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  • #16
    Originally posted by redrover View Post
    I think you have the Russia deal confused with Whitewater where Ken Starr didn't get a single indictment. By contrast Bob Mueller has brought charges against 22. Or are you talking about the Trump deal to build a hotel in Moscow? It's hard to keep all our Russian deals straight. http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-char...-russia-818775
    A Newsweek article from February 24th ! ??

    I wonder if any, ... I wonder how these charges,... how this story has developed since February, don't you ?

    This Trump/Russia stuff is crap.

    Everybody knows it's crap.

    If anyone is in trouble, its barack and hilary. It's these goofy folks in the "media."

    They made their beds, they get to sleep in them.

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    Here's one reason the Trump corruption scandals aren't connecting as much as they should: Before Democrats spent the past 18 months telling everyone this is not normal, they spent years reassuring voters that this was normal.

    Up until now, this phenomenon has been quite opaque to leftists, who have repeatedly dismissed Clinton (and Obama) behavior as business as usual. Spying on political opponents, spying on the press, taking cash for foundation donations in exchange for policy decisions, was all claimed to be nothing, just as 'it's just about sex' had been. Democrats systematically corrupted the system with their 'we'll just have to win it, then' mentality, courtesy of the Clintons, and now have to contend with a rigged Democratic Party, they can't even blame Republicans for that one, it's all their own doing. Their Alinskyite 'by any means necessary' mentality has come back to bite them in the butts now.

    What they did through this short term gain was open the door for someone else to take obvious transgressions that should have been nipped in the bud to ever greater extremes. The Stormy Daniels controversy, for instance, is a nothingburger to us now, because Bill Clinton and several Democrats before him already lowered the bar, thinking that if Democrats do it, it's all O.K.

    Net result, voters just don't care.

    Pat yourselves on the back for that, Democrats, because you are living in a 'new normal' of your own making.


    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ught_them.html


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    The Democratic/media complex is about to get worse than it has before.

    Soon.

    Thats hard to believe, but just watch. Yes, they have been spewing destruction in their wake for well over two years now. Destroying property, lives, states, cities, nothing escapes their toxic brew.

    The trigger for the eruption of the last years has been Trump.

    How dare he beat them, their agenda, their candidate?

    Doesnt he know who they are?

    For that insolence, he, his family, his friends, his associates, every member of his administration, his voters, literally anyone who says one good thing about him must have lava poured on them 24/7.

    Maybe forever.

    This has been non-stop since he won. Unfortunately, its about to get worse.

    Weve known how juvenile, stunted, and arrogant these people are for over a decade. Only now, in the past years, is it obvious they will get worse until they finally are defeated. Only now has it become clear how vicious, hate-filled, and how determined they are to ruin the lives of those they oppose.

    What they are doing now, they will do to anyone who stands in their way. Desolation is what they have in mind for us.

    Their hatred of Trump (and us) is so all-consuming it has literally driven them mad.

    In their madness, they have fouled their nests.

    For a decade, they protected Obama and the radical left. They thought they had made a firewall where they would keep power forever. These were not journalists who lamented, and cried, and sputtered as the returns came in on election night. These were toddlers, emotionally stunted people who thought they were the entitled ones, that they were the smart ones.

    Except they werent. They were simply Democrat operatives playing journalist.

    And now they have decided to do Obama in reverse. Anything Trump or his administration says or does is baaaaaad. Evil. Anything that is good news: the economic boom we are in, the destruction of ISIS, the realignment in the middle east, the amazing foreign policy victories, tax cuts, deregulation, business optimism, the high in consumer confidence. None of that can be reported.

    To the leftist media, nothing good comes from Trump. Its all terrible. So they continue to spew rivers of lava 24/7. They continue to lie, make up narratives, sources, stories, anything they think can derail Trump. Desolation uber alles.

    As if the American public doesnt see what is happening.

