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Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

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  • Alabamy
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by Imawhosure View Post
    Oh well, why would conservatives do anything? I mean, did you ever wonder what actually happens to the fetus? Has anyone ever asked?


    Oh, by the way............you people from Britain........for shame, for absolute shame.

    Shame requires intellectual honesty....

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  • Alabamy
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
    How about giving us couple of comparable actions by Conservatives.
    Maybe he's thinking about this incident, oh wait, no, that was a group of gay rights activist attacking Christian preachers at a Seattle Gay Rights Rally. Nevermind, just another example of liberal bullies.

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  • DavidSF
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by reality View Post
    Look at her responses in the report. You've had some experience with people turning on the CYA. . Where do you see her doing that? I see it clearly about mid way through once she realizes its not gonna be rug swept. She starts choosing her words and not admitting fault etc. Speaks to me that she isn't exactly excited about it.
    SHe also mentions she wants to settle outside of court etc. She wants to roll over. The students just want criminal charges filed and good for them.

    Secondly: They are misdemeanors now. But the girl she assaulted was 16. Assaulting a minor pumps the charge in TX idk about CA. Its also CA. 3 misdemeanors = 1 felony. Felons can't vote. 10 bucks theres a uni policy about profs convicted of assaulting minors and students of the college tenure or not.

    Battery of a minor, assault of a minor, and vandalism are not wrist slap charges. Not when you're a grown ass adult. Two kids in a slap fight? minor thing. An adult in a slap fight she started with a kid while abrogating her right to freedom of speech and expression in a designated free speech zone? O buddy. That's not gonna work out for her at all.
    Yeah, I accept your assessment: I read the complaint (well, the police report) and was reflecting on 20 years ago in the Claims arena about "diminution of Value" ... which I guess is more of a reality today, but back then, body shops and plaintiff attorneys were just ACHING to get one of our denials to court so they could codify the term from the bench. Another one, before my time, was "Loss of consortium" which was apparently successful because it was rare, but I did pay it on occasion. Mostly, men didn't want to admit in court their wee-wee was out of whack.

    Thanks for your insight.

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  • Imawhosure
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Oh well, why would conservatives do anything? I mean, did you ever wonder what actually happens to the fetus? Has anyone ever asked?

    Well, someone looked into it in the UK and here is what they found. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1732264

    And here you thought you got rid of Hitler, didn't you-)

    Let us hope they are not doing this here in the USA, but since we don't really hear much on the issue, nothing would surprise me.

    Oh, by the way............you people from Britain........for shame, for absolute shame.

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  • OldmanDan
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    BLAME THE VICTIM: Bureaucrat smears 16-year-old abortion protester battered by UCSB prof

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/25/bu...#ixzz2x0bv7QoI

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  • eohrnberger
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by Alabamy View Post
    I doubt there are many Santa Barbara juries that will convict the beast. As for any fines, she makes over $124,000 dollars a year for teaching about porn.

    Source....

    http://i.imgur.com/Jao2qeW.png
    Well done on finding her compensation. Is she really doing little more than teaching porn? To like students?

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  • Alabamy
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    I doubt there are many Santa Barbara juries that will convict the beast. As for any fines, she makes over $124,000 dollars a year for teaching about porn.

    Source....

    http://i.imgur.com/Jao2qeW.png

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  • reality
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by Good1 View Post
    Is it safe to suggest that someone like that professor welcomes some kind of lawsuit or other legal proceeding in which she can grandstand that new "catch phrase?"

    It is my observation that, since all of the charges are misdemeanors, it is not likely she has any down side in such proceedings other than a fine and, maybe, a court-ordered "apology" ... so getting the DA to file charges is exactly what she wants so this "triggered" vernacular can make its way to being court affirmed(?).
    Look at her responses in the report. You've had some experience with people turning on the CYA. . Where do you see her doing that? I see it clearly about mid way through once she realizes its not gonna be rug swept. She starts choosing her words and not admitting fault etc. Speaks to me that she isn't exactly excited about it.
    SHe also mentions she wants to settle outside of court etc. She wants to roll over. The students just want criminal charges filed and good for them.

