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  • Originally posted by redrover View Post

    I think you need to go back to your dictionary and look up the definition of baby.
    baby

    [bey-bee]

    Spell SyllablesSee more synonyms on Thesaurus.com noun, plural babies.

    1. an infant or very young child.
    2. a newborn or very young animal.
    3. the youngest member of a family, group, etc.
    4. an immature or childish person.
    5. a human fetus.

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/baby?s=t

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    • Originally posted by redrover View Post

      I think you need to go back to your dictionary and look up the definition of baby.
      Since we're in the "Education in America" thread, I'll explain the relevance of dictionary, in multiple ways for comprehension purposes.

      *...Usage of words are not created from a dictionary. A dictionary is created from the usage of words.
      *...When people begin to reference a word with a specific meaning, the meaning is added to a dictionary to assist others in understanding how that word is being used by others.
      *...A dictionary is merely a guide/tool to allow people to communicate while understanding what the other is saying.
      *...A dictionary and author of, does not create words to be used in the fashion that the author decides. A dictionary and the author of, explains how people are using the word.
      *...If a definition of a word is in a dictionary, it confirms the meaning. If a definition for a word is not in a dictionary, it doesn't rule out a meaning.
      So it's foolish to think one is sitting on a high horse of intellect if one claims that an author of a dictionary is the authority of definitions, and if the author doesn't add a meaning to a word, that is commonly used, that the meaning does not exist.

      Here's an example for the usage of the word "Gay"

      * The words original meaning meant something to the effect of joyful, carefree, full of mirth, or bright and showy.
      * the early parts of the 17th century, the word began to be associated with immorality.
      * Oxford dictionary definition at the time, the meaning of the word had changed to mean addicted to pleasures and dissipations.
      * the 19th century and the word gay referred to a woman who was a prostitute and a gay man was someone who slept with a lot of women

      * Around the 1920s and 1930s, however, the word started to have a new meaning. In terms of the sexual meaning of the word, a gay man no longer just meant a man who had sex with a lot of women, but now started to refer to men who had sex with other men.
      * By 1955, the word gay now officially acquired the new added definition of meaning homosexual males. Gay men themselves seem to have been behind the driving thrust for this new definition as they felt (and many still do), that homosexual is much too clinical, sounding like a disorder. As such, it was common amongst the gay community to refer to one another as gay decades before this was a commonly known definition (reportedly homosexual men were calling one another gay as early as the 1920s). At this time, homosexual women were referred to as lesbians, not gay. Although women could still be called gay if they were prostitutes as that meaning had not yet 100% disappeared.
      http://www.todayifoundout.com/index....an-homosexual/


      COMMONLY USED TERMS:
      Said: The woman is carrying a baby.
      NOT said: The woman is carrying a fetus.
      Said: I lost the baby. NOT said: I lost the fetus.
      Said: I felt the baby kick. NOT said: I felt the fetus kick.
      Said: I have two babies in here. NOT said: I have two fetus' in here.
      Said: A woman with a baby. NOT said: A woman with a fetus.
      Said: Here's a the Sonogram of my baby. NOT said: here's the sonogram of my fetus.
      Said: Do you know what sex the baby is? NOT said: Do you know what sex the fetus is?

      As per society's verbalized reference to the word baby, the word baby means fetus.

      A fetus IS a BABY.
      Last edited by msc; 05-29-2017, 07:53 AM.

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      • Funny story!

        Why I used the word "gay" as an example.

        Early on in a book, it said: "The people were gay and liked to party."

        In 6th grade, my daughter read an entire book believing that everyone was homosexual. Think it was The Great Gatsby.

        Now perhaps she would have been well advised to look up the definition of the word "gay". There she would have learned that there is an alternate definition to the word "gay" as described in a dictionary, confirming the usage of the word to mean, "joyful" and "carefree", and not just homosexual as it's most often used these days.

        The dictionary is a handy tool for communication.
        Last edited by msc; 05-29-2017, 07:46 AM.

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        • Originally posted by msc View Post
          Since we're in the "Education in America" thread, I'll explain the relevance of dictionary, in multiple ways for comprehension purposes.

          *...Usage of words are not created from a dictionary. A dictionary is created from the usage of words.
          *...When people begin to reference a word with a specific meaning, the meaning is added to a dictionary to assist others in understanding how that word is being used by others.
          *...A dictionary is merely a guide/tool to allow people to communicate while understanding what the other is saying.
          *...A dictionary and author of, does not create words to be used in the fashion that the author decides. A dictionary and the author of, explains how people are using the word.
          *...If a definition of a word is in a dictionary, it confirms the meaning. If a definition for a word is not in a dictionary, it doesn't rule out a meaning.
          So it's foolish to think one is sitting on a high horse of intellect if one claims that an author of a dictionary is the authority of definitions, and if the author doesn't add a meaning to a word, that is commonly used, that the meaning does not exist.

