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The faiure of neoliberal GOP capitalism...

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  • The faiure of neoliberal GOP capitalism...

    I hardly expect any conservative here to take a few minutes in their spare time to watch what Mr. Roberts. of the Reagan administration says, for it would only show the treasonous incompetence of the GOP who brought this crap back from the 1920s, and who were operating on behalf of ONLY the elites in this nation, but I posted the video anyways, for although I just found this interview or debate with Roberts, what he says basically is what I have been saying since day one. Roberts came to his conclusion about the failure of capitalism, the neoliberal kind, by looking at the data, whereas my own opinion was formed by looking at the reality of everyday life when it comes to the lives of working people and the middle class.

    It appears that regardless of the hatred of FDR by conservatives, the man was a damn genius when it comes to an economy that actually is devised to help the population of a nation to have decent standards of living and physical security. For without security human beings start acting crazy, creating tremendous societal problems and disorder, and even risks the republic form of gov't.

    And in the past the failure of neoliberal capitalism has made real deal state ownership socialism attractive, when each time that has been tried it creates the greatest and the most evil tyranny.

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    BTW, Mr Roberts served under Reagan and is touted as being the father of reaganomics. So, that might make the cons here want to listen to the man since he is not some bleeding heart liberal doing the loony tunes

    What you should take away from what he says is that the GOPhers should never vote for another GOP candidate, AND the only thing that will get rid of this deal of the private sector, big money interests destroying America is simply a revolution, preferably at the ballot boxes, by NOT voting for the establishment GOP or Democratic party.

    He also explains where this executive action power originated, which is used like some kind of Caesar today, by passing the balance of power. It was birthed during the GOP Nixon admin. when the GOP could not get control in congress but wanted to get some of their agenda up and rolling. And while the consititution did not cover this, giving such power to the president, they found a way around it. So, when you bitch and complain about a non GOP president actting like Caesar, just remember, your boys created it, so stop the bitching.

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    • #3
      Look, I do not expect any conservative here, or libertarians, to listen to Dr. Roberts, even given he was a treasury official under Reagan, or that he is a columnist to the Wall Street Journal(although I cannot imagine WSJ from ever publishing his articles, given WHO they are), but so far I think he is still with them. And he is an author, an economist, and from an earlier generation that actually had integrity and honesty, and who has no problem seeing the big picture for he is not burdened nor shackled by having to maintain ideological purity in order to be in the GOP.

      But here he is saying, in greater detail and moves outside just the change in economic models by the elites, what I have been claiming from day one. Mine came from business experience and just watching these great changes brought to us by neoliberal GOPhers and Clinton's treasonous democratic party who are also in the neoliberal camp.

      So, listen here to him on a radio show interview, reveal the big picture, and the utter corruption and idiocy of our oligarchs and their puppets, the men you put into office every two years, 4 years, 6 years.

      I had no idea that experts, some of them, were saying exactly what I have been railing against, for MSM hardly allows these men time to speak to the REAL and essential issues in 21st century America, How many people know of Dr. Roberts? I would imagine perhaps one or two people here even know who he is, and certainly not what he says. The limitation on being informed is vast in this nation today, IMO. And everything is revealed from the left, right, lib, con, paradigm, and neither party is talking about what Roberts is talking about. They ignore it, and will not talk about it, and neither will MSM, which clearly is not speaking truth to power. The game is rigged, and far too many people are watching a theater, thinking it is reality, instead of a distraction, whether it is intentional for not.

      Sanders is indeed speaking to the bought out federal gov't and bribed politicians, helped by a USSC who confused bribery with free speech. And Sanders is telling a great truth when he says that he cannot take on these great powers by himself, no one can, unless they have a vast number of americans behind him, and helping him by their calls, demonstrations, and votes, in cleaning up this oligarchic cesspool in DC that has usurped our Constitutional Republic, turning America into a genuine police state, and waging war upon America's citizens, as well as waging war overseas.

      As Roberts said, when the President was given the power to detain American citizens without charges for an unlimited time period, and given the right to murder American citizens without it being given by the justice system, that is exactly the foundation of a police state. Our designated terrorists are now just not radical muslims, but also American citizens who do not like this oligarchy and do not like, and rail against the corruption between elite special interests and gov't which is destroying America's economy, for profit.

      Apparently some americans are beginning to see more clearly what they have as a gov't, and this has made madmen like Trump popular and drawing crowds and inevitably votes, if he is not assassinated. And it has put wind in the sails of Bernie Sanders, which even the cries of him being a socialist, or communist has not killed his run for the oval office. We, the younger crowd knows nothing of FDR and how he stepped in to save capitalism from the greed driven capitalists that will crap in the bed which is America, for profit. But yet, the power of those oligarchs is even greater than in FDR's time, and they are not beyond assassinating anyone who will not fall into the lines, they draw. Some say they already killed one president back in 1963, but I do not know the truth of this.
      Last edited by Blue Doggy; 11-28-2015, 02:53 PM.

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        I do not blame the conservatives here, to not respond to this, for if you cannot defend it, why would you even try to respond? And that GOP neoliberalism, brought back to America, by the GOP, from the 1920s, where it crashed the world's economies, is due to do this again. The 08 crash, was just a taste of what is to come, and all of this was created by turning the elites loose, getting gov't out of their way, which they then bought that same gov't and the banking cabal deregulated themselves, as the MNCs and elites took away our primary job creation engines, and sent them to a communist state, to exploit their poor for greater profits, hollowing out America, with the complicit help of first the GOP and then the Dems.

        Here, a Reagan admistration official will tell you the results of this, for you will not believe me.

        I guess I am waiting for a conservative to scream out socialism, communism, to take his mind off of what his party has created, and committed, basic treason against the American people.

