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  • #16
    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
    More indoctrination, less education.

    Introducing Institutionalized Racism, Privilege and Social Justice in Physics Class


    http://missourieducationwatchdog.com...physics-class/
    Well, if they are teaching social justice, they have failed. For the income keeps moving to a few at the top, with 60 percent of middle class income finding a new home there, in the last few decades. Are the conservatives against social justice, and would rather Darwin's Jungle rule? It's called a jungle for a reason, for there is no civilization there, in those jungles, just dog eat dog.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

      Well, if they are teaching social justice, they have failed. For the income keeps moving to a few at the top, with 60 percent of middle class income finding a new home there, in the last few decades. Are the conservatives against social justice, and would rather Darwin's Jungle rule? It's called a jungle for a reason, for there is no civilization there, in those jungles, just dog eat dog.
      Like most other Democrat / Liberal / Progressive ideas and policies, it fails, and promptly creates a greater problem. Which, of course, starts the cycle all over again, leading to yet more and greater failures. When will they learn? When will they learn that despite their attempts to control and manipulate the market, that the hidden hand of the market will find away around their manipulations to achieving it's own imperative.

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      • #18
        Taxpayer-Funded U. Wisconsin Chancellor Spends Her Days Lobbying Alumni Against Scott Walker

        Blank, who was hired in 2013, collects a base salary of $495,000, plus various perks and benefits. The posh income puts Blanks squarely in the top one percent among all Wisconsin residents.
        The median income for a family of four in Wisconsin is $81,373, according to federal government data. Thus, Blank enjoys a salary $413,627 greater than the income of a typical Wisconsin nuclear family.
        About $100,000 of Blanks salary comes from privately-endowed funding sources. The remaining $395,000 is courtesy of Wisconsins taxpayers.
        As of 2012, Walkers salary was $144,423 well over $300,000 less than Blanks. (They work in the same city.)
        http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/22/ta...-scott-walker/

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        • #19
          Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

          Like most other Democrat / Liberal / Progressive ideas and policies, it fails, and promptly creates a greater problem. Which, of course, starts the cycle all over again, leading to yet more and greater failures. When will they learn? When will they learn that despite their attempts to control and manipulate the market, that the hidden hand of the market will find away around their manipulations to achieving it's own imperative.
          I don't think you can prove that. Any system that is such that income is more equally distributed, by WORK, will always provide a more stable society, with a large middle class. You really start to run into problems when so much income goes to the top, as in our Oligarchy, over the long haul. For then what happens is the gov't redistributes income, to address the problem of the system that is constructed to allow far too much of the income to go to the top dogs. A two class society in the 21st century will not stand, no more than it would stand for long in the past. And that sir, is a hard fact, proven by history. You will have a very hard time to argue against that, unless you start to distort and spin.

          In short, a sane economic model HAS to provide for as much of a society as possible. This is perennial wisdom, which of course the conservatives don't understand. They do not understand it because their ideological beliefs will trump reality, and then the problems begin. As you will see, if you are young enough to live another 40 years. Remember, BD tried to warn you. A great disparity in income, with the middle being hollowed out, will either lead to revolution or Socialism. You can not cut off much of the population from being able to thrive, and expect this condition will prevail over the long haul. And the sooner conservatives understand that, the better. For otherwise, conservatism will not survive going into the future.

          But understand, Modern Liberalism doesn't have the solution either. Old liberalism is the only thing that could provide the solution. The kind that concerned itself with economic interests of the People, not this liberalism that is only concerned with queers, abortions, anti religion, and race baiting. For that along with welfare is what defines modern liberalism today. Where in the past, it was much more moderate or even conservative on these issues, and primarily concerned with jobs for the majority in America, not the elites.

          We are living without a doubt under Neo Liberalism principles today, but don't let the "liberalism" in that term fool you into thinking its what most people see as liberalism. Instead it is Reaganomics, trickle down theory, which has been a disaster, for the end result was of course hollowing out the middle by seeking the cheapest labor possible in china to provide for our consumption.

