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  • Originally posted by redrover View Post

    When in doubt why don't we just obey the law. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/27/us...pagewanted=all
    Under our constitutional scheme, declarations of the court were not intended to be given absolute deference as "law". Principles of separation of powers and basic federalism were enshrined...and most aptly articulated in Federalist No. 78 in pointing out that the Judiciary had "no influence over either the sword or the purse, ...It may truly be said to have neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment." For those not versed in basic principles of separation of power and having three "co-equal" branches, no one branch is supreme in its power. It was readily accepted that the other two branches ( when dealing with Federal issues) were free to disregard the rulings of the Judiciary (The Executive by refusing to enforce, the Legislative for refusing to Impeach and Remove the Executive for so refusing or to refuse to pass implementing legislation where it would be required to give effect to the courts ruling). States, also being sovereign, were free to ignore the courts, subject only to the possibility that the President would use force to enforce.

    In fact, the whole notion of "judicial review" is based on the notion that various laws (statutes and the Constitution) have fixed meanings, which are to be applied using what are known as the "canons of construction". The only basis the court has for striking down a statute, in part or in whole, is where it clearly conflicts with the fixed meaning of part f the Constitution. If the Constitution is not a document with a fixed meaning, than it is not the Judiciary which should be determining how it has changed, but rather the political branches which reflect the popular will.

    Gay Marriage is clearly not required by the Constitution, the Court merely decided it ought to be and changed the clear and historically understood meaning of the text to impose its political will.

    In fact, I wish MORE Republicans would challenge the legitimacy of the courts various rulings (there are virtually none except for your occasional crank local licensing supervisors who have), it is time to rediscover that the Judiciary was intended to be the LEAST powerful, not the Supreme branch.

    And given that the last Democratic President had as one of his signature "legacy" issues not only a refusal to enforce ACTUAL laws (immigration laws), but violated those laws by issuing unlawful work permits to people in this country illegally (already struck down for DAPA, and undoubtedly would be struck down for DACA for the same reasons) I hardly think that it is the Democrats who "when in doubt...just obey the law"...hell, they gleefully disobey (or encourage and facilitate violation) of the law when there IS NO DOUBT. Need some proof, just this week Nancy Pelosi applauded people for blatantly violating our clear (no issue of "when in doubt") immigration laws: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/...ldren-america/

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    • Here is a compelling argument for gay marriage. Even conservatives love this song because the frog goes courting with a sword and a pistol on his side the same way they went courting in their day I sing a version of this song on my hit album Grandpa's greatest Hits volume 1. I a frog can marry a mouse the door seems to be wide open https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9a8zCVxbFI

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      • Originally posted by redrover View Post
        Here is a compelling argument for gay marriage. Even conservatives love this song because the frog goes courting with a sword and a pistol on his side the same way they went courting in their day I sing a version of this song on my hit album Grandpa's greatest Hits volume 1. I a frog can marry a mouse the door seems to be wide open https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9a8zCVxbFI
        They got eaten by a snake. What does that tell you?

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        • Originally posted by Brexx View Post

          They got eaten by a snake. What does that tell you?
          When I Sang the song I never included that verse. The message I wanted my grandchildren to hear was love is where you find it. Little piece of cornbread on the shelf if you want any more you'll have to sing it yourself. How about a republican version where the frog shoots the snake?

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          • Originally posted by redrover View Post

            When I Sang the song I never included that verse. The message I wanted my grandchildren to hear was love is where you find it. Little piece of cornbread on the shelf if you want any more you'll have to sing it yourself. How about a republican version where the frog shoots the snake?
            You need to leave that verse in. That's where the moral is. Love may be where you find it, but you may love your gerbil but don't marry it. And these days parents also have to tell their little ones, if you have a penis you're a boy, no matter what they are telling you in kindergarten.

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            • Originally posted by Brexx View Post
              You need to leave that verse in. That's where the moral is. Love may be where you find it, but you may love your gerbil but don't marry it. And these days parents also have to tell their little ones, if you have a penis you're a boy, no matter what they are telling you in kindergarten.
              And this is what is truly scary. In today's America, little children can be made sexually confused by their 'educators' !!??

              Scary and sick.

              Truth & reality don't change no matter how we feel like changing them...just make us confused and unable to deal with or accept truth & reality.

              Which causes trouble...

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              'Homo-fascism' killed a GA Tech student ?

              This person ""lost their life at the hands of campus police during a mental health crisis."" according to homosexual-rights group GLAAD. ..and yet .... "A follow-up tweet from the group demanded better "mental health resources" for homosexuals..."

              .... they've "painted themselves into a corner" maybe ?