    Youd think that spontaneous chants of CNN sucks among the tens of thousands at every Trump rally might tip them off. Or the polls showing them less popular than car salespeople.

    THE IG REPORT IS COMING.

    Yes. It. Is. Notice how many times it has been delayed coming out. March. April. Now May. And why? Apparently they kept finding new, and treacherous goings-on in the bureaucracies they had to track down. The more they looked, the more they uncovered. It is now done, just going through final tweaking. As Kimberly Strassel says (and others), the leftist media is finally going to pretend its not really so bad Obama spied on Trump.

    A few will try as the Times did this past week.

    Unfortunately for them, they burned their ships when they went full partisan after Trump, and anyone associated with. They burned their credibility with the American public. Now only the most unrepentant leftists hear what they have to say.

    Get woke, go broke isnt just about money, its about credibility and truth.

    These people have been broken by their own pride, their sense of entitlement, and their own disdain of anyone who does not agree with them. They are so far out on that limb, teetering and spewing, they forgot to notice Donald Trump over there with his saw. Stealth happens.

    Recall Trumps initial tweets about his wires being tapped.

    At this point, does anyone think Trump didnt know 95%+ what the Obama Justice department did to them when he tweeted that? If so, I have this perpetual motion machine I want to sell you. Cheap.

    One by one all these bad apples have been exposed, demoted, fired, outed, and reported on by real journalists named Sara and John. Does anyone really think that Trump hasnt had a hand in that? Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Yates, the whole lot of them. Gone. And/or, busted. Their eruptive act hasnt stopped him. They are losing.

    The IG report is the next big explosion.

    Its quite clear the Mueller appointment is not what the left hoped. Hes either a smokescreen for something else, or another opponent Trump has destroyed. Muellers position has unraveled before the eyes of the public. Even without the leftist media reporting on these horrifying bureaucratic shenanigans, the American public, well over half believe Obama wrongfully spied on Trump.

    The enemedia loves Mueller. Their chips are all in.

    And he has nothing.

    Pathetic nothing.


    His indictments are beyond inconsequential, they have nothing to do with Trump.

    No indictment is coming.

    No report of collusion by Trump is forthcoming.


    What he has about Trump wont fill a sentence in a leftist slanted history book.

    Youd think theyd notice.

    Trump knows all this. He knows who the bad guys are, and how bad they were. Hes got the goods on all of them. #Obamagate: How an arrogant group of narcissists thought they were so smart, they could force a corrupt, greedy woman on us, and when that failed, undo a sitting President.

    The coup self-aborted. The ever-increasing lava-spewing by the MSM will no longer help them. I am surmising there are players who have turned to plea bargaining and have spilled the truth out. I am thinking that all of them are going to start jumping ship like the rats they are, beginning with the IG report. Theres going to be Hell to pay. The public will hear the IG report.

    And that is only the beginning. If you dont think there is judgment on the horizon for Trumps enemies, or that hes really not doing anything to line the ducks up to take them down, you havent been watching. Remember: Melanias surgery was scheduled for months, with no leaks.

    Trump never reveals what hes doing. Witness Korea. He has a plan for this lawbreaking. Stop pretending he and Sessions are doing nothing. Its not only working. Its about to blow.

    Code Red for the left. Worst cognitive dissonance ever. They have no clue what is about to hit them.


    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._eruption.html


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    • #17
      Ball's in your court, 'Rover: The Captain has given you a lot of evidence for his position, complete with actual quotes AND links to those resources. He did a lot of work to provide that to you because, you know, that is how "these things are done around here" (according to your response to me).

      Now, let's see how you treat this evidence.

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      • #18
        It's time to stop this foolishnes.

        Everyone should agree here, especially liberals, because the longer this drags on, the worse they & their party look !

