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  • #31
    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

    Do we think this is going to help them get elected ? They have shown contempt and outright hate for people of faith - except those of the faith of Islam, go figure...

    I wonder

    Selling hate for votes I guess is the strategy ?

    I guess we'll see how that plays !
    Who has shown a hatred of people of faith?
    Please show any candidates who have said anything that shows they hate people of faith.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post

      Who has shown a hatred of people of faith?
      Please show any candidates who have said anything that shows they hate people of faith.
      Per you won't believe what is happening in America. Babies are born and they wrap up the baby;then the doctor and more decide whether or not to execute the baby or let it live. I know this is true because president Trump said it on Saturday at a rally in Wisconsin. Watch the video clip to see for yourself the kind of leaders America has leading them. . https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ies/ar-BBWnm4s

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      • #33
        Originally posted by redrover View Post
        Per you won't believe what is happening in America. Babies are born and they wrap up the baby;then the doctor and more decide whether or not to execute the baby or let it live. I know this is true because president Trump said it on Saturday at a rally in Wisconsin. Watch the video clip to see for yourself the kind of leaders America has leading them. . https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ies/ar-BBWnm4s
        They have killed millions of babies already !! They're still doing it today !

        Only fools think something magical happens when a baby is born ... it suddenly "becomes human" and has rights ?!?!?

        Satan's smooth lies sell hate, death and terror quite well as we see.

        Child sacrifice is an old Satanic practice being brought back to life by the demonic.. democrats.

        Of course they hate Christians.

        Hate is what powers every lie and act of violence they commit.


        They're motivated by hate for anyone that doesn't think as they do.

        Hate is what they operate on today.

        "Liberals have no escape from their party's embrace of hate."

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        Democrats have no shame.

        Liberals watch their politicians, celebrities, and media leaders attack individuals, even children, and our precious civil liberties.

        Instead of recoiling, they immediately parrot the vicious talking point of the day.
        The few exceptions of public protest, the exemplary Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School, and last week, Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), makes the ominous acquiescence of other Democrats all the more noticeable.

        The mobbing of the Covington boys, and the feeble excuse-apologiesand continued attacksthat followed, join what is now a long series of hate-filled words and acts by leftists that cause regular Democrats no shame, no dark night of the soul, no revulsion towards what they are becoming as people and as a party.

        Everything America has ever stood for must go. Being colorblind is attacked as racist. Equality before the law is attacked as sexist. The list of Democrat doublespeak becomes a tedious rant, and whats the point? Democrats are not listening and if forced to listen, plug their ears and scream at the top of the lungs that it is Trump, Trump, Trump who is ruining everything.

        Meanwhile, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms, freedom to organize politically (for conservatives), the right to life for a baby about to be bornhave all been redefined as violence against blacks, women or gays. A religious teenager standing still in a MAGA hat is an attempt to erase minorities that justifies violence to wipe the smile off his face.

        Americans never accepted attacking children, mobbing anyone, making political opposition a thought crimenow Democrats do.

        One by one, the post-Obama Democratic party is breaking down all civilized norms in America. Thats understandable. They are being led by professional activists, following the cultural Marxist playbook of identity politics. It is a well published, albeit ignored playbook, which Obama learned at the American Socialist conferences he attended, taught in Chicago as a paid agitator and law school lecturer, and instituted from the White House.

        Were following the leftist blueprint for destruction. Their weapon of choice is to set the races at each others throats.


        [ How ??? With hate !! ]

        Obama stoked racial grievances leading to race riots and a mass shooting of cops, cynically using the corpses of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. Social justice warriors grievance studies departments, racial quotas and attacks on white privilege daily rub race relations raw.

        Liberals cannot admit what is in front of their eyes: conservatives represent traditionally liberal values. Conservatives are the party of inclusiveness, in which we are all Americans, colorblind and equal, while their identity politics is something foreign to America that encourages hatred of whites and men, pitting race against race and women against men. Conservatives want to raise people up, and their party wants people to be dysfunctional victims, seething masses of self-destructive grievance, envy, and revenge.

        None of this is subtle or confusing. Its just impossible for liberals to admit. The price of being honest is too high.

        Liberals have no escape from their partys embrace of hate.

        For a liberal to criticize Democrat's hatefulness towards whites, men, Jews, Christians, Catholics, it can't be done.