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              What ultimately killed Schultz, Barber says, is a culture of "homo-fascism" that celebrated an obviously mentally ill young man then blamed the cops who were forced to take his life.

              ..if a professor, school counselor, or a roommate would dare to link Schultz's sexuality with his lingering mental problems. To do so, he says, would bring the label "homophobe" and likely loss of a job.

              "No one dare challenge the new LGBT orthodoxy that says gender identity is a subjective thing," says Barber. "No," he adds, "they're struggling with a mental disorder."

              Schultz's father, Bill, told CBS News that his son was struggling with his sexual identity and has attempted to commit suicide.

              In a tweet that blamed law enforcement, homosexual-rights group GLAAD praised Schultz as an "LGBTQ campus organizer" at Georgia Tech who "lost their life at the hands of campus police during a mental health crisis."

              A follow-up tweet from the group
              demanded better "mental health resources" for homosexuals and more training for police officers to deal with the mentally ill.

              The irony of a demand for mental help is that homosexual activists arm-twisted the American Psychological Association to drop homosexuality as a mental illness four decades ago. In more recent years, APA softened its definition of transgenderism to from a disorder to "gender dysphoria" but refused to drop the term altogether.


              ..

              https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2...a-tech-student

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              • Originally posted by Brexx View Post

                You need to leave that verse in. That's where the moral is. Love may be where you find it, but you may love your gerbil but don't marry it. And these days parents also have to tell their little ones, if you have a penis you're a boy, no matter what they are telling you in kindergarten.
                What in the world do you think children are being told in kindergarten/?What is the moral of the song ? That big snakes eat frogs?OK You probably think it would have been a better story if the big bad wolf had eaten the three little pigs. After all republicans love eating pigs. They are tasty.

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                • The Good Cap'n said...

                  [QUOTE] irony of a demand for mental help is that homosexual activists arm-twisted the American Psychological Association to drop homosexuality as a mental illness four decades ago. In more recent years, APA softened its definition of transgenderism to from a disorder to "gender dysphoria" but refused to drop the term altogether[QUOTE]

                  Just wait, the APA have not corrupted the science enough, for they will normalized transgenderism too. They should have never folded on the homosexuality issue, but political correctness and the mentally ill trumped that field of science. Which I think has also happened with climatology, an even softer science than psychology. Let us hope classical physics and quantum physics isn't infected with this at some point as well. LOL

                  You could insure the rights of these sick people and still invest in research looking for treatment and a cure. These two mental illnesses are no different in principle than those sick people who have sex with animals. Those people are mentally ill as well, involving psycho sexual behavior and thinking. You would never have sex with an animal unless there was some sexual desire for the animal. We, or some of us, can see this is a mental illness, but not see it with homos or transgenders. And this is purely ideological, the belief in an ideology stops the discerning, rationally discerning.
                  Last edited by Blue Doggy; 09-22-2017, 09:46 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                    What in the world do you think children are being told in kindergarten/?What is the moral of the song ? That big snakes eat frogs?OK You probably think it would have been a better story if the big bad wolf had eaten the three little pigs. After all republicans love eating pigs. They are tasty.
                    The moral of the song is frogs are not supposed to marry mice. Boy frogs are supposed to marry girl frogs, and girl mice are supposed to marry boy mice. The kiddies will understand that if you don't.

                    What are kids being told? The same thing the transgender nutbars are telling everybody, that gender is all in your head and your body doesn't determine your gender.
                    Last edited by Brexx; 09-22-2017, 10:01 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Brexx View Post

                      The moral of the song is frogs are not supposed to marry mice. Boy frogs are supposed to marry girl frogs, and girl mice are supposed to marry boy mice. The kiddies will understand that if you don't.

                      What are kids being told? The same thing the transgender nutbars are telling everybody, that gender is all in your head and your body doesn't determine your gender.
                      If gender is all in your head, then so is reality. So, a person who is mentally ill and thinks his hands are trying to eat his face, or sees people who are not there and converses with them, then that is reality, our reality. Sorry cannot buy it. It does not pass the smell test which discerns absurdity.

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                      • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post

                        If gender is all in your head, then so is reality. So, a person who is mentally ill and thinks his hands are trying to eat his face, or sees people who are not there and converses with them, then that is reality, our reality. Sorry cannot buy it. It does not pass the smell test which discerns absurdity.
                        Absurdity is the word for it. The monkeys are no longer in the zoo, and the bugs are no longer in the bug-house.

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                        • Originally posted by Brexx View Post
                          Absurdity is the word for it. The monkeys are no longer in the zoo, and the bugs are no longer in the bug-house.
                          .....That's exactly right !