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        "Stopping Mueller isn't about one president or one party. It's about all presidents and all parties. It's about cleaning out and reforming the deep state so that our intelligence operations are never [again ] used against opposing campaigns without the firmest of evidence," Penn wrote.

        https://www.newsmax.com/politics/mar.../21/id/861588/

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
          It's time to stop this foolishnes.

          Everyone should agree here, especially liberals, because the longer this drags on, the worse they & their party look !

          ------------------------------------------------

          "Stopping Mueller isn't about one president or one party. It's about all presidents and all parties. It's about cleaning out and reforming the deep state so that our intelligence operations are never [again ] used against opposing campaigns without the firmest of evidence," Penn wrote.

          https://www.newsmax.com/politics/mar.../21/id/861588/
          Yes it's going to be looked at and that will take about five minutes. Then there is this bombshell. https://www.motherjones.com/politics...tower-meeting/

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          • #20
            Originally posted by redrover View Post
            Yes it's going to be looked at and that will take about five minutes. Then there is this bombshell. https://www.motherjones.com/politics...tower-meeting/
            Hmmm... bombshell eh ?

            ....so it says; It is illegal for foreign governments or individuals to be involved in American elections, and it is unclear whatif anydirect assistance Saudi Arabia and the Emirates may have provided.

            It is unclear what, if any direct assistance Saudi Arabia and/or the U.A.E. may have provided.

            This is nothing more than supposition and guessing.

            But two people familiar with the meetings said that Trump campaign officials did not appear bothered by the idea of cooperation with foreigners.

            Two people "familiar" with the meetings... who might that be ? Were these people who were present at the meetings ? Did they speak with someone who was present at the meetings ? Or, did they just happen to learn about the meetings and then claim to be "familiar" with them ?

            This doesn't sound like much of a bombshell.

            Actually it sounds like a firecracker that got wet and then the fuse petered out and.... it fizzled * ^ ~

            . . . as usual, there's nothing there

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            • #21

              But . . there's quite a bit coming out everyday, more and more keeps being exposed... and it's not looking good for our liberal political brethren - if you'd call them that LOL

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              Once upon a time, Americans could count on the directors of the CIA and the FBI to stay above the political fray and serve the nation.

              No longer.

              Former FBI Director James Comey, fired from his post because he was completely incompetent, is traveling the country on a book tour, slamming President Trump at every turn. And former CIA Director John Brennan is now threatening the top Republicans in the House and Senate, Sen. Mitch McConnell and Rep. Paul Ryan.

              "Senator McConnell & Speaker Ryan: If Mr. Trump continues along this disastrous path, you will bear major responsibility for the harm done to our democracy. You do a great disservice to our Nation & the Republican Party if you continue to enable Mr. Trumps self-serving actions," Brennan said on Twitter on Sunday, targeting the message to Trump.

              Early Monday morning, Trump took to Twitter to respond.

              'John Brennan is panicking. He has disgraced himself, he has disgraced the Country, he has disgraced the entire Intelligence Community. He is the one man who is largely responsible for the destruction of Americans faith in the Intelligence Community and in some people at the... top of the FBI. Brennan started this entire debacle about President Trump. We now know that Brennan had detailed knowledge of the (phony) Dossier... he knows about the Dossier, he denies knowledge of the Dossier, he briefs the Gang of 8 on the Hill about the Dossier, which.... ...they then used to start an investigation about Trump. It is that simple. This guy is the genesis of this whole Debacle. This was a Political hit job, this was not an Intelligence Investigation. Brennan has disgraced himself, hes worried about staying out of Jail.' Dan Bongino."

              Trump sourced the comments to Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent and current Florida congressional candidate. On "Fox and Friends," Bongino said:

              "John Brennan is panicking... John Brennan has disgraced himself. He's disgraced the country. He's disgraced the intelligence community. He is the one man largely responsible for the destruction of Americans' faith in the intelligence community and in some people at the top of the FBI.... Breenan than started this entire debacle with Trump. We now know Brennan had pretty detailed knowledge of the dossier. Walk you through this real slow: He knows about the dossier. He denies knowledge of the dossier. He briefs the the Gang of 8 up on the Hill about the dossier, hich they then used to demand the FBI start an investigation on trump. It is that simple. This guy is the genesis of this whole debacle."