          Like it or not, your idea of an economic model, this Neo Liberalistic model, is the most destructive thing this nation has suffered since prior to the great depression. And what your team has supported is basically a world without economic borders, which means a world without borders, which means a loss of national sovereignty, for that is what the elites, the oligarchs want in order to keep maxing out their own profits, on the backs of humanity. Which is the reason that your party, has been complicit in allowing the entry of millions of illegal labor, which also means the dem and the repub party are nothing more than two sides of the same oligarchal coin. Both parties are now owned by the oligarchs. And that is why whether a repub or a dem is in the oval office, in economic areas, they are indistinguishable. We need to call these so called new jobs, Oligarchy jobs, for they do not pay living wages. And this is NEW, at least since ww2.

          So, the irony is, you may as well be a dem, when it comes to economic policy, and the dems may as well be repubs.
          Last edited by Blue Doggy; 02-23-2015, 07:01 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
            I don't think you can prove that. Any system that is such that income is more equally distributed, by WORK, will always provide a more stable society, with a large middle class. You really start to run into problems when so much income goes to the top, as in our Oligarchy, over the long haul.
            Blue, I fear that you've bought the left's talking points, lock stock and barrel.
            The wealth of the world -- from all the global stock markets, insurance funds, and families -- comes out to about $200 trillion, according to the McKinsey Global Institute's new report on investors in developing nations. Who owns all that?
            Households, mostly. U.S. and Western European households own about one-quarter of the world's financial assets, according the rather remarkable chart produced by the authors, which breaks down wealth by type and geography. Here is that chart:
            The $200 Trillion World: Who Owns All the Wealth?
            US Household own the majority of the wealth. $27T Institutional investors almost 1/2 that, EU household a close $23T.

            So US households holding that much of the global financial wealth in the world is a bad thing? Seems that you think so, because you want to assault the mysterious and ill-defined Oligarchy boogie man by whatever government means at your disposal.

            And as we can see here, global poverty rate is coming down in a quite steadily and consistent rate.
            The World's 85 Richest People Are as Wealthy as the Poorest 3 Billion


            So what was you point again? Oh, right, you were talking about off shoring and out sourcing, and how it's decimated the US Households. Are you really sure about that?

            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
            For then what happens is the gov't redistributes income, to address the problem of the system that is constructed to allow far too much of the income to go to the top dogs. A two class society in the 21st century will not stand, no more than it would stand for long in the past. And that sir, is a hard fact, proven by history. You will have a very hard time to argue against that, unless you start to distort and spin.

            In short, a sane economic model HAS to provide for as much of a society as possible. This is perennial wisdom, which of course the conservatives don't understand. They do not understand it because their ideological beliefs will trump reality, and then the problems begin. As you will see, if you are young enough to live another 40 years. Remember, BD tried to warn you. A great disparity in income, with the middle being hollowed out, will either lead to revolution or Socialism. You can not cut off much of the population from being able to thrive, and expect this condition will prevail over the long haul. And the sooner conservatives understand that, the better. For otherwise, conservatism will not survive going into the future.

            But understand, Modern Liberalism doesn't have the solution either. Old liberalism is the only thing that could provide the solution. The kind that concerned itself with economic interests of the People, not this liberalism that is only concerned with queers, abortions, anti religion, and race baiting. For that along with welfare is what defines modern liberalism today. Where in the past, it was much more moderate or even conservative on these issues, and primarily concerned with jobs for the majority in America, not the elites.

            We are living without a doubt under Neo Liberalism principles today, but don't let the "liberalism" in that term fool you into thinking its what most people see as liberalism. Instead it is Reaganomics, trickle down theory, which has been a disaster, for the end result was of course hollowing out the middle by seeking the cheapest labor possible in china to provide for our consumption.

