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  • Jihad4Beer
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Originally posted by Rakkasan View Post
    but you could also say both were "hit pieces" that tried to sway the electorate ...
    Absolutely.

    And make fame and fortune for Moore and D'Souza.

    Never doubt the pundits and others who make a living selling the world their opinions that illicit emotional responses, are doing so from a purely objective point of view and out of the goodness of their hearts.

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  • Rakkasan
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    Originally posted by Jihad4Beer View Post
    I would say Michael Moore and Dinesh D'Souza are of practioners of the same craft, they just appeal to different audiences.

    I would be hard pressed to call them documentaries as that implies a somewhat more objective look at something, though I suppose any subject outside of nature documentaries that deals with human topics or history is probably never completely objective.

    And while Farenheit 911 seemed to reflect on the past event, 2016 was making predictions of a future event.

    Though I would say any criticism towards Bush for taking the country to war in Iraq after the fact, is much more warranted than some dire prediction of America in 2016 if Obama were to be elected.
    but you could also say both were "hit pieces" that tried to sway the electorate ...

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  • Jihad4Beer
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Originally posted by Rakkasan View Post
    Wow you are right i totally forgot it didnt get the nod .... thanks and sorry for the mix up on my part i just remembered all the oscar hype and that lump of shit making some comment there during the show that i thought he won...
    I would say Michael Moore and Dinesh D'Souza are of practioners of the same craft, they just appeal to different audiences.

    I would be hard pressed to call them documentaries as that implies a somewhat more objective look at something, though I suppose any subject outside of nature documentaries that deals with human topics or history is probably never completely objective.

    And while Farenheit 911 seemed to reflect on the past event, 2016 was making predictions of a future event.

    Though I would say any criticism towards Bush for taking the country to war in Iraq after the fact, is much more warranted than some dire prediction of America in 2016 if Obama were to be elected.

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  • Rakkasan
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Originally posted by Jihad4Beer View Post
    Not to just pop in on this message board and spoil the fun by clarifying the boring old facts but.....

    It was not the Michael Moore film "Fahrenheit 911" that won an Oscar or was even nominated for one.

    It was "Bowling for Columbine."

    Carry on.
    Wow you are right i totally forgot it didnt get the nod .... thanks and sorry for the mix up on my part i just remembered all the oscar hype and that lump of shit making some comment there during the show that i thought he won...

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  • Jihad4Beer
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Originally posted by Sluggo View Post
    Of course. A non-objective, full of assumptions and half-truths, politically motivated look at guns in this nation being awarded by Hollywood. I know I am shocked...
    Right, I was gonna add that since it was anti-gun it's just as good for some of you to get bent out of shape about. But decided to leave that out. But glad you came through Sluggo.

    Anyways, the point of the OP was that the Oscar snubs an Obama bashing film like 2016 while awarding a Bush bashing flim like Fahrenheit 911. And that's not factually correct.

    But continue to be all mad about it and swear that everyone else is "drinking the koolaid".

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  • Sluggo
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Originally posted by Jihad4Beer View Post
    Not to just pop in on this message board and spoil the fun by clarifying the boring old facts but.....

    It was not the Michael Moore film "Fahrenheit 911" that won an Oscar or was even nominated for one.

    It was "Bowling for Columbine."

    Carry on.
    Of course. A non-objective, full of assumptions and half-truths, politically motivated look at guns in this nation being awarded by Hollywood. I know I am shocked...

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  • Jihad4Beer
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Not to just pop in on this message board and spoil the fun by clarifying the boring old facts but.....

    It was not the Michael Moore film "Fahrenheit 911" that won an Oscar or was even nominated for one.

    It was "Bowling for Columbine."

    Carry on.

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  • Sluggo
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    What has been seen cannot be unseen...

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  • fishjoel
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
    Maybe I'm being simplistic here but have you considered that maybe they just didn't like it rather than being a political conspiracy?
    Agreed, that's why I said I would have to see it for myself to see how well it was made. That aside, it wouldn't be a shocker if that actually was the case.

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  • PeterUK75
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Maybe I'm being simplistic here but have you considered that maybe they just didn't like it rather than being a political conspiracy?

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  • fishjoel
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    Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
    ahoy Fishjoel,

    i haven't seen it, but be meanin' to.

    i think Mr. D'Souza be a very smart swabby - he's the only fella i'd ever seen hold his ground reasonably well against the mighty Christopher Hitchens, i've watched a few 'o thar debates on the internets.

    did ye see it, and did ye enjoy it?

    - MeadHallPirate
    Saw the movie, did not see the debate. The movie was pretty horrible. One dude was straight up gay and the other dude was like....either not gay or didn't know he was gay yet. They go up to work on the mountain with the cattle and BAM! Buttsex!

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  • soot
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    Re: Oscar SNubs &quot;2016&quot;

    Originally posted by MeadHallPirate
    ...and best supportin' actor (John C. Reilly).
    If the world was fair he'd be nominated for something for damn near every movie he's in.

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  • Lurker
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    Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
    If Michael Moore is so FOS why is he always being invited onto Fox and treated with respect?
    Is the Conservative media so hypocritical in it's thirst for ratings?
    I only post this because all the Conservatives are calling his movies crap.
    Apparently, Fox likes crap.
    I honestly think that Moore is my least favorite liberal, and I can't be the only one. The only fox I seem to watch are the hitchens debates, and the Moore debates. Hitch because even though I disagree with almost everything that he says, I love watching him bury the poor bastards. Moore is a different story. I tend to watch so I can see him lose.

    I don't watch any tv news outside of YouTube. I haven't had cable in years. But if I hate that fat fuck as much as I do, he's gotta be great for ratings among normal fox viewers.

    And as far as 2016 is concerned - i filed that under f9/11 and promptly ignored it.

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  • fishjoel
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    Eh, there was a lot of hype over "Brokeback Mountain" and that movie was pretty damn horrible. It's all about what agenda you're pushing. I'd have to see the movie in question to make any judgement call of my own. I'd probably approach it with caution because I know that there are a lot of logic fallacies and wild assertions in these types of films.

    Has anyone in commenting in this thread actually seen the movie? If not, then all of this conversation is kinda moot, is it not?

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  • USCitizen
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    If Michael Moore is so FOS why is he always being invited onto Fox and treated with respect?
    Is the Conservative media so hypocritical in it's thirst for ratings?
    I only post this because all the Conservatives are calling his movies crap.
    Apparently, Fox likes crap.

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