        It would destroy a liberal's career, perhaps his or her marriage, in an instant.

        Dissent is punished swiftly and ruthlessly by liberals. Apples black, female vice president of diversity and inclusion was fired after six months in her new position (she was a 20-year veteran at Apple, on the leadership team expanding retail worldwide). Her crime? She said twelve white men from diverse backgrounds with different life experiences and perspectives also provide diversity.


        They tell themselves Republicans are truly evil and must be destroyed. They insist they are the party of love.

        Liberals arent uneasy that the two freshmen congresswomen from Muslim districts are anti-Semites. Their papers simply dont report on it. Instead, they scream over and over that President Trump is KKK, ignoring his stellar record of helping blacks with jobs and safe neighborhoods and school choice and incarceration reform, his healing words that color doesnt matter, and we are all American.

        Tearing the country apart with false accusations of racism is bad for America, but for the individual liberal, it is totally safe. It is required. It is good.

        Wanting to torture, beat and murder the Catholic boys from Covington High carries no penalty in their social circles. Showing those boys respect even though they are right to life? Thats dangerous. Really dangerous.

        Its easy to keep liberal blinders on. Limit your reading to the propaganda press, so you will not learn any disturbing information. Read the New York Times and listen to NPR, and poofall the potential cognitive dissonance is gone.

        To stay in the fold, liberals are being forced to jettison liberalism. They have already jettisoned American values. No more Bill of Rights. No patriotism allowed. No common sense on borders. No Martin Luther Kings dream of colorblind fairness. No equality before the law. No respect for a two- party system.

        Adopting fascism is entirely comfortable. Everyone they know is doing it. Theyre the good people. Everyone they know says so.


        https://amgreatness.com/2019/02/06/w...democrat-hate/

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        • #34
          Originally posted by redrover View Post

          Per you won't believe what is happening in America. Babies are born and they wrap up the baby;then the doctor and more decide whether or not to execute the baby or let it live. I know this is true because president Trump said it on Saturday at a rally in Wisconsin. Watch the video clip to see for yourself the kind of leaders America has leading them. . https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ies/ar-BBWnm4s
          It's not a baby.

          Unless & until we say it's a baby.

          So something that happened to fall from a womans "place," is disposable.

          UNLESS we say it's a baby.

          We change and effect reality by our words you see ?

          Aren't we clever & powerful ? Like Gods we are !!

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          Kristan Hawkins, who leads Students for Life of America, was speaking to an audience at Boston College when a student asked her about providing medical care for children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border.

          Do you believe that a baby who is born alive during an abortion at Planned Parenthood should get care? Hawkins asked the student.

          No, the student replies.

          So do you think its a baby? Hawkins pressed.

          No, the student replies again.

          Why? the pro-lifer asks.

          Because theyre performing an abortion, the student responds. So, for that, theyve already determined that it's not a baby."


          https://onenewsnow.com/pro-life/2019...bortion-debate

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          • #35
            Originally posted by redrover View Post

            Per you won't believe what is happening in America. Babies are born and they wrap up the baby;then the doctor and more decide whether or not to execute the baby or let it live. I know this is true because president Trump said it on Saturday at a rally in Wisconsin. Watch the video clip to see for yourself the kind of leaders America has leading them. . https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ies/ar-BBWnm4s
            Umm. No. That was Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, Decomorat.
            Virginia Gov. Northam faces backlash for comments on 3rd-trimester ...
            https://www.foxnews.com/.../va-gov-faces-backlash-for-comments-on-controversial-thir...
            Jan 30, 2019 - Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is facing backlash for comments that critics say suggest babies can be killed after birth; Gillian Turner ...


            Virginia governor defends letting babies die AFTER birth - WND
            https://www.wnd.com/2019/.../virginia-governor-defends-letting-babies-die-after-birt...
            Jan 30, 2019 - Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam is raising eyebrows with his comments in support of letting infants die after they have been born alive. Northam, a ...

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            • #36
              Do you honestly think there are any people working in the medical profession who will kill a baby after it's been born?

              As far as I know the law is that even after a failed abortion a baby must get medical care and if it looks like the mother is going to harm it in any way they will take it into protective custody and may force an adoption.

