Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules - You must read(Updated!)

DISCLAIMER

You agree to NOT use this site or its affiliated sites, services you may have access to as a result of being a member here (subscriber or otherwise), to post items (images, textual material, etc.) that are pornographic in nature, illegal in the United States and/or the country you reside in, support or encourage illegal activities (e.g., terrorism), advertise for your own personal profit, or send unsolicited messages (i.e. SPAM) to members or non-members.

AND

You agree that if any clause or component of this document is found to not be legally binding in a court of law of proper jurisdiction then the remainder of this document shall remain fully binding and in full force.

AND

You agree to NOT hold Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. (makers of the forum software), uspoliticsonline.com, sites affiliated with uspoliticsonline.com, its administrators, its moderators, others associated with its operation, and its owners liable for any and all of the following (in whole or in part):
Personal insults/attacks by other members.
The content posted by other members, whether directed at you personally or a label/classification you associate with. This includes remarks you consider to be libelous or slanderous in any way.
Any financial or time loss due to your participation here or as a result of something you read at this site, including posts/PMs by other members and feature(s)/software available at the domain uspoliticsonline.com.
The dissemination of any personal information about you as a result of either your negligence (e.g. staying logged into a computer that others have access to) or willingness to post such information on a public and or private forum, private message or chat box. This includes using your real name or other details that could allow other members and/or the general public to determine your true identity. You are prohibited from using your real name on these forums, either as your username or in posts / PMs you write.

FORUM RULES, IN ADDITION TO THE DISCLAIMER

1. These rules apply to all sections of USPOL, including public and private forums, blogs, and visitor messages.

2. You cannot attack and/or personally insult someone. You cannot bait other forum members; this includes referring to posters by derogatory terms. Please, remain courteous and respectful to all forum members at all times. You agree to take responsibility for reporting such posts when you come across them. Please, use the ignore feature if need be. Any member who intentionally and continually posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response, or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion, may be regarded as a troll by staff, and have their account suspended or banned.

3. You cannot harass (sexually or otherwise) other members. This includes malicious, slanderous, or defamatory comments. If you are not sure if something you write is inappropriate or not then don't say it. Err on the side of caution.

4. Copying and Pasting Articles, and Starting New Threads. You cannot simply cut and paste in posts or when starting threads. You MUST provide the identifying information (source, author, date, and URL). You must also offer some original thoughts along with the cut and paste. You may copy and paste an excerpt or series of excerpts from the article. Excerpts really shouldnt be more then a paragraph or two. Furthermore, if you use images or other copyrighted material in your posts or signature you must have permission of the copyright holder unless you know for a fact that the image is in the public domain. In addition:
a. It must include the identifying information; e.g., where available, the author, the publication, the date, the URL.
b. The member must offer some context, including: How did you hear of this article? What is your opinion? Why is it important to you? Why should it be important to forum readers? The more context you provide, the more you assist others in gauging the excerpted information's significance.
c. You may copy and paste an excerpt or series of excerpts, not the whole thing or even the majority of the whole thing to encourage people to read the entire article.

A violation of any of the above will result in the deletion or closing of the post or thread and could earn you a warning or suspension. If you have any questions concering any of the above please PM a moderator and we will be happy to clarify.

5. You cannot post the same thing in multiple forums. You must not open similar threads about the same or a similar topic. You cannot spam the board or send unsolicited messages to members via PM, email or any other means.

6. Do not post off-topic. You cannot derail a thread with off topic posts.

7. You cannot shout in posts. This includes posting in all CAPS, bold, lIkE tHiS, and extra large font. Posts should also be one color, although you may use an additional color for highlighting ideas you wish to address.

8. You may not alter quotes in a way that misrepresents what was originally said.

9. Multiple accounts are not allowed. If you are found to have more than one account all accounts will be permanently terminated.

10. You cannot have a user name, avatar, signature, or post images that are deliberately offensive. That includes the display of overly explicit or graphic images that may not be suitable for minors.

11. Signatures can not have more than three lines of text, with a font size no larger than "4", and no more than two font colors. Images in signatures cannot be any larger than 800 pixels wide x 200 pixels tall. Animated images are not allowed.

12. You are prohibited from taking any action to disturb the use of the services by others, distribute material that contains viruses, spyware or any other malicious code or harmful programs. This includes interfering with the working of the network, attempts to gain unauthorized access to a service or other computer systems that are part of the site or any other site, by use of the available services.

