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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...utj?li=AAa0dzB


    So now we are putting the cross on the tools of death and killing. I wonder how many Christians here will come out against this, since they follow the prince of peace. I think some like to see him as a warrior, and now he has his gun with his cross imprinted on it. And we can use it to kill muslims, so they know who killed them. Someone likes the idea of bringing back the primitive mindset that fought religious wars. You know, believe in my saviors blood, or I shall drown you in your own.

    So, good idea? Or another "tell" our culture is regressing?

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    Originally posted by Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
    1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

    2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

    3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

    4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

    5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

    6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

    7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

    8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
    Thus saith the Lord.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
      http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...utj?li=AAa0dzB


      So now we are putting the cross on the tools of death and killing. I wonder how many Christians here will come out against this, since they follow the prince of peace. I think some like to see him as a warrior, and now he has his gun with his cross imprinted on it. And we can use it to kill muslims, so they know who killed them. Someone likes the idea of bringing back the primitive mindset that fought religious wars. You know, believe in my saviors blood, or I shall drown you in your own.

      So, good idea? Or another "tell" our culture is regressing?
      Irrelevant idea, stupid question...

      as in "who cares?"

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Good1 View Post

        Irrelevant idea, stupid question...

        as in "who cares?"
        No surprise it is irrelevant to you, as well as the stupid question perception. But it isn't meaningless, as much as you will insist that it is.

        Wonder if any fundamentalists will object to putting the symbol of Christ and salvation on a gun? Oh, another stupid question.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Commodore View Post

          Thus saith the Lord.
          He said much more, and the final word came from the mouth of Christ. You will find them in the gospels. And by his own life, his behavior. Not that anyone actually pays much attention to what he said, which unlike the rest of the bible, is not through man, but directly from god, via his son.

          Remember one reason Christ was rejected by the traditional jewish religion was because they were expecting a warrior, to lead the jews to victory. But they didn't understand that this Christ they were expecting was a mistake, a misunderstanding, and that misunderstanding lives on today in Christianity.

          I know many want Christ to carry a gun with his logo on it though. Killing for Christ is perhaps coming back into vogue. It is justified because the OT says there is a time for war, and since humanity has loved that so much, this is used to justify any war they particularly like. But blessed are the peacemakers for Christ was of Love not war mongering.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
            He said much more, and the final word came from the mouth of Christ. You will find them in the gospels. And by his own life, his behavior. Not that anyone actually pays much attention to what he said, which unlike the rest of the bible, is not through man, but directly from god, via his son.

            Remember one reason Christ was rejected by the traditional jewish religion was because they were expecting a warrior, to lead the jews to victory. But they didn't understand that this Christ they were expecting was a mistake, a misunderstanding, and that misunderstanding lives on today in Christianity.

            I know many want Christ to carry a gun with his logo on it though. Killing for Christ is perhaps coming back into vogue. It is justified because the OT says there is a time for war, and since humanity has loved that so much, this is used to justify any war they particularly like. But blessed are the peacemakers for Christ was of Love not war mongering.
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            That said, I sincerely doubt that He who commands the elements will need a gun.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Commodore View Post
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              That said, I sincerely doubt that He who commands the elements will need a gun.
              We like our gods to be as violent and bloodthirsty as man has been. And so the prince of peace just didn't fit our human appetite, and when he didn't act like us, we felt a need to bring him back, and this time, he will be involved in a great war, where blood will run bridle deep, just like we like it.

              I think the truth is, Christ came, and revealed the keys to the kingdom. But no one wanted to discard their most valuable possession, their own self images, and created another religion, where they could not only keep the ego, but give it eternal life. And egos are the entity that creates all sin. No ego, no sin. Since Christians have big egos, and love them so much, it is no surprise the words of Christ didn't change man. Now we are making guns with the cross on them, and it is doubtful you will hear fundamentalists speaking out against this, they will probably be their best customers.

              I guess the RCC, the pope, will have to show the absurdity involved with the symbol of love and salvation being put on guns, so that you will be reminded, thou shalt not kill. But doubtful it will serve as that reminder. For we adore killing so much. Makes us feel like real men, or real masculine egos.

              I wear a cross on a chain around my neck. Perhaps, I should sharpen it up, and turn it into a shuriken? And turn plow shears into swords.

              I reckon with the cross guns, we want to emulate the muslims. Without the virgins awaiting us? What is next? Posters with Christ dressed up as special forces, sporting a cross gun?

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              • #8
                Why did Christ call 12 apostles if He didn't want you to listen to them when He left?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                  http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...utj?li=AAa0dzB


                  So now we are putting the cross on the tools of death and killing. I wonder how many Christians here will come out against this, since they follow the prince of peace. I think some like to see him as a warrior, and now he has his gun with his cross imprinted on it. And we can use it to kill muslims, so they know who killed them. Someone likes the idea of bringing back the primitive mindset that fought religious wars. You know, believe in my saviors blood, or I shall drown you in your own.

                  So, good idea? Or another "tell" our culture is regressing?
                  Weapons with a Cross on them are nothing new, they've been around for a good chunk of the past 2000 years.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                    Weapons with a Cross on them are nothing new, they've been around for a good chunk of the past 2000 years.
                    Those of us with a little understanding of anthropology know that a culture creates a god who supports the values of that culture. In the past we have seen a god who was OK with slavery because that's what the culture demanded. Today we have a god who is OK with torture and brutality. A god of hate. That is what the culture wants. Man created god in his own image.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post
                      Those of us with a little understanding of anthropology know that a culture creates a god who supports the values of that culture. In the past we have seen a god who was OK with slavery because that's what the culture demanded. Today we have a god who is OK with torture and brutality. A god of hate. That is what the culture wants. Man created god in his own image.
                      Yeah, that's what you with little understanding believe.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                        Yeah, that's what you with little understanding believe.
                        I understand that Christianity supported and defended slavery, until it no longer did. So what changed? God, or man? Man of course, if one believes in an unchanging god. So what he said is accurate.

                        Not many people know this, but many of the movements that helped to correct social wrongs, social evils, came from one sect in Christianity. And a rather small sect. Quakers. Which by the way is a group without a head, without a leader. Which created an environment that as the group would sit in silence, not rallied by some leader, the Will of God was able to reveal itself to people sitting in silence. A busy, thinking, compulsive, impulsive brain, keeps out inspiration from God. For such a brain is a brain operating from its storehouse of knowledge, which is what you have been conditioned with, conditioned with what to think. And you cannot think outside of your conditioning. If this goes silent, then something new can enter. If its good, one says this comes from god. If bad, then it comes from satan. Although I would imagine satan works from knowledge, not silence of thought.

                        Like it or not, we are all conditioned by culture. If that culture is a good culture, based upon caring, giving, empathy, unselfishness, that will create a particular type of person. But if the culture is selfish, self interested, lacking empathy, celebrating hate and violence, competition, a dog eat dog Darwinism, then that will create individuals who are this. Apparently so few today want a good culture, and that is reflected in every aspect of society, from gov't to the relationship you have with the people next door, even to the way religion is viewed. And not like this is just conceptional, an idea, for you can literally observe it in your own consciousness. Your own consciousness, when observed is the validation of the truth of all of this. But it is inconvenient for those who like the brutality of our society, who benefit personally from it.

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