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  • A&E: Welcome Back Phil!

    Original Thread here...

    http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/cult...k-dynasty.html

    The A&E network today welcomed Phil Robertson and the whole family back to their show Duck Dynasty, likely using the statement that they should have used in the first place:

    That is why we reacted so quickly and strongly to a recent interview with Phil Robertson. While Phil's comments made in the interview reflect his personal views based on his own beliefs and his own personal journey, he and his family have publicly stated they regret the "coarse language" he used and the misinterpretation of his core beliefs based only on the article. He also made it clear he would "never incite or encourage hate." We at A+E Networks expressed our disappointment with his statements in the article and reiterate that they are not views we hold.

    But Duck Dynasty is not a show about one man's views. It resonates with a large audience because it is a show about family a family that America has come to love. As you might have seen in many episodes, they come together to reflect and pray for unity, tolerance and forgiveness. These are three values that we at A+E Networks also feel strongly about.

    So after discussions with the Robertson family, as well as consulting with numerous advocacy groups, A&E has decided to resume filming Duck Dynasty later this spring with the entire Robertson family.

    We will also use this moment to launch a national public service campaign (PSA) promoting unity, tolerance and acceptance among all people, a message that supports our core values as a company and the values found in Duck Dynasty. These PSAs will air across our entire portfolio.
    In other news we now know that the word 'indefinite' means 'two weeks'

    This was strictly a dollar and cents on the part of the owners of the A&E Network. Duck Dynasty provided the vast majority of A&E's profit.

    Anybody think this wouldn't happen?

    A&E Welcomes Phil Robertson Back to 'Duck Dynasty'

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    Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

    Yeppers, I saw that same news here.

    it took them a while, but they came to their bottom line senses.

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    • #3
      Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

      Our long national nightmare is over.

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        I don't watch a lot of television and basically no reality tv but I was glad to see the right stuck together on this issue.

        I didn't think the guy said anything especially offensive. He doesn't understand homosexuality, thinks its a sin, but won't judge someone because of their sexuality. That seems like a very mature and tolerant attitude to take toward a different opinion. That tolerant attitude is completely different from the mean spirited and clearly very personal views recently expressed by Alec Baldwin, Martin Bashir, or Melissa Harris Perry and yet they get passes for their bad behavior.

        It's acceptable for Bashir to advocate for shitting down Sarah Palin's throat then sewing it shut but should someone insist she buy her own birth control then that's proof of hating women. It's acceptable for Baldwin to threaten to shove his foot up the ass of "cock suckers" and "fudge packers", as he calls them, except that they would obviously like it too much because all gay men want to get rammed up the ass by him but saying you don't understand homosexuality means you're intolerant of homosexuals.

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          The whole thing is ridiculous anyway, who cares what that person thinks outside the subject matter of the show?

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            Originally posted by Whipple View Post
            I don't watch a lot of television and basically no reality tv but I was glad to see the right stuck together on this issue.

            I didn't think the guy said anything especially offensive. He doesn't understand homosexuality, thinks its a sin, but won't judge someone because of their sexuality. That seems like a very mature and tolerant attitude to take toward a different opinion. That tolerant attitude is completely different from the mean spirited and clearly very personal views recently expressed by Alec Baldwin, Martin Bashir, or Melissa Harris Perry and yet they get passes for their bad behavior.

            It's acceptable for Bashir to advocate for shitting down Sarah Palin's throat then sewing it shut but should someone insist she buy her own birth control then that's proof of hating women. It's acceptable for Baldwin to threaten to shove his foot up the ass of "cock suckers" and "fudge packers", as he calls them, except that they would obviously like it too much because all gay men want to get rammed up the ass by him but saying you don't understand homosexuality means you're intolerant of homosexuals.
            You make it seem like Bashir and Baldwin did not have to face consequences. They got fired.


            Personally I think all of it is ridiculous and nobody should have gotten fired. But Phil Robertsen is not at all "better" than any of those other persons. You're playing the false equivalency card.

            Unlike Robertson, Baldwin expressed no discriminatory views on gay people, he only sweared. Bashir did a personal attack, what that has to do with any of this I don't know. And nobody finds what MHP said offensive, that's more fake outrage to create a false sense of equivalency.
            Last edited by erikvv; 01-01-2014, 03:35 AM.

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              Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

              Originally posted by tsquare View Post
              Original Thread here...

              http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/cult...k-dynasty.html

              The A&E network today welcomed Phil Robertson and the whole family back to their show Duck Dynasty, likely using the statement that they should have used in the first place:



              In other news we now know that the word 'indefinite' means 'two weeks'

              This was strictly a dollar and cents on the part of the owners of the A&E Network. Duck Dynasty provided the vast majority of A&E's profit.

              Anybody think this wouldn't happen?

              A&E Welcomes Phil Robertson Back to 'Duck Dynasty'

              Am suspecting the whole dustup resulted in a net win for A&E (and DD for that matter).

              Any viewers they may have lost due to the "outrageous remarks" by Robertson....will be more than made up by new viewers that may have never previously even heard of the show.


              Everybody wins excepts the poor ducks...bless their little webbed feet.






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                Should have never been suspended in the first place. One can only assume the entire purpose of the show was to find a group of people willing to say exactly what they have, to suspend them for it shows a real cowardice.