                          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                          If gender is all in your head, then so is reality. So, a person who is mentally ill and thinks his hands are trying to eat his face, or sees people who are not there and converses with them, then that is reality, our reality. Sorry cannot buy it. It does not pass the smell test which discerns absurdity.
                          This even goes beyond gender !

                          Remember the dingbat caucasian woman who "identified" as a black person ??

                          Remember her ?


                          Rachel Dolezal -- fresh off of stepping down as head of the Spokane NAACP chapter over criticism that she's portrayed herself as black, even though she was born white -- stood by that self-assessment Tuesday, insisting, "I identify as black."
                          ...

                          http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/16/us/was...acp/index.html

                          These things have made Alice in Wonderland look more and more real !!

                          Originally posted by Brexx View Post
                          The monkeys are no longer in the zoo, and the bugs are no longer in the bug-house.
                          Perhaps we can all "identify" as Donald Trump and be the President. I do wonder if we might get away with that as an explanation for trying to take some funds out of his - OURS - bank account... I need a new car after-all and he - I - can afford it .....

                          ... Yes, this is looking better and better for me...... him, I mean ME... Oh, who am I again ??? What am I ??? Where am *.............

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                          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            And this is what is truly scary. In today's America, little children can be made sexually confused by their 'educators' !!??

                            Scary and sick.

                            Truth & reality don't change no matter how we feel like changing them...just make us confused and unable to deal with or accept truth & reality.

                            Which causes trouble...

                            ====================================

                            'Homo-fascism' killed a GA Tech student ?

                            This person ""lost their life at the hands of campus police during a mental health crisis."" according to homosexual-rights group GLAAD. ..and yet .... "A follow-up tweet from the group demanded better "mental health resources" for homosexuals..."

                            .... they've "painted themselves into a corner" maybe ?

                            ---------------------------


                            What ultimately killed Schultz, Barber says, is a culture of "homo-fascism" that celebrated an obviously mentally ill young man then blamed the cops who were forced to take his life.

                            ..if a professor, school counselor, or a roommate would dare to link Schultz's sexuality with his lingering mental problems. To do so, he says, would bring the label "homophobe" and likely loss of a job.

                            "No one dare challenge the new LGBT orthodoxy that says gender identity is a subjective thing," says Barber. "No," he adds, "they're struggling with a mental disorder."

                            Schultz's father, Bill, told CBS News that his son was struggling with his sexual identity and has attempted to commit suicide.

                            In a tweet that blamed law enforcement, homosexual-rights group GLAAD praised Schultz as an "LGBTQ campus organizer" at Georgia Tech who "lost their life at the hands of campus police during a mental health crisis."

                            A follow-up tweet from the group
                            demanded better "mental health resources" for homosexuals and more training for police officers to deal with the mentally ill.

                            The irony of a demand for mental help is that homosexual activists arm-twisted the American Psychological Association to drop homosexuality as a mental illness four decades ago. In more recent years, APA softened its definition of transgenderism to from a disorder to "gender dysphoria" but refused to drop the term altogether.


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                            https://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2...a-tech-student
                            I PROBABLY HEARD fROGGIE WENT a cortin' about 60 years ago and I never gave the idea that it had a moral. Just a silly song. Why don't we have the frog take the sword from his side and cut off the snake's head then turn his pistol and shoots Miss Mousey, then he kisses a princess and turns into a handsome prince who goes out stirring up trouble and gets himself crucified and a world region is formed in his name oops wrong fairy tale. I don't know where most of you folks live but I have two grandchildren in elementary school right now they seem to be learning much the same stuff we were teaching thirty years ago whe I was involved in education. I can't imagine any teacher addressing sexual issues of any kind with primary aged children

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                            • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              I PROBABLY HEARD fROGGIE WENT a cortin' about 60 years ago and I never gave the idea that it had a moral. Just a silly song. Why don't we have the frog take the sword from his side and cut off the snake's head then turn his pistol and shoots Miss Mousey, then he kisses a princess and turns into a handsome prince who goes out stirring up trouble and gets himself crucified and a world region is formed in his name oops wrong fairy tale. I don't know where most of you folks live but I have two grandchildren in elementary school right now they seem to be learning much the same stuff we were teaching thirty years ago whe I was involved in education. I can't imagine any teacher addressing sexual issues of any kind with primary aged children
                              Maybe you are not paying enough attention to what your grandchildren are being fed, or else maybe you are in an area where the shit wave hasn't hit yet.

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                              • Originally posted by Brexx View Post

                                Maybe you are not paying enough attention to what your grandchildren are being fed, or else maybe you are in an area where the shit wave hasn't hit yet.
                                As an educater it is pointlrss to try to teach kids they are not deventomentaly ready to learn is a waste of time.

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