              This is all a hypothetical outcry made up by Trump about a situation that never happens in reality and for which he has zero evidence of but we all know he doesn't give a shit about just flat out making stuff up as he's done it before and he'll do it again.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                Do you honestly think there are any people working in the medical profession who will kill a baby after it's been born?
                Already happened:

                Kermit Barron Gosnell (born February 9, 1941) is an American physician[2] and former abortion provider who was convicted of murdering three infants who were born alive during attempted abortion procedures; he was also convicted of involuntary manslaughter of one woman during an abortion procedure.[3][4][5][6][7]
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_Gosnell
                Now, the left wishes to legalize the practice, apparently.

                As far as I know the law is that even after a failed abortion a baby must get medical care and if it looks like the mother is going to harm it in any way they will take it into protective custody and may force an adoption.
                I do believe the proposed and / or passed (never heard from it again from the media as it puts liberals in a bad light) legislation in Virgina would / does allow for withholding medical care.

                By Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam (D.) his own actual words on air.


                https://freebeacon.com/issues/northman-on-40

                This is all a hypothetical outcry made up by Trump about a situation that never happens in reality and for which he has zero evidence of but we all know he doesn't give a shit about just flat out making stuff up as he's done it before and he'll do it again.
                Well, you've struck out on the first two, but we are supposed to take your word for it on the last one? Umm, Yeah, right.

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                • #38
                  Oh right, Trump doesn't lie at all other than the 10,000 lies he's already told.

                  As for the outrage he's talking about
                  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/28/us/politics/trump-abortion-fact-check.html
                  independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-wisconsin-rally-fbi-scum-babies-executed-a8889766.

                  https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/29/p...ion/index.html
                  https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mothers-decid/

                  So, that's 4 different sources all saying what Trump said was untrue.

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                  • #39
                    Another hate filled crazy rant from a leftist.

                    Tim Wise, a left-wing activist and writer has some venomous things to say about people of faith.

                    He goes to Harvard to spout his hate !

                    Harvard now allows this type of trash !?!


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                    Harvard University featured left-wing activist and writer Tim Wise as a keynote speaker at its diversity conference, despite his past rants against Christians jesting that they should be locked up for believing in a fairly tale.

                    This is America people basing their beliefs on the fable of Noah and Ark, or their interpretation of Sodom and Gomorrah...rather than science or logic if you are basing your morality on a fairy tale written thousands of years ago, you deserve to be locked up detained for your utter inability to deal with reality, Wise wrote in a Facebook post dated September 30, 2015.

                    NO, we are not obligated to indulge your irrationality in the name of your religious freedom but we will provide you a very comfortable room against which walls you may hurl yourself hourly if you choose. Knock yourself out seriously, knock yourself out, completely, for weeks at a time.


                    This kind of thinking was welcomed by Harvard which was ironically founded in 1636 as a Bible school to train clergy as Wise delivered the keynote address for the universitys Decade of Dialogue diversity conference last week.

                    He closed his Facebook rant by suggesting that Christians should be marginalized or outrightly dismissed as deranged citizens unworthy of a voice.

                    I'm sorta kidding, but not by much I don't believe lunatics like this should be locked up, but I do think they have to be politically destroyed, utterly rendered helpless to the cause of pluralism and democracy ... the world is not theirs, Wise continued. They have no right to impose their [expletive] on others. They can either change, or shut the ---- up, or practice their special brand of crazy in their homes...or go away their choice and this argument applies to any fundamentalist religionist of any faith who thinks they have a right to impose their beliefs on a secular, pluralistic society. Go away.

                    Wises Facebook face-job against Christians was by no means a one-time rant, as his attacks on Christianity appear to have flowed freely over the years.

                    Wise also called Christians fundamentalist extremist Jeezoids earlier in 2015 [on Facebook], TheBlaze noted.

                    And after sweeping Republican victories in the 2010 midterm elections, Wise posted An Open Letter to the White Right, On the Occasion of Your Recent, Successful Temper Tantrum for his blog.


                    He even equated Christians to the likes of Hitler by calling them fascists.

                    "[F]ascism ... will be welcomed, lock, stock and barrel by persons who pray at every meal to a God they visualize as white, whose son they also think was white, and who they believe is going to rapture them all into the sky upon the blowing of some heavenly trumpet, after which point all those who don't think as they think will be burned in an eternal lake of fire," Wise wrote in his blog back in 2008.