13. Discussion of moderation actions in public and/or private forums is not permitted. Moderation actions include warnings, suspensions and the editing or deletion of posts. If a member has a concern about a moderation action, he or she is invited to address it with the board staff via Private Message. This rule exists to protect the privacy of all posters with regards to disciplinary action. The moderator team will never publicly discuss the warnings/suspensions of any posters, and we ask that you return the favor, whether about yourself or another poster. Posting about moderation actions in the public forums constitutes a violation. You are free to discuss a moderation action via Private Message with the moderator involved, but you may not harass or abuse the moderators (as already specified in the forum rules). In practical terms, this means that once a moderator tells you his or her decision is final, no further PMs about that moderation action are permitted. If you have a concern about a moderation action, you are free to appeal to a Forum Administrator via Private Message. You may only discuss moderator activities or discussion of moderation with staff member if you chose to private message and are not under any circumstances allowed to use the PM function to forward or promote moderator discussion in regards to specific forum action, amongst other regular members. Administrators do reserve the right to read said PMs and may do so ; if that results in discovery of messaging between posters of such moderator discussion then it will lead to the same violation being received for discussing said moderator actions on the forum. If you receive a message to the effect of having been given moderator information, please report it to a member of staff. Engaging back in that discussion with the original violator will earn you just as stiff a sanction.

14. Do not ignore moderators or administrators. Do not repost something a moderator or administrator has deleted. You cannot have moderators or administrators on your ignore list.

15. Only post in English. Short passages in foreign languages may be acceptable if its use seems helpful for the ongoing discussion and when there is no indication of a potential violation of the forum rules. Always provide a translation into English in such cases. In case of doubt, the incident will be regarded as a violation, no matter of the actual meaning of the foreign language text.

16. The use of words/comments etc. written by other posters, without approval of the poster in your personal signature is not allowed nor are references, by name, to other posters allowed.

17. Please pay attention to announcements by Forum staff that will be found in the "Welcome! / News & Announcements" forum from time to time.

18. Use of "liar", "lies", "lying", etc. Accusing someone of being a "liar" or similar accusations towards other posters will generally be regarded as implying an insult and therewith as a violation of the forum rules. "I question the validity of your statement because...", "That's not the truth" or "you are wrong about that" are sufficient for any decent discussion if you want to disagree with somebody's assertions.

19. Thread opening restriction for new members. In order to control SPAM, new members must have moderator approval to start their own threads.

20. Thread titles must relate to the discussion within. Do not make misleading titles, or titles such as "Guess what..." or "You'll never believe this...". Members need to be able to identify the general gist of the thread via the title. Profanity in thread titles is not permitted.

21. Forum members are instructed to use forum tools and abilities for their intended purposes and no other. If members identify a forum glitch or weakness of any kind that allows you to see or do something you know you shouldn't, please report it. Being aware of any unintended access to the Forum and failing to take appropriate steps to notify staff of said access issues, will create a presumption of seeking to take advantage of the issue, will result in either account suspension, or banishment.

22. Any link to a site that contains graphic content, must contain a warning describing what a person might reasonably expect to view if they click on said link. No graphic pictures are to be posted on the Forum.

23. Threats or advocations of violence toward a public figure, or member of the Forum, will not be tolerated. Conversation about revolution or the like is not prohibited by this rule; directly calling for violence is, eg It's time to kill every <redacted> that voted for the bill, is not permitted.

24. Accounts with no posts will be deleted after 30 days. Inactive accounts with low post histories may be deleted after one year.

25. Private forums are something offered to members that decide to contribute directly to this site via donations. These donations help immensely in keeping this site up and running. Private forums are designed to allow the contributing member discuss whatever he/she wants to and to have the power to direct that discussion in whatever way he/she chose. They were not designed nor are they intended for simply talking trash about members that don't have access to the forum. While the targeted members cannot see the forum or the comments, it creates a negative atmosphere that really isn't necessary. If you want to totally rip apart ideas, ideologies, political parties, etc. that is fine. We simply ask that you don't use the private forums as a means to attack other members that aren't privy to such comments. It is difficult enough to have a political discussion forum because the discussion of politics is inherently heated as people are so passionate about their beliefs...the ones that take the time to come to such a site in the first place at least. The idea of private forums is so people of similar political persuasions can discuss whatever they want without fear of being attacked. Nonetheless, we hope that a certain level of maturity would foster itself within such an arena and not simply lend itself to a bashing forum.