          Here's an example for the usage of the word "Gay"

          * The words original meaning meant something to the effect of joyful, carefree, full of mirth, or bright and showy.
          * the early parts of the 17th century, the word began to be associated with immorality.
          * Oxford dictionary definition at the time, the meaning of the word had changed to mean addicted to pleasures and dissipations.
          * the 19th century and the word gay referred to a woman who was a prostitute and a gay man was someone who slept with a lot of women

          * Around the 1920s and 1930s, however, the word started to have a new meaning. In terms of the sexual meaning of the word, a gay man no longer just meant a man who had sex with a lot of women, but now started to refer to men who had sex with other men.
          * By 1955, the word gay now officially acquired the new added definition of meaning homosexual males. Gay men themselves seem to have been behind the driving thrust for this new definition as they felt (and many still do), that homosexual is much too clinical, sounding like a disorder. As such, it was common amongst the gay community to refer to one another as gay decades before this was a commonly known definition (reportedly homosexual men were calling one another gay as early as the 1920s). At this time, homosexual women were referred to as lesbians, not gay. Although women could still be called gay if they were prostitutes as that meaning had not yet 100% disappeared.
          http://www.todayifoundout.com/index....an-homosexual/


          COMMONLY USED TERMS:
          Said: The woman is carrying a baby.
          NOT said: The woman is carrying a fetus.
          Said: I lost the baby. NOT said: I lost the fetus.
          Said: I felt the baby kick. NOT said: I felt the fetus kick.
          Said: I have two babies in here. NOT said: I have two fetus' in here.
          Said: A woman with a baby. NOT said: A woman with a fetus.
          Said: Here's a the Sonogram of my baby. NOT said: here's the sonogram of my fetus.
          Said: Do you know what sex the baby is? NOT said: Do you know what sex the fetus is?

          As per society's verbalized reference to the word baby, the word baby means fetus.

          A fetus IS a BABY.
          Yes, and as I say here - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...504#post541504 - calling that baby something else to define away the fact that it's a human being we're talking about, allows us to kill "it,".....

          This game of definitions has been used forever by humans to justify killing others.

          It continues with legalized murder that we call "a womans right to choose" .... It's comical in a macabre way what we do, how we justify these things and the fact that people go along with them. We're like a herd animal.

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          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

            Yes, and as I say here - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...504#post541504 - calling that baby something else to define away the fact that it's a human being we're talking about, allows us to kill "it,".....

            This game of definitions has been used forever by humans to justify killing others.

            It continues with legalized murder that we call "a womans right to choose" .... It's comical in a macabre way what we do, how we justify these things and the fact that people go along with them. We're like a herd animal.
            I have a problem with the death penalty. If killing is wrong why is it alright for the state to do it. It's like the parent who wants to teach the kid tat hitting is wrong by beating the crap out of him. I know you rightests draw a fine distinction between innocent life and not so innocent life.

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            • Originally posted by redrover View Post

              I have a problem with the death penalty. If killing is wrong why is it alright for the state to do it. It's like the parent who wants to teach the kid tat hitting is wrong by beating the crap out of him. I know you rightests draw a fine distinction between innocent life and not so innocent life.
              It's evident that you're lying about being against the death penalty.

              You are pro-abortion, so obviously have no trouble with killing people - even the state sanctioning of it.

              As for your example of parents who: ".. teach the kid tat hitting is wrong by beating the crap out of him."

              ... poor parenting ...& criminal justice are different matters.

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              • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                I have a problem with the death penalty. If killing is wrong why is it alright for the state to do it. It's like the parent who wants to teach the kid tat hitting is wrong by beating the crap out of him. I know you rightests draw a fine distinction between innocent life and not so innocent life.
                Once you get the law changed how many of these unwanted children do you plan to adopt? Or do you expect the government will support them?

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                • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                  Once you get the law changed how many of these unwanted children do you plan to adopt? Or do you expect the government will support them?
                  Get what law changed ?

                  No law was ever made. The supreme court opined that a woman had a right to abort a pregnancy. That's all.

                  IF murdering babies becomes illegal, perhaps we will finally be sensible with our immigration laws and stop replacing our murdered offspring with illegal immigrants - those numbers actually even each other out, so if we stop one, we can also stop the other.

                  No "govt." support needed.

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                  • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    Get what law changed ?

