should have their own "version" shouldn't they ?

    Or are "gays" special ?

    Yes, "gays" are very special

    Homosexuals now have their own translation of the Bible.


    There have been efforts to change the Bible before, but now an independent publisher has produced the LGBT-friendly "Queen James Bible." Based on the King James translation, it makes issues of homosexuality and sexual immorality "deliberately more vague" by eliminating or altering wording that condemns homosexuality.



    Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality (AFTAH) has some thoughts on the homosexual-friendly translation.

    "Homosexuals basically are desperate to cover up their sin, to rationalize their sin. And if they have to, they'll try to physically remove it from the Word of God," he poses.

    "The problem is the Word of God is what the Word of God is; you can't edit out whatever sin you happen to be beset with. And that's exactly what these guys are trying to do -- they don't want to have it called a sin, but it is a sin."


    LaBarbera says homosexuals will not be the only ones buying into the Queen James Bible.

    "There's a very serious pro-gay so-called 'Christian' movement that is working non-stop trying to water down the Bible and Christianity as pertains to this one sin … which they're saying is not a sin," the AFTAH president tells OneNewsNow. "And so this is kind of laughable, but we have to take seriously the effort of homosexual activists and liberals to redefine the Word of God."



    Making the Bible 'deliberately more vague'

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    Gay Bible ... not a joke...

    Good, because it's not funny.

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      Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

      Originally posted by tsquare View Post
      Gay Bible ... not a joke...

      Good, because it's not funny.
      No, it's not funny at all.

      But this is what we get for encouraging dangerous and perverse behaviour and trying to make it be seen as "normal and acceptable" when it is anything but.

      This is what we get for allowing "homosexuals" to redefine the meaning of a human relationship that doesn't, and never WILL "include" them whether we allow them to play games with language and the legal system or not.

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        If Thomas Jefferson could do it, then why not gays? Serious question.

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          Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

          Originally posted by Jefe View Post
          If Thomas Jefferson could do it, then why not gays? Serious question.
          He had no business messing with it either. Nobody does.

          What is interesting really is how quickly "new versions" of the bible have been coming out in recent years. It is this that has probably encouraged gays into beleiving a version for THEM will be gladly accepted.

          And it probably WILL be !!

          Soon anyone can have their own personal edited version I suppose ... oh, nevermind ... that's what most people do with the book anyways

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            Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
            He had no business messing with it either. Nobody does.
            You mean except for King James messing with it, right?

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            • #7
              Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

              Originally posted by ThorHammer View Post
              You mean except for King James messing with it, right?
              No actually he/they made some messups too. There are versions that are accurate interpretations of the greek and hebrew.

              They're not always easy to find though. And they ARE nearly the same as king james work - not exactly though.

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                Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

                Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                Gay Bible ... not a joke...

                Good, because it's not funny.

                You're right, it's not funny. It's hilarious. Not the concept, but the reaction.

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                  Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

                  Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                  It is this that has probably encouraged gays into beleiving a version for THEM will be gladly accepted.

                  And it probably WILL be !!
                  Yeah.

                  I mean that I, for one, accept it.

                  Why not?

                  But I guess I really don't understand why they'd feel the need to.

                  When you get right down to it the Bible isn't expressly condemnatory of homosexuality.

                  In the Old Testament a couple places in Leviticus calls "lying with another man" toevah, or "ritually unclean", but elswhere the Bible calls eating pork, eating rare meat, and getting a shave and a haircut toevah.

                  When you get right down to it homosexuality, according to the words the Bible actually uses, is no more "sinful" than any number of things that Christians all over the world do every single day and to which they never give a second thought.

                  To their credit they haven't edited the Bible to remove the sins that they consider to be perfectly acceptable, but they do just ignore the Word of God with impunity when it suits them.

                  Have any of you gotten a haircut recently?

                  If so, in the eyes of God, you've sinned on par with a homosexual.

                  Now I guess I have to concede that Leviticus 18:22 does prescribe the death sentence for both men caught in an "unclean" homosexual coupling. There's no getting around that and there's no wiggle room in the translation.

                  But if you look elsewhere in the OT you see that the death sentence is also metted out for crimes as various as "picking up sticks on the Sabbath", adultery, and cursing your parents. We'll talk more about Jesus' take on adultery vis a vis his new covenant but here suffice it to say that anyone who has done any manual labor on a Saturday is as worthy of death as those dirty, dirty, little homosexuals.

                  Ever cursed your parents when they expect you to visit them on Christmas when it's actually the year you're supposed to be spending with your in-laws, and you really don't want to go to either because your kids are nagging you that they want to stay home to play with the toys that Santa brought them, but mom is giving you a guilt trip and you really don't want to hear her crying any more, but you know when you broach the subject to your wife she's going to get all pissed off because it's her family's year and "we were just at your parents place for Thanksgiving"?

                  So you're like, "Look, give me a break, you know what a pain in the ass my mother can be."