Private Forums are governed by all of the above Forum rules. In addition:
  • Private forums that essentially become abandoned homes will be subject to deletion, donation or reorganization. Just like elsewhere in life, clubs sometimes lose their vitality and purpose for a myriad of reasons. If it becomes clear that a private forum has clearly lost its vitality and nobody is going to really use it anymore, owners are advised to consider whether to reuse the forum for something new and productive rather than let them linger or notify the Administration that the forum should be rearranged for other purposes, closed, merged with other compatible private forums, donated to others for new purposes, etc. Do not be concerned that your forum must be a membership and post count race with others to avoid falling under this policy; the question is whether your forum has actual vitality instead of being 'brain dead.'
  • Additionally, private forums may only be owned by subscribed members in the Platinum or Diamond categories.
  • Should the owner of a private forum be banned, quit USPOL or otherwise abandon the forum the PF will be transferred to another owner or closed.
  • Propriety of private forums. Administration staff will determine the desirability of a proposed private forum and enact any conditions upon it to ensure its purpose is productive.
  • Any and all instances of sharing accounts by allowing someone else to log in under their own account so they can see into private forums for which they are otherwise not permitted to access, will be deemed violation of the double account rule and all caught doing so will be permanently banned.
  • Relaying private forum posts and information to other posters who are not members of the particular private forum for any negative or destructive purpose (eg mean-spirited gossip, fueling interpersonal disputes, etc), is not permitted, and will constitute a violation of the Forum rules.
  • For purposes of monitoring USPOL Terms of Service Administrative staff (not Moderators) will have access to Private Forums.
  • All Private Forums must have at least one active Administrator as a member for purposes of handling issues which cannot be addressed through moderation permissions.
  • Discussion of moderation activities is prohibited on the open site and is likewise prohibited in Private Forums.

26. The administrators and moderators reserve the right to edit and/or delete a post,and/or close a thread, and/or delete a thread at any time if of the opinion that the post is too obscene, inappropriate, or the discussion has run its course.

27. 'Back seat moderating' is not allowed. If you take issue with another poster's contribution to the forum, you're welcome to report any posts you think are out of line, but you should not bring it up publicly within the forum.

28. Images in posts (whether embedded or hot linked) must be reasonable in size. 800x800 should be considered a good rule of thumb. Excessively large images make it difficult for users on mobile devices to load pages. If necessary please simply link to very large images using the URL tags. In addition, the following images are not permitted (including, but not limited to pages with images or videos containing):
  • Strategically covered nudity
  • Sheer or see-through clothing
  • Lewd or provocative poses
  • Close-ups of breasts, buttocks, or crotches

29. Any solicitation or communication involving sports betting / gambling / online casinos / bookies and or internet based card or slot machine systems or sites will lead to all said content being physically removed from the site and server, and will lead to any and or all parties involved being permanently removed and banned from the site to the farthest extent possible. This includes any links to any form of bookmaker, casino, any type of game or match or event where money transfers on the outcome or link of any sort to wire act violations and or anything in violation of either the Internet Gambling Regulation, Consumer Protection, and Enforcement Act, Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006, or the Federal wire Act. This applies not only to the open forum but all and or any chat rooms, articles, private messages and or private forums. All content that violates this rule will be deleted, without notice.

CONSEQUENCES

Failure to comply with any of the forum rules may result in your posts being edited or deleted and/or your account being temporarily or permanently banned from the forums. U.S. Politics Online uses a warning system that generates an automated Private Message to members when they are in violation of Forum rules. The decision to issue a warning is left to the discretion of the moderator or administrator handling the violation. If a member does not agree with an action taken by a moderator, they can appeal to an administrator after seeking clarification from the moderator who issued the warning/infraction and appealing to them in the first instance. Members MAY NOT harass a moderator or administrator by sending excessive PMs when they are discussing an appeal.

Violations are assigned a point value. Points are valid for 30 days. When a members earns 10 points, their account will be automatically suspended: five (5) days for a first suspension; ten (10) days for a second suspension; and twenty (20) days for a third suspension. If a member incurs an additional 10 points after having served three periods of suspension, then they will be permanently banned from the Forum.

Point values are as follows:
Zero (0) points Warning
Two (2) points - Minor infraction / Non post infraction (minor) / Off topic posts / spamming
Four (4) points - Academic dishonesty / Baiting / Discussing moderator or administrator actions / Implying an insult / Minor insults / Moderate infraction / Non-post infraction (moderate) / Thread dumping
Six (6) points - Direct insult at another member / major infraction / Non-post infraction (major)
Ten (10) points - Act of criminality, or advocating thereof

The administrators and moderators also bear the right to issue warnings, temporarily suspend or ban posters for continued trolling or other serious misconduct (eg. professional spamming) even if the poster has not yet reached the maximum warning points or suspensions level. Other options if the above consequences do not seem adequate include placing the member in a moderation queue, which means all posts will have to be approved before they are posted to the board.