              Bongino said his comments are based on an investigation he's been doing for a new book.

              On Brennan, Bongino said: "He just didn't like Donald Trump, but got information through unofficial channels, through people who were involved with British intelligence. They were basically using unofficial channels... to launder information, like you would launder money. Because if they put it through official channels, something would've happened. You know what that one thing is? They would have had to verify the information before they used it and they didn't want to because this was a political hit job. This was not an intelligence investigation."

              Asked who else knew about this, Bongino said James Clapper, Obama's director of National Intelligence, Obama's Atterney General Loretta Lynch, and "of course Comey knew what was going on in this."

              "There was a very small working group of people who were involved in this political hit job on Donald Trump. ... Here's the problem," Bongino said. "The reason Brennan's panicking and a lot of others have gone silent is they're not just worried about reputational harm -- Brennan's disgraced himself, he knows history's not going to be kind to him -- they're worried about staying out of jail.

              "There were criminal leaks here -- criminal leaks, felonious criminal leaks," Bongino said.

              Trump also implied that former president Barack Obama knows more about the whole debacle.

              Trump is citing this story in the Wall Street Journal, which says:

              Its not clear what an FBI official meant in 2016 when texting that President Obama wants to know everything were doing. But we can assume that the President was fairly well-informed about the law enforcement agencies reporting to him. Therefore lets hear from him in detail the full history of how the government came to investigate the presidential campaign of the party out of power.

              Stay tuned.



              https://www.dailywire.com/news/30872...ign=benshapiro


              Obama's scandals, which he said he had to write down because there's so many and listed:

              Benghazi

              The Veterans Administration where vets died

              Uranium One being sold

              Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email server

              Fast and Furious

              Former President Bill Clinton meeting with former Attorney General Loretta Lynch

              Former Deputy Director of the FBI Andrew McCabe

              He added the possibility that the Obama administration spied on the Trump campaign and said, The history of the Obama administration's corruption has not been set yet.


              Bossie argued that Trump has had nothing but success and so many accomplishments that the Democrats are using Obama's alleged scandal-free time in office to discredit the president.

              https://ijr.com/2018/05/1096852-davi...e-obama-trump/


              Last week, reports indicated Stefan Halper, a Cambridge professor and longtime aide to some of Washingtons most powerful figures, was outed as an FBI informant planted inside Donald Trumps 2016 presidential campaign.

              http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ource=facebook


              President Trump on Friday called reports that the FBI embedded an informant in his 2016 campaign the "all-time biggest political scandal" as he cited a report saying the Department of Justice is trying to "frame" him.

              "Reports are there was indeed at least one FBI representative implanted, for political purposes, into my campaign for president. It took place very early on, and long before the phony Russia Hoax became a hot Fake News story. If true - all time biggest political scandal!" Trump wrote on Twitter.

              Trump also cited a Fox Business report by anchor David Asman. "'Apparently the DOJ put a Spy in the Trump Campaign. This has never been done before and by any means necessary, they are out to frame Donald Trump for crimes he didn't commit,'" Trump tweeted Friday. "Really bad stuff!"

              In a tweet on Thursday morning, Trump cited an article by Andrew McCarthy, an editor at the conservative National Review. In the piece, McCarthy said a co-founder of an intelligence firm Fusion GPS which compiled the "dirty dossier" on Trump for the Hillary Clinton campaign has testified before the Senate that the FBI had a human source within Trump's team.

              Wow, word seems to be coming out that the Obama FBI 'SPIED ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WITH AN EMBEDDED INFORMANT,' Trump wrote on Twitter. Andrew McCarthy says, Theres probably no doubt that they had at least one confidential informant in the campaign.'