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                  Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

                  Originally posted by erikvv View Post
                  Unlike Robertson, Baldwin expressed no discriminatory views on gay people, he only sweared. Bashir did a personal attack, what that has to do with any of this I don't know. And nobody finds what MHP said offensive, that's more fake outrage to create a false sense of equivalency.
                  What was discriminatory about his statements on homosexuals?

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                    Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

                    Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                    The whole thing is ridiculous anyway, who cares what that person thinks outside the subject matter of the show?
                    I couldn't agree more. In my opinion, both sides were wrong -- As a high-profile celebrity with the #1 show, you can't expect to make personal comments that get noticed -- especially in such a sensitive environment as the United States with all its political correctness. On the other hand, Phil was able to freely share his opinion about homosexuals; Unfortunately, free speech some times includes consequences.

                    In my opinion, this whole situation was exaggerated because of a zero-tolerance, highly sensitive audience just looking for an opportunity to tarnish a self-proclaimed man of God.

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                      Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

                      What was discriminatory about his statements on homosexuals?
                      "We never, ever judge someone on who's going to heaven, hell. That's the Almighty's job. We just love 'em, give 'em the good news about Jesus whether they're homosexuals, drunks, terrorists."

                      Everything is blurred on whats right and whats wrong. Sin becomes fine, start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Dont be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they wont inherit the kingdom of God. Dont deceive yourself. Its not right.

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                        Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

                        Originally posted by jotathought View Post
                        I couldn't agree more. In my opinion, both sides were wrong -- As a high-profile celebrity with the #1 show, you can't expect to make personal comments that get noticed -- especially in such a sensitive environment as the United States with all its political correctness. On the other hand, Phil was able to freely share his opinion about homosexuals; Unfortunately, free speech some times includes consequences.

                        In my opinion, this whole situation was exaggerated because of a zero-tolerance, highly sensitive audience just looking for an opportunity to tarnish a self-proclaimed man of God.
                        to be fair, said "self proclaimed man of God" (not sure he'd call himself that, unless what you mean by that is christian. man of god has a priesty connotation to it) opened mouth and inserted foot (mostly with his comments on blacks being happier under segregation IMO). The ZT audience just harped about it and pointed.

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                          Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

                          Originally posted by erikvv View Post
                          "We never, ever judge someone on who's going to heaven, hell. That's the Almighty's job. We just love 'em, give 'em the good news about Jesus – whether they're homosexuals, drunks, terrorists."

                          “Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong. Sin becomes fine, start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”
                          discrimination
                          /disˌkriməˈnāSHən/


                          noun: discrimination; plural noun: discriminations

                          1. the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, esp. on the grounds of race, age, or sex.
                          Where do you see unjust or prejudiced behavior against homosexuals? After reading the comments, it seems he classifies homosexuality as a sin, just like prostitution, greediness, drunks, etc. How is that being discriminatory?

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                            Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

                            Originally posted by reality View Post
                            to be fair, said "self proclaimed man of God" (not sure he'd call himself that, unless what you mean by that is christian. man of god has a priesty connotation to it) opened mouth and inserted foot (mostly with his comments on blacks being happier under segregation IMO). The ZT audience just harped about it and pointed.
                            To clarify -- self-proclaimed man of God = Christian.

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                              Re: A&amp;E: Welcome Back Phil!

                              Originally posted by erikvv View Post
                              You make it seem like Bashir and Baldwin did not have to face consequences. They got fired.
                              Martin Bashir wasn't fired. MSNBC didn't even issue a comment on his segment. Baldwin was fired but seeing how long they waited and how many times he has lost his tempered and bellowed some variant of "YOU COCK SUCKER!", "YOU FUDGE PACKER!", "YOU FAGGOT!", before and after being hired by MSNBC, it's hard to genuinely believe his firing had to do with his comments and not his bottom of the barrel ratings. He's done it so often even Anderson Cooper wondered why he's allowed to get away with it when a Republican would be crucified for his repeated homophobic remarks. Perry hasn't been fired either and I'm not sure if MSNBC addressed her comments.

                              Personally I think all of it is ridiculous and nobody should have gotten fired. But Phil Robertsen is not at all "better" than any of those other persons. You're playing the false equivalency card.

                              Unlike Robertson, Baldwin expressed no discriminatory views on gay people, he only sweared.
                              They're not equivalent.

                              Baldwin, Bashir, and Perry's comments were mean spirited and offensive. They were directed at specific people who they disagree with and you're only giving them a pass because you share similar views. Who are you really kidding here? If someone advocated shitting down Michelle Obama's throat the left would be going crazy and screaming racism and sexism. You would be demanding their resignation.

                              Robertson did not say anything mean spirited or offensive. Being Christian doesn't mean you hate homosexuals - or fudge packers as liberals call them - and he certainly didn't advocate for anything bad to happen to them. He didn't wish them ill will, announce he hates them, or anything else.

                              Bashir did a personal attack, what that has to do with any of this I don't know. And nobody finds what MHP said offensive, that's more fake outrage to create a false sense of equivalency.
                              Again, who are you really kidding here? You know as well as I do that you would be frothing at the mouth if Fox News ran a segment on the skin color of Pres. Obama's children or advocated to shit down his wife's throat. You would go crazy if a Fox News host repeatedly called people he disagreed with faggots, fudge packers, cock suckers, etc.

                              It's a horrible double standard to have and that's why people are so angry.

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