PRIVACY POLICY

All information obtained by the end user via the registration process is for internal purposes only and will not be sold to or shared with any third parties. However, if the end user participates in illegal activities and a court of proper jurisdiction orders U.S. Politics Online to release certain information about said user then we will act according to the law. Furthermore, no information will be released on threat of a lawsuit, attempted or actual intimidation, or due to any other reason except as notated in the first sentence of this paragraph. Nonetheless, keep in mind that the information we do have is very limited and generally only consists of the IP address a member uses.

SUBSCRIPTIONS

U.S. Politics Online offers several subscription plans to help cover the operational costs of the site. As a thank you for your donation, you will receive special added benefits meant to enhance your U.S. Politics Online experience. Plans vary in price, starting at only $0.05/day, and benefits vary with the price. Benefits include ability to go straight to new posts, to search the forum, larger avatar, private forums, invisible mode, photo gallery, email, web hosting, and no advertisement banners. Please, click here for more details.
See more
See less

Abortion USA

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Abortion USA

    First... people with low tolerance for graphic descriptions of babies being... well don't read this.

    Chloe... this means you.




    ====================

    So, you want abortion to be free and available in the old USA. You might also want it free to all women... including those as young as 12... babies themselves, and without their parents knowledge or consent.

    Okay... this is what you are asking for... no DEMANDING:

    Adrienne Moton, a former employee of Gosnell, testified for the prosecution. CBS Philadelphia reported her testimony:

    "Adrienne Moton broke down several times as she recounted her work at the clinic.

    Untrained, she says, she was doing ultrasounds and administering anesthesia within months. And eventually, she has admitted, she snipped the necks of a good ten fetuses.
    "Isolated?" Think again...

    However, if their fate was entirely foreseeable, it was not necessarily the product of specific intent to kill. The same cannot be said of untold numbers of babies not fetuses in the womb, but live babies, born outside their mothers whose brief lives ended in Gosnells filthy facility. The doctor, or his employees acting at his direction, deliberately killed them as part of the normal course of business.

    Gosnell and his staff severed the spinal cords of viable, moving, breathing babies who were born alive.

    Surgical abortions in Pennsylvania, performed up to 24 weeks of gestational age, are legal. Killing living babies outside the womb is not. The neonatologist who testified before the Grand Jury defined born alive. According to this expert witness, the federal Born-Alive Infants Protection Act defines a human as somebody whos been completely expelled from the mother and has either a heartbeat, pulsating cord, or is moving.

    Pennsylvanias Abortion Control Act defines born alive similarly, but adds breathing and brain wave activity as indicators of life. 18 Pa.C.S. 3203.

    Gosnells staff testified about scores of gruesome killings of such born-alive infants carried out mainly by Gosnell, but also by employees Steve Massof, Lynda Williams, and Adrienne Moton. These killings became so routine that no one could put an exact number on them. They were considered standard procedure. Yet some of the slaughtered were so fully formed, so much like babies that should be dressed and taken home, that even clinic employees who were accustomed to the practice were shocked.
    Just to be clear...

    After the baby was expelled, Cross noticed that he was breathing, though not for long. After about 10 to 20 seconds, while the mother was asleep, the doctor just slit the neck, said Cross. Gosnell put the boys body in a shoebox. Cross described the baby as so big that his feet and arms hung out over the sides of the container. Cross said that she saw the baby move after his neck was cut, and after the doctor placed it in the shoebox.

    Gosnell told her, its the babys reflexes. Its not really moving.
    THAT is abortion my friends. (BTW: that was "Baby Boy A" there is a photo of him, in his shoebox, on page 102 of the Grand Jury report.)

    True... many abortions are done much earlier, at 4,8,12, or even 16 weeks.

    All of them end a life.

    "Everyone" was "outraged" over children killed at Newtown. I say this is no less outrageous.

    If you got this far, I hope you enjoyed our little 'commercial' for Roe v Wade and 40 years of legal abortion.





    Kermit Gosnell on Trial for Abortion "House of Horrors" | SBA-List

    http://www.phila.gov/districtattorne...ensMedical.pdf

  • #2
    Re: Abortion USA

    Sounds more like a sick, sadistic fetish than abortion.
    I don't care off it's "legal", you've got to be one sick-a$$ fvk to commit murder in this fashion.