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          There is simply not enough time in the day to rebuke all the people on Youtube who make you feel all warm and fuzzy.

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            Originally posted by Commodore View Post
            There is simply not enough time in the day to rebuke all the people on Youtube who make you feel all warm and fuzzy.

            It's lucky then that you're only being asked to reply about this one single guy.

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              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
              It's lucky then that you're only being asked to reply about this one single guy.
              He has fore-worded similar conspiracy theories many times before. But they all fall to Hanlon's razor.

              Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
              Omnipotent villains petting white haired cats might make entertaining movies, but conjuring such bogeymen in real life is just a cop out that surrenders ones own power and agency to some temporal savior who simply won't be there for them when the time comes. For over a century people in this country, barely a century after they gained what no other people in history have ever had, have been surrendering the power and freedom to craft their own destiny for mythical greener pastures. First it was to the city and a cushy factory job. Then Mr. Roosevelt was going to save us all. Then Johnson's Great Society. When that failed, it was Wall St. We're still recovering from "change you can believe it". It's all the same, people have been selling their birthright for a mess of pottage since the beginning. But if you just give a little more, it will work next time.

              Thankfully, the solution is just a simple. Take responsibility for your own well being. If you ask Wall St to make your money for you, they will do it. You may find that you will have to pay for it in some other way, but you have no one to blame but yourself. People will say that there is no other way, and thats because they don't want another way.

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                Originally posted by Commodore View Post
                There is simply not enough time in the day to rebuke all the people on Youtube who make you feel all warm and fuzzy.
                As Peter said, I just used ONE example, a very credible man, a man who's integrity cannot be questioned, and a man who has spent his live in gov't and economics, and a guy who is old enough to have seen this treason transpire in his lifetime, unlike some here. Who are clueless.

                But there are many more than him, all credible, all men of integrity, and what they all have in common is that MSM would never talk to a single one of them. For they would spill the beans, and actually inform people to the treason that has been committed upon the American people. I include you as one of the many ideological driven voters who is clueless and is quite happy living in a state of "ignorance is bliss" for to do otherwise would force you to change your mind about your sacred GOP politicians and the party in general, and the same goes for the liberal democrat.

                So argue against him, and at least do it as intelligently, for otherwise, you fail coming out of the gates.

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                  Originally posted by Commodore View Post

                  He has fore-worded similar conspiracy theories many times before. But they all fall to Hanlon's razor.

                  Omnipotent villains petting white haired cats might make entertaining movies, but conjuring such bogeymen in real life is just a cop out that surrenders ones own power and agency to some temporal savior who simply won't be there for them when the time comes. For over a century people in this country, barely a century after they gained what no other people in history have ever had, have been surrendering the power and freedom to craft their own destiny for mythical greener pastures. First it was to the city and a cushy factory job. Then Mr. Roosevelt was going to save us all. Then Johnson's Great Society. When that failed, it was Wall St. We're still recovering from "change you can believe it". It's all the same, people have been selling their birthright for a mess of pottage since the beginning. But if you just give a little more, it will work next time.

                  Thankfully, the solution is just a simple. Take responsibility for your own well being. If you ask Wall St to make your money for you, they will do it. You may find that you will have to pay for it in some other way, but you have no one to blame but yourself. People will say that there is no other way, and thats because they don't want another way.
                  One thing is obvious here. You know NOTHING of Dr. Roberts, and what he has said. For you never have spent a min of 30 minutes of actually listening to the guy, and unlike you he does not wax ideological philosophical when he speaks, when he points out the stupidity, the agendas, involved. So, you simply discount him as a conspiracy theorists, for he takes on something you must fervently believe in, as laid out by your waxing and waning philosophical. Not one bit of evidence to contradict what the Dr. says, not one.

                  He was one of the architects of Reaganomics. My money says, in your dismissal, you had no clue as to the fact of that.

                  I voted for Perot, so I blame you, and others just like you. Ha, ha. For not having enough damned sense to be logical, rational enough to make a damned decision that would eventually destroy our large middle class. Because first and foremost, you want to belong to a tribe and it doesn't matter if that tribe brought back something that destroyed our working and middle class. FDR sure as hell did not do that, and that is a fact that should stick in your throat and choke you. But facts do not matter, so not to fear.

                  Lastly, OMNIPOTENT VILLIANS is hyperbole used by you, to dismiss Roberts, but that too is a fail.(straw man) He has never talked about such for they have never existed, in a gov't that has the power of the vote in the hands of the people, FDR took them to task, for he was one of these elites, who wanted to save capitalism from their excesses created by sociopathic greed. And he did it, and he gets zero credit, from the right wingers. But that is an ego thing, an ego who cannot tolerate being wrong, even when they are so wrong it screams.

                  We already know what helps to create a prosperous America, for her people, and we can now see once again what works against that. Thankfully though, there are a growing number of conservatives that are finally coming to their senses, though probably not enough, just yet. One wonders if you ever will?

                  Yet I do not blame you for arguing against Roberts, for truth is, you cannot rationally do it. So you take another course, all to common on your side. As well on the other side today. For both are treasonous bastards, and I refuse to belong to either group.

                  So, if one compares what was created, in the interest of the majority in America, the working and middle class, and how they fared, and then one compares that to what has happened over the last 35 years, since 1981, which WAY was GOOD, BETTER for average americans? Which way did they do better under? If you answer that with honesty and integrity, it would be what FDR helped to create. That is an irrefutable fact, one of those that would choke a conservative to death when he finally swallowed it. Which of course they will not. But reality is a harsh mistress when a conservative, a GOPher, or even a modern liberal is concerned. For she will whip your asses with barbed wire.
                  Last edited by Blue Doggy; 12-04-2015, 08:48 AM.

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