    Secondly: They are misdemeanors now. But the girl she assaulted was 16. Assaulting a minor pumps the charge in TX idk about CA. Its also CA. 3 misdemeanors = 1 felony. Felons can't vote. 10 bucks theres a uni policy about profs convicted of assaulting minors and students of the college tenure or not.

    Battery of a minor, assault of a minor, and vandalism are not wrist slap charges. Not when you're a grown ass adult. Two kids in a slap fight? minor thing. An adult in a slap fight she started with a kid while abrogating her right to freedom of speech and expression in a designated free speech zone? O buddy. That's not gonna work out for her at all.

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  • Whipple
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I'd have to agree. Further, I hope that she in fact uses that defense in court. See how far that'll get her. LOL.
    In California? It will likely get her off.

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  • DavidSF
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by reality View Post
    Yeah "triggering" is the new catch all term for "isms" . It apparently effects anyone of a sufficiently liberal nature. Mostly it seems to occur in feminist studies/ethnic studies etc courses, from generally females especially the spoiled brat types.
    Quite literally it is the "adult" (and I use that term loosely) form of throwing a temper tantrum.
    Is it safe to suggest that someone like that professor welcomes some kind of lawsuit or other legal proceeding in which she can grandstand that new "catch phrase?"

    It is my observation that, since all of the charges are misdemeanors, it is not likely she has any down side in such proceedings other than a fine and, maybe, a court-ordered "apology" ... so getting the DA to file charges is exactly what she wants so this "triggered" vernacular can make its way to being court affirmed(?).

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  • Alabamy
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Here is the police report if anyone is interested. Seriously this is not to be believed. The cop in this case seems more than a little baffled by this so called educated woman's responses......

    http://media.independent.com/news/do...ice-Report.pdf



    The police report — parts of which were redacted upon release, including the reporting officer’s name — is reproduced in its entirety below:

    At about 1500 hours, I spoke to Miller-Young by telephone. I recorded my conversation with Miller-Young on my digital voice recorder.

    In essence, Miller-Young told me she felt “triggered” by the images on the posters. Miller-Young stated that she had been walking through the Arbor to get back to South Hall. Miller-Young said she was approached by people who gave her literature about abortion. Miller-Young said that she found this literature and pictures disturbing. Miller-Young said that she found this material offensive because she teaches about women’s “reproductive rights” and is pregnant. She said an argument ensued about the graphic nature of these images. Miller-Young said that she [sic] situation became “passionate” and that other students in the area were “triggered” in a negative way by the imagery. Miller-Young said that she and others began demanding that the images be taken down. Miller-Young said that the demonstrators refused. At which point, Miller-Young said that she “just grabbed it [the sign] from this girl’s hands.” Asked if there had been a struggle, Miller-Young stated, “I’m stronger so I was able to take the poster.”

    Miller-Young said that the poster had been taken back to her office. Once in her office, a “safe space” described by Miller-Young, Miller-Young said that they were still upset by the images on the poster and had destroyed it. Miller-Young said that she was “mainly” responsible for the poster’s destruction because she was the only one with scissors.

    I asked if Miller-Young had carried the poster into her office or if she had students carried [sic] it. Miller-Young said that she had carried the poster but that there were students with her. Miller-Young went on to say that because the poster was upsetting to her and other students, she felt that the activists did not have the right to be there.

    I asked Miller-Young if she knew the students who had been with her (the students I had seen in the video). Miller-Young said that she was under the impression that I had already spoke to one of the students (Ito). Miller-Young refused to provide me with the unidentified student’s name, stating that she was not comfortable with it. Miller-Young said that she was concerned with protecting her students who she believed were “following” her.”

    I asked Miller-Young if she felt anything wrong had happened this afternoon. Miller-Young said that she did not know enough about the limits of free speech to answer my question. Miller-Young went on to say that she was not sure what an acceptable and legal response to hate speech would be. Miller-Young said that she was willing to pay for the cost of the sign but would “hate it.”

    I explained to Miller-Young that the victims in this case felt that a crime had occurred. I told Miller-Young that I appreciated the fact that she felt traumatized by the imagery but that her response constituted a violation of law. Furthermore, I told Miller-Young that I was worried about the example she had set for her undergraduate students.