    ?


    • #3
      Re: Abortion USA

      Pure evil. Nothing more.

      ?


      • #4
        Re: Abortion USA

        Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
        Sounds more like a sick, sadistic fetish than abortion.
        I don't care off it's "legal", you've got to be one sick-a$$ fvk to commit murder in this fashion.
        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
        Pure evil. Nothing more.
        You guys won't get any argument out of me...

        ?


        • #5
          Re: Abortion USA

          If we can't outlaw abortion, I think all state sponsored abortions should be videotaped and stored by law. If I am going to pay for it, I should have proof that I'm not supporting murder.

          ?


          • #6
            Re: Abortion USA

            Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
            Sounds more like a sick, sadistic fetish than abortion.
            I don't care off it's "legal", you've got to be one sick-a$$ fvk to commit murder in this fashion.
            Well...children are dismembered in the womb. Literally torn limb from limb while still alive...then vacuumed out. Think that's any better?

            That btw, is a standard practice for abortions.

            I don't have a single problem with a woman who makes the choice to have the procedure done. First however...they need to watch exactly what happens in the process, and then get to watch the video ultrasound of their child's death.

            If they can live with that, go for it. They won't be able to say they don't know what that "choice" was.

            ?


            • #7
              Re: Abortion USA

              Originally posted by 9aces View Post
              Well...children are dismembered in the womb. Literally torn limb from limb while still alive...then vacuumed out. Think that's any better?

              That btw, is a standard practice for abortions.

              I don't have a single problem with a woman who makes the choice to have the procedure done. First however...they need to watch exactly what happens in the process, and then get to watch the video ultrasound of their child's death.

              If they can live with that, go for it. They won't be able to say they don't know what that "choice" was.
              While your intentions are good with that, there is already a high occurrence of down the road emotional/psychological issues in women who make that choice. Having them see what the choice really entails would only ensure that more of them have problems later, imo.

              My hospital doesnt perform abortions and I dont know single OB doc that will perform them [oddly, not a one of them is religious] but Ive assisted in countless clean-ups after miscarriages where we remove very small human beings from the mothers uterus.

              Typically, the contents of the uterus is sucked out and then whatever is left is scrapped out with the occasional very small body part coming out. Cleaning up after a miscarriage [D&C in medical jargon] is essentially the same procedure as an abortion except you suck out a living being in the latter instance.

              Youre right about one thing, though. If more women [and voters and Supreme court justices] witnessed with their own two eyeballs what an abortion actually entails, there would be less of them.

              Which is exactly why the abortion industry, and their many advocates, would try and prevent that from happening.

              ?


              • #8
                Re: Abortion USA

                It is to our everlasting shame and disgrace that we will never stop abortion in this country. It was legalized in a sham presentation to the Supreme Court who made an erroneous judgement based on irrelevant or false information.

                I am absolutely pro-choice! I absolutely defend a woman's right to choose whether or not to have unprotected sex. There is, today, no such thing as a "mistake" pregnancy. We know with near 100% surety what causes pregnancy and if you don't want a child, then don't DO that. IF you feel you MUST do that, then use one of the readily available protective mechanisms and hope you avoid pregnancy.

                "Sex" is not a biological mandate. You can survive without it. IF you have sex, THEN you can become pregnant. The consequences of the act are knowable. Over 98% of all abortions performed where the woman has given a reason for her decision to abort are done for some reason OTHER than "rape" or "possible mortality of the mother." That means reasons given are insecurity, vanity, or economics (all of which are also knowable before having sex).

                Those statistics leave little room to doubt that abortion is a way they think will relieve them of the consequences of their free will.

                ?


                • #9
                  Re: Abortion USA

                  I am shocked a progressive hasnt came in this thread yet and said we all must support rape cause we think abortion is killing a life....

                  ?


                  • #10
                    Re: Abortion USA

                    Originally posted by tsquare View Post
                    First... people with low tolerance for graphic descriptions of babies being... well don't read this.

                    Chloe... this means you.
                    Thanks for the sensitivities, its kind of you to show appreciation to the sensitivities of this issue.

                    I am not really too unnerved by this more than any other form of abortion given i find all forms of life destruction in the womb to be barbaric but i will try and avoid most of this thread / skim the graphic nature if possible. (Will throw out a bunch of rep and likes to the rest of you, though).

                    ?