              The New York Times has bolstered the notion. At least one government informant met several times with Mr. [Carter] Page and Mr. [George] Papadopoulos, current and former officials said, the Times reported. That has become a politically contentious point, with Mr. Trumps allies questioning whether the F.B.I. was spying on the Trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials.


              White House adviser Kellyanne Conway also weighed in on the reports, saying Thursday on Fox News Channel, It looks like the Trump campaign may have been surveilled.


              https://www.dailywire.com/news/30811...ign=benshapiro


              Todays read of the day comes from a Democrat who has broken with the corruptocrats that are leading his party to ruin.

              The deep state is in a deep state of desperation. With little time left before the Justice Department inspector generals report becomes public, and with special counsel Robert Mueller having failed to bring down Donald Trump after a year of trying, they know a reckoning is coming.

              At this point, there is little doubt that the highest echelons of the FBI and the Justice Department broke their own rules to end the Hillary Clintonmatter, but we can expect the inspector general to document what was done or, more pointedly, not done. It is hard to see how a year-long investigation of this wont come down hard on former FBI Director James Comey and perhaps even former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who definitely wasnt playing mahjong in a secret no aides allowed meeting with former President Clinton on a Phoenix airport tarmac. (snip)

              Flush with 16 prosecutors, including a former lawyer for the Clinton Foundation, and an undisclosed budget, the Mueller investigation has been a scorched-earth effort to investigate the entirety of the Trump campaign, Trump business dealings, the entire administration and now, if it was not Russia, maybe its some other country.

              The presidents earlier legal team was naive in believing that, when Mueller found nothing, he would just end it. Instead, the less investigators found, the more determined and expansive they became. This president and his team now are on a better road to put appropriate limits on all this.

              This process must now be stopped, preferably long before a vote in the Senate. Rather than a fair, limited and impartial investigation, the Mueller investigation became a partisan, open-ended inquisition that, by its precedent, is a threat to all those who ever want to participate in a national campaign or an administration again.

              Like Pat Caddell, Doug Schoen, and a few other Democrat sages, Mark Penn sees the dead end the party he has worked for most of his adult life is hurtling down.


              https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ler_probe.html


              21 May 2018

              Monday Fox Business Network, host Maria Bartiromo said during the administration of President Barack Obama, the Department of Justice, the FBI, the IRS and the CIA were all involved in trying to take down Donald Trump.

              Fox News chief judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano said, We may be on the precipice of exposing a very, very extraordinary political use of intelligence and law enforcement by the Obama Administration.

              Bartiromo said, This is a major presidential election. President Obama, basically, what it appears to me, politicizing all of his agencies. The DOJ, the FBI, the IRS, the CIA they were all involved in trying to take down Donald Trump.


              http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/...ource=facebook




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              • #22
                Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
                Ball's in your court, 'Rover: The Captain has given you a lot of evidence for his position, complete with actual quotes AND links to those resources. He did a lot of work to provide that to you because, you know, that is how "these things are done around here" (according to your response to me).

                Now, let's see how you treat this evidence.
                Ah, and thank you for your response. Apparently your treatment of the evidence Captain gave you is to ignore it and try to move on to something else (and, gasp, from Mother Jones, no less ... which is almost laughable).

                Carry on, Weak Sauce.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

                  Ah, and thank you for your response. Apparently your treatment of the evidence Captain gave you is to ignore it and try to move on to something else (and, gasp, from Mother Jones, no less ... which is almost laughable).

                  Carry on, Weak Sauce.
                  Putting quotation marks around the opinions of some right wing loon isn't what I consider evidence.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    Putting quotation marks around the opinions of some right wing loon isn't what I consider evidence.
                    We don't know what right wing "loon" we put quotation marks around and called evidence.

                    Not that it matters terribly much.

                    We know you only accept events, facts, objects, history, etc that you like, as evidence.