    Miller-Young said that her students “were wanting her to take” the sign away. Miller-Young argued that she set a good example for her students. Miller-Young likened her behavior to that of a “conscientious objector.” Miller-Young said that she did not feel that what she had done was criminal. However, she acknowledged that the sign did not belong to her.

    I asked Miller-Young what crimes she felt the pro-life group had violated. Miller-Young replied that their coming to campus and showing graphic imagery was insensitive to the community. I clarified the difference between University policy and law to Miller-Young and asked her again what law had been violated. Miller-Young said that she believed the pro-life group may have violated University policy. Miller-Young said that her actions today were in defense of her students and her own safety.

    Miller-Young said she felt that this issue was not criminal and expressed a desire to find a resolution outside of the legal system. Miller-Young continued and stated that she had the “moral” right to act the way she did.

    I asked Miller-Young if she could have behaved differently in this instance. There was a long pause, “I’ve said that I think I did the right thing. But I acknowledge that I probably should not have taken their poster.” Miller-Young also said that she wished the anti-abortion group had taken down the images when they demanded them to. Miller-Young also suggested that the group had violated her rights. I asked Miller-Young what right the group had violated. Miller-Young responded, “My personal right to go to work and not be in harm.” Miller-Young elaborated that one of the reasons she had felt so alarmed by this imagery is because she is about to have the test for Down Syndrome. Miller-Young said, “I work here, why do they get to intervene in that?”

    I explained to Miller-Young that vandalism, battery, and robbery had occurred. I also told Miller-Young that individuals involved in this case desired prosecution.

    I later booked the torn sign into evidence at UCPD. I also uploaded the audio files of my interviews into digital evidence.

    I request that a copy of my report, along with all related supplemental reports, be forwarded to the District Attorney’s Office for review.
    Other links to the updated story, it's good to see this is getting some attention in MSM.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...-her-students/

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2L03920140322

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  • eohrnberger
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by reality View Post
    BD, you've gotta admit its more often than not liberals who pull shit like this. More than that, she claimed the absolute moral right to do so, because those images "triggered" her. Which is a liberal thing, the triggering.

    Not to say that conservatives don't have their share of wackadoodles. Who are distinct from this type of wackadoodle, but just as bad.
    I'd have to agree. Further, I hope that she in fact uses that defense in court. See how far that'll get her. LOL.

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  • reality
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    Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    It's a human problem, an affection, not limited to only liberals. But, never let an opportunity to go not used. You related to Hannity? LOL

    All this so called teacher did was to try to shut up those she doesn't agree with. Same behavior seen on the school yards of my youth. Before those people were con or lib.

    That anyone would attribute the base side of human nature to just one party, or ideological belief is absurd.
    BD, you've gotta admit its more often than not liberals who pull shit like this. More than that, she claimed the absolute moral right to do so, because those images "triggered" her. Which is a liberal thing, the triggering.

    Not to say that conservatives don't have their share of wackadoodles. Who are distinct from this type of wackadoodle, but just as bad.

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  • eohrnberger
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
    We wouldn't want someone to be held responsible for their own actions. Just can't control those emotions, it's just not the liberal way.
    What do you expect? All along these people's public education they've not been taught any sort of restraint on them being offended. Goes along with over political correctness, participation awards, and the liberal / progressives dominating academia and education to the point of choking off any real life lessons that need to be learned. End result is a crop of 'marshmallow' kids who don't have a prayer in hell of successfully competing in the now global economy.

    Set up to fail and failed by the public education academics and theorists.

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  • OldmanDan
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    Re: Charges filed against the abortion protest sign stealing UC Santa Barbara professor

    Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    It's a human problem, an affection, not limited to only liberals. But, never let an opportunity to go not used. You related to Hannity? LOL

    All this so called teacher did was to try to shut up those she doesn't agree with. Same behavior seen on the school yards of my youth. Before those people were con or lib.

    That anyone would attribute the base side of human nature to just one party, or ideological belief is absurd.
    How about giving us couple of comparable actions by Conservatives.

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