                    • #11
                      Re: Abortion USA

                      Originally posted by thanatos144 View Post
                      I am shocked a progressive hasnt came in this thread yet and said we all must support rape cause we think abortion is killing a life....
                      The day is young lol.

                      To Goodone's point about choice: Abortion is almost always the worst of the two choices. Sadly, it is the women who make the choice that are left to deal with the down the road emotional consequences.

                      They better than anyone, can see through the lies and propaganda which posit that the human fetus is a blob of cells or the moral/ethical equivalent of an appendix.

                      ?


                      • #12
                        Re: Abortion USA

                        All that this nation has done is to make legal the taking of a human life, and one that never killed anyone.

                        Then to try to change the fact that we allowed someone to legally kill another human, we draw arbritrary lines of what is and what isn't a human life. Intellectual judo as a defense. This defense serves to sooth the conscience of those that actually have one. But they are guilty of the greatest self deception, and upon that deception they build their houses. But that foundation is of sand as they scream concrete!

                        We stopped valuing human life when we moved to the dark side, and so no human life is safe today from the wishes of a particular group of humans. All it takes is another set of arbitrary lines. Our citizens are no longer safe as they drive to the grocery store and get hit by someone who is running from the cops, and who the cops are chasing and have no value for human life. Because if they did, they would not put innocent citizens at risk to lose their lives. To protect and serve, my ass! They don't value your life so they will avidly and eagerly put others at risk in order to catch a guy who didn't have a drivers license.

                        The fact is, when you no longer value the life of a fetus, you don't value other life either. The only question is, what life will we not value tomorrow? Pandora's Box is already wide open.

                        ?


                        • #13
                          Re: Abortion USA

                          Originally posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
                          The day is young lol.

                          To Goodone's point about choice: Abortion is almost always the worst of the two choices. Sadly, it is the women who make the choice that are left to deal with the down the road emotional consequences.

                          They better than anyone, can see through the lies and propaganda which posit that the human fetus is a blob of cells or the moral/ethical equivalent of an appendix.
                          Thank you, Darth. I did not intend to leave out the emotional consequences or the psychological consequences almost all women who have an abortion experience (whether or not they will acknowledge it as such). It has been my experience arguing this very point that those predisposed to support any level of abortion will routinely disavow that any such consequences exist. I've looked for research but cannot fund much to support my position so I have developed the habit of leaving that out of my argument.

                          However, if anyone DOES have access to some research into the emotional/psychological consequences of abortion, I would greatly appreciate being able to add it back into my argument.

                          ?


                          • #14
                            Re: Abortion USA

                            Originally posted by Good1 View Post
                            Thank you, Darth. I did not intend to leave out the emotional consequences or the psychological consequences almost all women who have an abortion experience (whether or not they will acknowledge it as such). It has been my experience arguing this very point that those predisposed to support any level of abortion will routinely disavow that any such consequences exist. I've looked for research but cannot fund much to support my position so I have developed the habit of leaving that out of my argument.

                            However, if anyone DOES have access to some research into the emotional/psychological consequences of abortion, I would greatly appreciate being able to add it back into my argument.
                            I did a quick Google search and found a study which supports the contention that women who undergo abortions are at greater risk for emotional disorders than those who undergo appendectomies or ingrown toenail removals. If I wasn't on my phone I'd post the link for you lol.

                            It's one of those deals where science lags behind common sense. Sort of like doing a study to see if lightening strikes really are associated with thunder storms.

                            ?


                            • #15
                              Re: Abortion USA

                              Originally posted by Darth Hussein Omar View Post
                              I did a quick Google search and found a study which supports the contention that women who undergo abortions are at greater risk for emotional disorders than those who undergo appendectomies or ingrown toenail removals. If I wasn't on my phone I'd post the link for you lol.

                              It's one of those deals where science lags behind common sense. Sort of like doing a study to see if lightening strikes really are associated with thunder storms.
                              Having been through an appendectomy, I do not appreciate you making light of it. I brought my appendix home, named it, had my children caress it for a while, before we gave it a tearful burial in the back yard. To this day, I still break down crying at the thought of poor Dixie.

                              Anyway...

                              There's a fair amount of evidence out there that women generally do fine with abortions and often times the feelings are positive and empowering. One study, for instance, found that "Rates of total reported psychiatric disorder were no higher after termination of pregnancy than after childbirth" (Termination of pregnancy and psychiatric morbidity.).

                              And let's not forget, there are also sometimes powerfully negative psychological effects associated with a live birth (post-partum depression).

                              ?

                              Working...
                              X