                    [ Yet we notice that HE wants to "lock up" those who don't think like he does. As he explains Fascism to us, then he shows us what a fascist looks like ]

                    Wise was sure to take a punch at Christians on Twitter just in case.

                    "People who believe in a God of hell/damnation deserve to be mocked viciously and run out of public square," the atheist tweeted back in 2012.

                    Wise has made a career of bashing whites including himself and resumed his anti-white narrative on the Harvard campus.

                    [Wise] attributes his success to multiple forms of [white] privilege, College Fixs Alexander Pease pointed out. The author of White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son and Dear White America: Letter to a New Minority instead emphasized his own wokeness. Wise boasted that he had never been invited to speak by ICE distinguishing himself from a biracial consultant on the panel discussion before his keynote.

                    Along with bashing whites, Wise also boosted his popularity amongst progressive Harvard students through his pro-LGBTQ rhetoric.


                    He described his teenage daughter as militant, straight and cis-gendered ally to the struggle against transphobia, cisnormativity, and heterosexism and heteronormativity, Pease recounted. He jokingly asked the audience to pray for him and his wife as their daughter applies to colleges. The activist emphasized the importance of identifying institutional barriers to diversity and inclusion. White supremacy does not only exist on a case-by-case basis, but more broadly serves to shape the superstructure of society, Wise told the audience.


                    [ Strange sex fetishes..has problems with people who have the wrong skin color...says the president is a racist *yawns* another leftist nut ]

                    Trump is [and] always was [racist], Wise claimed before the Harvard crowd. [His election shows that] this country is more sexist and more racist than I realized.

                    He said Republicans support of Trump emphasizes the importance of educating Americans about their so-called privilege in the current political climate.


                    https://onenewsnow.com/education/201...o-be-locked-up

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                      All left wing sources. From the same 'news' (political propaganda) media that was flogging on Trump / Russian collusion for 2+ years, and I'm supposed to take their word for it? Yeah, right. The 'news' (political propaganda) media has destroyed their credibility to the point they don't have any left. Sorry.

                      One man's hyperbole, exaggeration, miss-speaking, or political rhetoric become his political opponent's lies. Like I said, no credibility left from the media.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
                        All left wing sources. From the same 'news' (political propaganda) media that was flogging on Trump / Russian collusion for 2+ years, and I'm supposed to take their word for it? Yeah, right. The 'news' (political propaganda) media has destroyed their credibility to the point they don't have any left. Sorry.

                        One man's hyperbole, exaggeration, miss-speaking, or political rhetoric become his political opponent's lies. Like I said, no credibility left from the media.
                        Some things some of us want to deny...

                        ... so we can call the president a liar

                        ------------------------------------------------------------------

                        In Trumps words (spoken at a recent rally in Green Bay),

                        The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. Then the doctor and mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.

                        In response, RollingStone senior writer Jamil Smith tweeted, President Trump keeps telling the same lie about abortion doctors murdering healthy fetuses after delivery. This doesnt happen. Yet he said it again last night. This is precisely the kind of hysteria that inspires people who murder doctors and patients.

                        According to Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, What Trump asserted, for the second time, is false, illegal and simply not happening nor would it happen. She claimed that the president not only straight-up lied but also vilified women, families and doctors facing situations every single one of us prays we never encounter.

                        Huffington Post adds this: The recent focus on the alleged horrors of late-term abortions is especially fact-free. Only 1.3 percent of abortions take place after 21 weeks, and experts say these involve pregnancies that endanger the mother (and by extension the baby) or severe fetal anomalies that are incompatible with life.

                        First, President Trump said nothing about the baby being healthy (contra the tweet of Smith). Instead, he spoke about the very real situation in which a baby survives an abortion (or, presumably, is born with a life-threatening defect) and is allowed to die. Thats why Congress keeps trying to pass the Born Alive Protection Act.

                        In its current form, the bill reads, To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.

                        This is a real bill designed to address real, life-and-death situations.

                        Not only so, but it was Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam who provided Trump with his main talking points about infanticide.

                        As Northam infamously said during a radio interview,

                        If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if thats what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion.

                        Yet the left rails on Trump for calling this out rather than on Northam for saying it.