                    This makes it easy to ignore events, facts, objects, history, etc that you don't like and pretend they don't exist.

                    It's a very clever strategy ( you think at least ) to mold reality into what you want it to be.

                    So as not to disturb your alternate reality - nevermind, carry on.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      Putting quotation marks around the opinions of some right wing loon isn't what I consider evidence.
                      Ah, I see. It is only evidence if we put quotation marks around some left wing loon (or source) like you do.

                      Got it.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by DavidSF View Post

                        Ah, I see. It is only evidence if we put quotation marks around some left wing loon (or source) like you do.

                        Got it.
                        I try to stay away from left wing opinions and post un disputable facts presented by left wing sources. The facts that wingers call fake news.Here is a preview I just researched for the next phase of the Mueller investigation. I'm so old.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYqfevEEtyc

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                        • #27
                          Keep posting desperate garbage rover, it's always fun.

                          In the meantime - In 50 to 70 years ALL will be known about the corruption that occurred during the obama administration. It will be well known history.

                          In the meantime, progressives are having conniption fits because their scams and lies are slowly exposing them for the frauds they've always been.

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                          A group of House lawmakers are once again calling for the appointment of a second special counsel to investigate whether misconduct took place in the FBI and the Justice Department in probing the Trump campaign and Russia. Congressional leaders want to "review" highly classified information the lawmakers have been seeking on the handling of the probe.

                          [ Florida Reps. Matt Gaetz and Ron DeSantis today joined a group of Republicans in demanding a second special counsel to investigate what they say are widespread abuses of power at the Justice Department and FBI in probing the Trump campaign and Russia.

                          The move comes as President Donald Trump has escalated his complaints over Robert Mueller's probe into the 2016 election and Russian interference. Trump and his team have begun to assert that a spy was inserted into the campaign.

                          "If they had spies in my campaign, that would be a disgrace," Trump told reporters at the White House today. "I hope they weren't."

                          In fact, as the New York Times reported, "F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign."

                          A resolution introduced by Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York seeks "an investigation of abuse of the FISA warrant process, how and why the Hillary Clinton probe ended, and how and why the Donald Trump Russia probe began."

                          Gaetz and others today said House Speaker Paul Ryan needs to bring the resolution to the floor, but Ryan already said he supports the Justice Department using an inspector general to review the use of informants.


                          ..http://tbo.com/florida-politics/buzz...ecial-counsel/ ]

                          Ron DeSantis (R-Florida), a member of the House Freedom Caucus, said people need to be held accountable for how they conducted the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

                          "We also need to get people to be held accountable for any FISA abuse that occurred," DeSantis continued. "And then [we need to ask questions like] How did this investigation into the Trump campaign start? And was it on the up-and-up from the very beginning?

                          "I don't think that the Justice Department is going to be able to investigate themselves," the congressman added. "I think that they've resisted our inquiries here in Congress for long enough. So it's time that we did have a special counsel."

                          Sandy Rios...says the left has always been successful in evading accountability.

                          "I've never seen them exposed," she tells OneNewsNow. "Even though a lot of times we knew like This is not right. The press is not reporting. This can't be true. There is something going on here. This is the first time I have ever seen the wheels start to come off the bus for the left."

                          Rios says the midterm elections could change everything. "If Republicans should lose the House in this midterm, and if the Senate actually should swing [left] or if more bad people whether they're Republicans or Democrats are elected, we could still lose," she says. "And by 'we' I mean patriots people who love the country."

                          A resolution introduced by Congressman Lee Zeldin (R-New York) calls for U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions to appoint a special counsel "to investigate misconduct at the [DOJ] and [FBI], including an investigation of abuse of the FISA warrant process, how and why the Hillary Clinton probe ended, and how and why the Donald Trump-Russia probe began."



                          https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-...into-road-rage

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                            Keep posting desperate garbage rover, it's always fun.