            Like it or not, your idea of an economic model, this Neo Liberalistic model, is the most destructive thing this nation has suffered since prior to the great depression. And what your team has supported is basically a world without economic borders, which means a world without borders, which means a loss of national sovereignty, for that is what the elites, the oligarchs want in order to keep maxing out their own profits, on the backs of humanity. Which is the reason that your party, has been complicit in allowing the entry of millions of illegal labor, which also means the dem and the repub party are nothing more than two sides of the same oligarchal coin. Both parties are now owned by the oligarchs. And that is why whether a repub or a dem is in the oval office, in economic areas, they are indistinguishable. We need to call these so called new jobs, Oligarchy jobs, for they do not pay living wages. And this is NEW, at least since ww2.

            So, the irony is, you may as well be a dem, when it comes to economic policy, and the dems may as well be repubs.

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            • #21
              Looks like Obamacare.com isn't the only example of incompetence in this Administration Another reason to do away with the Department of Education

              Student Loans: Rampant Fraud Affecting Millions of People

              A vast network of identity theft may have affected as many as 5 million people in order to get fraudulent student loans, reports Watchdog.

              In total, these thefts gave the fraudsters $187 million (over 36 percent of all loans) according to a 2013 report by the inspector general for the Department of Education.

              Well-organized fraud rings received all this money, and their numbers swelled from 18,000 people in 2009 to 34,000 in 2012. To date, the IG got back a mere $10.8 million less than 6 percent of the total amount.
              http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/04/st...ons-of-people/

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              • #22
                Is this;

                [.. writing the Common Core State Standards for English Language Arts in order to end white privilege. . ]

                ..a standard that should be considered when deciding how to best educate American children ?

                Writing a teaching standard based on "ending the privilege" of a group of peoples SKIN color is racist isn't it ?

                Shouldn't education standards be based on how to best teach kids things like math, english, science and history ?

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                Teacher admits he wrote Common Core to end white privilege



                A professor at Granite State College and chair of the history department at the Derryfield School in Manchester, New Hampshire admitted to writing the Common Core State Standards for English Language Arts in order to end white privilege. According to the response heard on the video, Dr. David Pook shocked the audience at an event at New Hampshire Institute of Politics when he made the following statement:


                "The reason why I helped write the standards and the reason why I am here today is that as a white male in society I am given a lot of privilege that I didnt earn[.]"

                ..............

                According to Dr. Pook, not all children have equal opportunity to learn to read. He never stated what advantages he, as a white male, had over other students. What specifically is prohibiting children from having equal opportunities to learn? What has changed over the past 50 years? Perhaps the real problem with public education is caused by liberalism.


                http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...rivilege_.html

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                • #23
                  As I said, it's indoctrination, not education.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                    As I said, it's indoctrination, not education.
                    Yes, it is obvious. Kids are taught what to think, not how to think.

                    Keep your kids out of our public indoctrination farms and they'll have a much better chance.

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                    • #25
                      Speaking of the failures of American education....

                      NM Students Democratically Vote For Communist Prom

                      The Lights.

                      The Decorations.

                      They're all important ingredients when it comes to cooking up the perfect prom. When it came time to pick a theme, seniors at Cottonwood Classical Preparatory School in New Mexico went online and voted.

                      And, the winner: Prom-unism.

                      That's right. The students voted for a communism-themed prom.

                      "We have a lot of jokesters in our grade, so they wanted it to be funny and a lot of them are really intense with politics and what not," senior Sarah Zachary said. "So they just came up with communism for some reason."

                      But, communism can conjure up some frightful images, which is not a joking matter for some students - who asked to remain anonymous.

                      "I would hope Cottonwood would realize the seriousness of having a very powerful and destructive idea as the theme for a prom," one student wrote. "While the seniors meant no harm in their choice of theme, it's not appropriate."

                      "Our students are in the international baccalaureate programs, so they are very academically focused. And, so, one of the classes they enjoy most is a world history class," Executive Director Sam Obenshain said.

                      Obenshain pointed out that despite the vote, the theme is not a done deal. He said that he plans to talk about the theme with students next week.

                      "We want to make sure we honor the students' voices, but at the same time we use this as a learning experience for them," he said.

                      At this point, he and many students aren't sure what prom-unism would even look like.
                      Not only is the ideology that killed 100 Million people in the 20th century not funny, the prom is about the most disgustingly bourgeois ritual on the planet. Which these kids would know if the people charged with instructing them could teach their way out of a wet paper bag.