                  Yeah.

                  Right there.

                  You've done that. You know you have.

                  Off with your motherfucking head - sinner!

                  In the New Testament, at a couple places in Paul's letters, the word arsenokoitais is translated as "homosexual" or "sodomite" but since the concensus among ancient Greek scholars is that nobody really knows what arsenokoitais means there's really no way to know if this is what the Bible actually intends.

                  Since the literal (though not necessarially accurate) translation of arsenokoitais is "man with many beds" we should probably use the translation "male slut", or something like that, but again, we'd have no way of really knowing that that was the intended meaning.

                  What I like to do though, when I try to interpret anything related to the Bible, is to look to the actual life of Jesus, as related in the Gospels, for some sort of precedent that he may have set for how he'd actually like us to behave.

                  None of the Gospels mention homosexuality so we don't really have any idea how Jesus felt about it personally.

                  I think the best we can do is look at John, Chapter 8, to the story of the adulterous woman who is about to be stoned by the townspeople for breaking one of the 10 Comandments.

                  It's not homosexuality, right, but it is a sexual "sin" of much greater gravity (it's a violation of an actual Comandment) than an act like homosexuality that at worst is simply toevah, unclean.

                  If Jesus was all about "LETS FUCKING RAGE ON THE SEXUAL SINNERS!!!!!" you'd expect Him to pick up the first stone, no?

                  But He doesn't do that.

                  Instead, He tells the crown, "Let any one of you who is without sin cast the first stone".

                  Of course, nobody does, so he tells the woman, "Go and sin no more".

                  So I always find this discussion humorous in the fact that (ostensible) Christians, who engage in behaviors that the Old Testament considers just as "sinful" as homosexuality, get themselves all fired up over someone else's sexual sin when if they were to take an example from the life of their Lord and Savior they'd instead just go look in the mirror and say to themselves, "You know, when I shaved this morning I sinned against God just as gravely as the homosexual I'm about to condemn. Better I remove the beam from my own eye than I worry about the splinter in my brother's".
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                    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                    He had no business messing with it either. Nobody does.

                    What is interesting really is how quickly "new versions" of the bible have been coming out in recent years. It is this that has probably encouraged gays into beleiving a version for THEM will be gladly accepted.

                    And it probably WILL be !!

                    Soon anyone can have their own personal edited version I suppose ... oh, nevermind ... that's what most people do with the book anyways
                    *shrug* It's just a book.

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                      Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

                      Originally posted by Jefe View Post
                      If Thomas Jefferson could do it, then why not gays? Serious question.
                      I agree with what TJ did, as I see the value of it. The teachings of christ was what TJ kept, and that makes perfectly good sense to me. I figure that the teachings of God, straight from His mouth is the only importance. And the great value of it is that christ told us clearly what must happen in order to be saved. He was very clear on that. The rest of the bible to me is suspect anyways, being written by mortal man who is imperfect in all manner of ways. I never trusted what anyone else said in the bible. And for a christian, all that one really needs are the Teachings, straight from the horses mouth.

                      Honestly, I don't give much weight to what other men said about gays in the other parts of the bible. Or about slaves either. Or about God sending men to kill everything that moved as the Jews conquered. I don't believe in such a beastly God, and figure these men were doing as the radical muslims are doing. Justifying their actions because God told em to do it in their Book.

                      I cannot understand people who actually believe God cares about sexuality, and dooms his children to an everlasting torment because he hard wired them to be attracted to the same sex. The Creator doesn't play such dirty tricks upon man, IMO. That just doesn't make any sort of sense to me.

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                        Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

                        Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                        He had no business messing with it either. Nobody does.
                        I got ne2s for you captn, people have been rewriting the bible for a couple thousand years now.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                          I got ne2s for you captn, people have been rewriting the bible for a couple thousand years now.
                          I think I'll write my own version and remove the part that says you can't eat pork. Because, you know... BACON

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                            Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

                            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                            I agree with what TJ did, as I see the value of it. The teachings of christ was what TJ kept, and that makes perfectly good sense to me. I figure that the teachings of God, straight from His mouth is the only importance. And the great value of it is that christ told us clearly what must happen in order to be saved. He was very clear on that. The rest of the bible to me is suspect anyways, being written by mortal man who is imperfect in all manner of ways. I never trusted what anyone else said in the bible. And for a christian, all that one really needs are the Teachings, straight from the horses mouth.
                            I guess that the entire bible to you means nothing as Christ died 2,000 ago and has said nothing since. The closest "from the horses mouth" any of us will come are those things directly inspired by the Holy Spirit.[quote]

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                              Re: Gay Bible ... not a joke

                              Originally posted by Jefe View Post
                              If Thomas Jefferson could do it, then why not gays? Serious question.
                              You beat me to that question.

                              What about all the translations out there? They change the wording or should Christianity go the way of Islam where they only use it in its original language?

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