                        To repeat: These things are really happening.

                        An official government document dated Sept. 23, 2016, notes, In 2002, Congress responded by passing the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which was signed by President George W. Bush and is current federal law. This law recognized a child who is born alive after a failed abortion attempt, as a legal person under the laws of the United States. The legal definition of live birth includes any sign of life, such as breath, heartbeat, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles.

                        Unfortunately, incidents involving born alive children being killed after an attempted abortion have continued after this law was passed. Infanticide is unacceptable in a civilized society, regardless of what one may think about abortion itself. It should be uncontroversial for the federal government to supplement current law with enforcement protections for born-alive children after attempted abortions. That is why Congress must pass the proposed legislation known as the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act (H.R. 3504/S. 2066).

                        Trump is not lying. These things are happening. They may happen just as he described (with the baby being wrapped in a blanket) or they may not (perhaps the baby is left naked and crying on a table). But they are happening, nonetheless.

                        Yet, to repeat, theres no outcry from the left about these horrors. The outcry is about the president drawing attention to the horrors.

                        Liberals certainly thought infanticide was real enough in 2002, when protecting infants was so uncontroversial that it passed without a single Democratic opponent. Since then, the CDCs data only confirms these atrocities as do mountains of eyewitness testimony, grand jury reports, survivors own stories, and admissions by doctors like Northam himself!


                        Second, what point is made by saying, Only 1.3 percent of abortions take place after 21 weeks? What if the sentence read, Only 1.3 percent of abortions take place after birth? Would that lessen the severity of the crime? We only kill a tiny percentage of babies once theyre born!

                        Lets also put this in real-life numbers.

                        According to a just-released CDC report, in New York City in 2015, the number of abortions at or after 21 weeks was 1,485 while the number of homicide victims was 352.

                        Shall we celebrate the fact that this (allegedly) represents only 1.3 percent of abortions?


                        These, in short, are the facts:

                        States like New York have passed laws allowing for abortions right up to the time of delivery. Infanticide is taking place. And in countries like the Netherlands, 650 babies a year [are] euthanized so that their parents dont have to witness them struggle with disability or disease.


                        In light of all this, Im glad that President Trump continues to speak up. He is addressing something terribly evil, and it behooves every person of conscience to stand with him in standing for the rights of the least of these.


                        https://www.wnd.com/2019/05/is-trump...t-infanticide/

                        .. ..

                        It's not a baby.

                        Unless & until we say it's a baby.

                        So something that happened to fall from a womans "place," is disposable.

                        UNLESS we say it's a baby.

                        We change and effect reality by our words you see ?

                        Aren't we clever & powerful ? Like Gods we are !!

                        -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        Kristan Hawkins, who leads Students for Life of America, was speaking to an audience at Boston College when a student asked her about providing medical care for children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border.

                        "Do you believe that a baby who is born alive during an abortion at Planned Parenthood should get care?" Hawkins asked the student.

                        "No," the student replies.

                        "So do you think it's a baby?" Hawkins pressed.

                        "No," the student replies again.

                        "Why?" the pro-lifer asks.

                        "Because they're performing an abortion," the student responds. "So, for that, they've already determined that it's not a baby."


                        https://onenewsnow.com/pro-life/2019...bortion-debate

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                          Some things some of us want to deny...

                          ... so we can call the president a liar

                          ------------------------------------------------------------------

                          In Trumps words (spoken at a recent rally in Green Bay),

                          The baby is born, the mother meets with the doctor, they take care of the baby, they wrap the baby beautifully. Then the doctor and mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.

                          In response, RollingStone senior writer Jamil Smith tweeted, President Trump keeps telling the same lie about abortion doctors murdering healthy fetuses after delivery. This doesnt happen. Yet he said it again last night. This is precisely the kind of hysteria that inspires people who murder doctors and patients.

                          According to Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, What Trump asserted, for the second time, is false, illegal and simply not happening nor would it happen. She claimed that the president not only straight-up lied but also vilified women, families and doctors facing situations every single one of us prays we never encounter.

                          Huffington Post adds this: The recent focus on the alleged horrors of late-term abortions is especially fact-free. Only 1.3 percent of abortions take place after 21 weeks, and experts say these involve pregnancies that endanger the mother (and by extension the baby) or severe fetal anomalies that are incompatible with life.