                            In the meantime - In 50 to 70 years ALL will be known about the corruption that occurred during the obama administration. It will be well known history.

                            In the meantime, progressives are having conniption fits because their scams and lies are slowly exposing them for the frauds they've always been.

                            --------------------------------------------------


                            A group of House lawmakers are once again calling for the appointment of a second special counsel to investigate whether misconduct took place in the FBI and the Justice Department in probing the Trump campaign and Russia. Congressional leaders want to "review" highly classified information the lawmakers have been seeking on the handling of the probe.

                            [ Florida Reps. Matt Gaetz and Ron DeSantis today joined a group of Republicans in demanding a second special counsel to investigate what they say are widespread abuses of power at the Justice Department and FBI in probing the Trump campaign and Russia.

                            The move comes as President Donald Trump has escalated his complaints over Robert Mueller's probe into the 2016 election and Russian interference. Trump and his team have begun to assert that a spy was inserted into the campaign.

                            "If they had spies in my campaign, that would be a disgrace," Trump told reporters at the White House today. "I hope they weren't."

                            In fact, as the New York Times reported, "F.B.I. agents sent an informant to talk to two campaign advisers only after they received evidence that the pair had suspicious contacts linked to Russia during the campaign."

                            A resolution introduced by Rep. Lee Zeldin of New York seeks "an investigation of abuse of the FISA warrant process, how and why the Hillary Clinton probe ended, and how and why the Donald Trump Russia probe began."

                            Gaetz and others today said House Speaker Paul Ryan needs to bring the resolution to the floor, but Ryan already said he supports the Justice Department using an inspector general to review the use of informants.


                            ..http://tbo.com/florida-politics/buzz...ecial-counsel/ ]

                            Ron DeSantis (R-Florida), a member of the House Freedom Caucus, said people need to be held accountable for how they conducted the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

                            "We also need to get people to be held accountable for any FISA abuse that occurred," DeSantis continued. "And then [we need to ask questions like] How did this investigation into the Trump campaign start? And was it on the up-and-up from the very beginning?

                            "I don't think that the Justice Department is going to be able to investigate themselves," the congressman added. "I think that they've resisted our inquiries here in Congress for long enough. So it's time that we did have a special counsel."

                            Sandy Rios...says the left has always been successful in evading accountability.

                            "I've never seen them exposed," she tells OneNewsNow. "Even though a lot of times we knew like This is not right. The press is not reporting. This can't be true. There is something going on here. This is the first time I have ever seen the wheels start to come off the bus for the left."

                            Rios says the midterm elections could change everything. "If Republicans should lose the House in this midterm, and if the Senate actually should swing [left] or if more bad people whether they're Republicans or Democrats are elected, we could still lose," she says. "And by 'we' I mean patriots people who love the country."

                            A resolution introduced by Congressman Lee Zeldin (R-New York) calls for U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions to appoint a special counsel "to investigate misconduct at the [DOJ] and [FBI], including an investigation of abuse of the FISA warrant process, how and why the Hillary Clinton probe ended, and how and why the Donald Trump-Russia probe began."



                            https://www.onenewsnow.com/politics-...into-road-rage
                            How sad that you have bought into this utter nonsense. I'm hoping someone else will step up and tell you why this is nothing but crap. because it's so obvious I don't want to bother with it.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              How sad that you have bought into this utter nonsense. I'm hoping someone else will step up and tell you why this is nothing but crap. because it's so obvious I don't want to bother with it.
                              Oh yes of course, forgive me.

                              The president is going to jail soon . . . is that more like it ?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by redrover View Post

                                I try to stay away from left wing opinions and post un disputable facts presented by left wing sources. The facts that wingers call fake news.Here is a preview I just researched for the next phase of the Mueller investigation. I'm so old.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYqfevEEtyc
                                I have no doubt you believe that clip to be actual evidence ... probably something they should use against Trump. Well done.

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