                      The only way for the educators to redeem themselves is to teach the students demanding "promunism" the same lesson every unruly mob demanding communism has learned the hard way, by having to actually live it. They can have their prom, on the condition that everyone wears identical gray jumpsuits, only grainy martial music can be played, only red flags and propaganda posters can be used for decorations, only mangy bread, warm water, and raw turnips can be served as refreshments, the chaperons can smack them upside the head with the butt of a rifle without provocation, and they have to walk to the prom and then home again, without shoes.

                      If I where a Koch brother, I would offer to pay for that. You know, in the spirit of paying my fair share.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Commodore View Post
                        Speaking of the failures of American education....

                        NM Students Democratically Vote For Communist Prom



                        Not only is the ideology that killed 100 Million people in the 20th century not funny, the prom is about the most disgustingly bourgeois ritual on the planet. Which these kids would know if the people charged with instructing them could teach their way out of a wet paper bag.

                        The only way for the educators to redeem themselves is to teach the students demanding "promunism" the same lesson every unruly mob demanding communism has learned the hard way, by having to actually live it. They can have their prom, on the condition that everyone wears identical gray jumpsuits, only grainy martial music can be played, only red flags and propaganda posters can be used for decorations, only mangy bread, warm water, and raw turnips can be served as refreshments, the chaperons can smack them upside the head with the butt of a rifle without provocation, and they have to walk to the prom and then home again, without shoes.

                        If I where a Koch brother, I would offer to pay for that. You know, in the spirit of paying my fair share.
                        Interesting that.

                        I never have felt I missed out on anything by skipping the "prom."

                        Now I know why ! Thanks LOL

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                        • #27
                          Honestly the fear and hatred of communism in the US is interesting as it has zero chance to ever get a foothold but you guys act as if it's just about to take over just because some kids held a prom with a communist theme.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                            Honestly the fear and hatred of communism in the US is interesting as it has zero chance to ever get a foothold but you guys act as if it's just about to take over just because some kids held a prom with a communist theme.

                            We are incrementally headed towards Communism. Social Security was an initial step, Obamacare is another step, when the government controls what it takes from one and gives to another, it is a step towards Communism.

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                              Student Blasts Her Colleges Thought Police and Political Correctness Thats Reached the Level of Crazy

                              The real scandal at Michigan and similar schools isnt the use of particular words or slurs. Its the tendency of the politically correct police students, professors and administrators to shut down legitimate debate by silencing anyone who dares to commit what they consider a crime of speech or thought. []
                              http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...evel-of-crazy/

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post


                                We are incrementally headed towards Communism. Social Security was an initial step, Obamacare is another step, when the government controls what it takes from one and gives to another, it is a step towards Communism.
                                Taxation and then using taxes for things you do not like, isn't moving towards communism. Obamacare isn't communism, it's an oligarchy drive healthcare system, for the private sector makes billions from it. But I do agree what social security is socialistic in nature, but it occurs under a capitalistic frame work.

                                But Capitalism has a great problem and that problem basically dooms it, and it has no future in a modern, robot automated world. For it will not work without the source of income to buy what the machines make and provide in the service sector. It will be interesting to see what happens when most income producing jobs are no longer done by people. And the thing you hate so much, socialism, communism, will be the only thing that will work in such a world. Capitalism plus robotics and automation equals capitalism committing suicide. But necessity has always been the mother of invention, and we will invent an economic model that cannot be capitalistic, for capitalism will simply not work in such a world. The winds of progress and greater development in technology, cannot be reversed, and the only thing that will work under such a system is some form of socialism. It is ironic in a way. Greater technology allowed civilization to arise, and the socialism of the hunter gatherer societies died out to be replaced with a rich, poor, class system, and a greater technology today will push humanity back into what it first used for survival, a form of socialism. But this will work out fine, for man was a socialistic being for much longer than he has been a capitalistic being. So, it is probably in our genetic makeup, the ability to thrive in a socialistic paradigm.

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