                          First, President Trump said nothing about the baby being healthy (contra the tweet of Smith). Instead, he spoke about the very real situation in which a baby survives an abortion (or, presumably, is born with a life-threatening defect) and is allowed to die. Thats why Congress keeps trying to pass the Born Alive Protection Act.

                          In its current form, the bill reads, To amend title 18, United States Code, to prohibit a health care practitioner from failing to exercise the proper degree of care in the case of a child who survives an abortion or attempted abortion.

                          This is a real bill designed to address real, life-and-death situations.

                          Not only so, but it was Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam who provided Trump with his main talking points about infanticide.

                          As Northam infamously said during a radio interview,

                          If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if thats what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion.

                          Yet the left rails on Trump for calling this out rather than on Northam for saying it.

                          To repeat: These things are really happening.

                          An official government document dated Sept. 23, 2016, notes, In 2002, Congress responded by passing the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which was signed by President George W. Bush and is current federal law. This law recognized a child who is born alive after a failed abortion attempt, as a legal person under the laws of the United States. The legal definition of live birth includes any sign of life, such as breath, heartbeat, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles.

                          Unfortunately, incidents involving born alive children being killed after an attempted abortion have continued after this law was passed. Infanticide is unacceptable in a civilized society, regardless of what one may think about abortion itself. It should be uncontroversial for the federal government to supplement current law with enforcement protections for born-alive children after attempted abortions. That is why Congress must pass the proposed legislation known as the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act (H.R. 3504/S. 2066).

                          Trump is not lying. These things are happening. They may happen just as he described (with the baby being wrapped in a blanket) or they may not (perhaps the baby is left naked and crying on a table). But they are happening, nonetheless.

                          Yet, to repeat, theres no outcry from the left about these horrors. The outcry is about the president drawing attention to the horrors.

                          Liberals certainly thought infanticide was real enough in 2002, when protecting infants was so uncontroversial that it passed without a single Democratic opponent. Since then, the CDCs data only confirms these atrocities as do mountains of eyewitness testimony, grand jury reports, survivors own stories, and admissions by doctors like Northam himself!


                          Second, what point is made by saying, Only 1.3 percent of abortions take place after 21 weeks? What if the sentence read, Only 1.3 percent of abortions take place after birth? Would that lessen the severity of the crime? We only kill a tiny percentage of babies once theyre born!

                          Lets also put this in real-life numbers.

                          According to a just-released CDC report, in New York City in 2015, the number of abortions at or after 21 weeks was 1,485 while the number of homicide victims was 352.

                          Shall we celebrate the fact that this (allegedly) represents only 1.3 percent of abortions?


                          These, in short, are the facts:

                          States like New York have passed laws allowing for abortions right up to the time of delivery. Infanticide is taking place. And in countries like the Netherlands, 650 babies a year [are] euthanized so that their parents dont have to witness them struggle with disability or disease.


                          In light of all this, Im glad that President Trump continues to speak up. He is addressing something terribly evil, and it behooves every person of conscience to stand with him in standing for the rights of the least of these.


                          https://www.wnd.com/2019/05/is-trump...t-infanticide/

                          .. ..

                          It's not a baby.

                          Unless & until we say it's a baby.

                          So something that happened to fall from a womans "place," is disposable.

                          UNLESS we say it's a baby.

                          We change and effect reality by our words you see ?

                          Aren't we clever & powerful ? Like Gods we are !!

                          -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          Kristan Hawkins, who leads Students for Life of America, was speaking to an audience at Boston College when a student asked her about providing medical care for children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border.

                          "Do you believe that a baby who is born alive during an abortion at Planned Parenthood should get care?" Hawkins asked the student.

                          "No," the student replies.

                          "So do you think it's a baby?" Hawkins pressed.

                          "No," the student replies again.

                          "Why?" the pro-lifer asks.

                          "Because they're performing an abortion," the student responds. "So, for that, they've already determined that it's not a baby."


                          https://onenewsnow.com/pro-life/2019...bortion-debate
                          Yet more evidence of liberal / progressive indoctrination in the education system.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                            Yet more evidence of liberal / progressive indoctrination in the education system.
                            Why don't we put a drunken rapist on the Supreme court to overturn Roe v. Wade?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              Why don't we put a drunken rapist on the Supreme court to overturn Roe v. Wade?
                              About as connected to reality as you ever are.