                    No law was ever made. The supreme court opined that a woman had a right to abort a pregnancy. That's all.

                    IF murdering babies becomes illegal, perhaps we will finally be sensible with our immigration laws and stop replacing our murdered offspring with illegal immigrants - those numbers actually even each other out, so if we stop one, we can also stop the other.

                    No "govt." support needed.
                    Quite the plan you have there buster too bad it won't work. If you look at the abortion demographics you will see that most of the abortions are being had by poor women. If you really must have these innocent unwanted babies in the country. Prepare yourself to pay for them, with more welfare then more prisons. http://prospect.org/article/demograp...what-you-think

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                    • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      Quite the plan you have there buster too bad it won't work. If you look at the abortion demographics you will see that most of the abortions are being had by poor women. If you really must have these innocent unwanted babies in the country. Prepare yourself to pay for them, with more welfare then more prisons. http://prospect.org/article/demograp...what-you-think
                      We are doing exactly that with illegal immigrants and Democrats celebrate it.

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                      • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                        We are doing exactly that with illegal immigrants and Democrats celebrate it.
                        Captain Trips has volunteered to adopt three of these unwanted poor children promising to support them through college. How many can we sign you up for? Don't worry we won't make you take any black kids we will have lots of white trash for you to choose from.

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                        • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                          Captain Trips has volunteered to adopt three of these unwanted poor children promising to support them through college. How many can we sign you up for? Don't worry we won't make you take any black kids we will have lots of white trash for you to choose from.
                          Absolutely ! - race doesn't matter to me, I know you were hoping -winks-

                          And you're going to house 3 to 5 randomly selected immigrants from Syria until they're functional enough to stand on their own two feet and support themselves here in America.

                          Excellent plan we have.

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                          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            Yes, and as I say here - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...504#post541504 - calling that baby something else to define away the fact that it's a human being we're talking about, allows us to kill "it,".....

                            This game of definitions has been used forever by humans to justify killing others.

                            It continues with legalized murder that we call "a womans right to choose" .... It's comical in a macabre way what we do, how we justify these things and the fact that people go along with them. We're like a herd animal.
                            Very true. Fetus is used to define a developmental stage of a human being, no different from using the word infant to describe another stage.The word baby is used as a broader definition.

                            The only other time the word fetus is used when referring to a human being, other than to more specifically define a developmental stage, more so for clinical purposes, is when people want to pretend they're not killing a human. A human in the baby stage.

                            And lets also be aware that the words fetus, infant, baby, are also used to describe the developmental stages of other creatures as well. fetus, infant, baby, etc. do not define a specifies.

                            When killing a human species the fools, devious, and evil, use a developmental phase as if it changes the reality that they are killing a young human.

                            Perhaps our education system should have more of an emphasis on teaching biology.
                            Last edited by msc; 05-30-2017, 04:40 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by msc View Post

                              Very true. Fetus is used to define a developmental stage of a human being, no different from using the word infant to describe another stage.The word baby is used as a broader definition.

                              The only other time the word fetus is used when referring to a human being, other than to more specifically define a developmental stage, more so for clinical purposes, is when people want to pretend they're not killing a human. A human in the baby stage.

                              And lets also be aware that the words fetus, infant, baby, are also used to describe the developmental stages of other creatures as well. fetus, infant, baby, etc. do not define a specifies.

                              When killing a human species the fools, devious, and evil, use a developmental phase as if it changes the reality that they are killing a young human.

                              Perhaps our education system should have more of an emphasis on teaching biology.
                              Absolutely correct. A fetus is no less human than a newborn, a teenager, or an octogenarian. And, as above, when the libs realize they have lost that argument, they then switch to the "who will take care of them?" argument or the "it's better they are killed than raised in an unloving situation" argument, somehow thinking that justifies abortion.

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                              • Originally posted by msc View Post
                                Very true. Fetus is used to define a developmental stage of a human being, no different from using the word infant to describe another stage.The word baby is used as a broader definition.

                                The only other time the word fetus is used when referring to a human being, other than to more specifically define a developmental stage, more so for clinical purposes, is when people want to pretend they're not killing a human. A human in the baby stage.

                                And lets also be aware that the words fetus, infant, baby, are also used to describe the developmental stages of other creatures as well. fetus, infant, baby, etc. do not define a specifies.

                                When killing a human species the fools, devious, and evil, use a developmental phase as if it changes the reality that they are killing a young human.

                                Perhaps our education system should have more of an emphasis on teaching biology.
                                Only when it suits their current agenda !!

                                Otherwise, propaganda and manipulation of words.

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