                              In case your were wondering: Why Did Brett Kavanaugh Side With Planned Parenthood?
                              nymag.com/intelligencer/.../why-did-brett-kavanaugh-side-with-planned-parenthood.ht...
                              Dec 10, 2018 - But pro-choice advocates are reluctant to read too much into Kavanaugh's vote. I don't think this is a harbinger of what's to come, says the ...


                              You are just so wrong about about oh so many things (as are most liberals).
                              It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.

                              https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/194...rant-it-s-just

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                              • #45
                                Why do liberals hate America ?

                                One reason

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                                Yes, the political left does hate America.

                                They hate America for many reasons, but only one that matters to the rest of us.

                                The left hates America because of its Constitution.

                                Our Constitution was designed by men who actually had lives outside of government.

                                They knew human nature and that the world was filled with both good people and bad people. They knew that government at a level above the individual states was necessary to hold those states together and protect the new nation.

                                The men who sat down together in Philadelphia used what they knew of human nature and what they had learned by studying the governments that came before them to build a constitution that would order the affairs of the new nation.

                                That new government was purposefully divided into three separate branches, each of which would be jealous of protecting its own turf from encroachments by the other two. They did this purposefully, to build a government that kept itself in check.

                                So it is Americas Constitution that leftists take issue with. Its genius is why they hate America.

                                Leftists despise checks and balances.

                                The idea that government power is not absolute is anathema to them.

                                They work unceasingly to increase government power, in conjunction with their own power, because that is what increases their power over the rest of us. Government, by its very nature, only grows larger over time


                                Wars, for instance, do wonders to build government power. So do social programs funded by the government. So do open borders, which flood the nation with more people in need of social programs.

                                To most of us, especially deplorables living our lives outside of major metropolitan areas, life is all about living our lives. Work, family, church, community, recreation and so on.

                                Do the leftists demonstrating on the streets for a few bucks from Soros have any of those things to occupy their life?

                                If they did, they wouldnt be there.

                                Big government is their religion; power over others is their utopia (heaven). They want raw power to force their brand of utopia upon the rest of us. They preach diversity, but their singular focus is building power to destroy all views except their own. Sounds rather dictatorial or monarchical to me.


                                The lefts contradictions mean nothing to them. Thus, abort as many babies as you like, right up and until after birth, is not at odds with their opposition to the state executing murderers who have exhausted all their judicial appeals.

                                It never occurs to leftists that a baby is a unique combination of DNA from both the man and the woman.

                                Thus women alone should have the absolute right to kill their baby at any time up to and including after birth.

                                In other words, leftists believe they have the right to kill a unique person just because they dont want it any longer. Think about a government full of people with that mindset.

                                The leftists first love is power. Power flows from big government. Controlling that kind of government gives them the ability to destroy all competing beliefs especially the Christian faith and worldview, because Christians view human government as inferior to and subservient to God.

                                Leftists cannot tolerate a moral order based upon something greater than themselves, because it means they are inferior and can be held accountable by a greater power. Leftists live for power over others, because that is how they implement their utopian dreams. Whether its using the power of the state to force a small business to decorate homosexual wedding cakes, jailing protesters outside of abortion clinics, or flooding our nation with illegal immigrants, the left is always certain about the rightness of its cause.

                                But dont take my word for it. Heres the paragraph that brought me down this trail:

                                Of course, that doesnt mean the American people must continue to use the death penalty, [Justice Neil Gorsuch] wrote. The same Constitution that permits states to authorize capital punishment also allows them to outlaw it. But it does mean that the judiciary bears no license to end a debate reserved for the people and their representatives. (Neil Gorsuch, writing for the majority.)

                                That last sentence is the key. Judges who believe the Constitution is amended through the constitutional process are the key to Americas freedom. And America is key to the worlds freedom. Never forget that.

                                It is the United States Constitution that makes it almost impossible for the left to gain and hold political power in America. They have failed again under Trump. That is the cause of their unhinged anger and rage.

                                They want to impose their utopian religion on the entire world, so we can all be as happy as they are.

                                Their utopian creation was to be our only remaining object of worship.


                                https://www.wnd.com/2019/05/the-key-...hates-america/

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