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Globalization continues to hollow out america..

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  • Globalization continues to hollow out america..

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - Alcoa Inc's plans to close its 269,000 tonne-per-year Warrick smelter, announced on Thursday, will bring U.S. aluminum output to its lowest level in more than 65 years as the industry endures tumbling prices amid rising trade tensions with China.

    Warrick is the largest currently-operating smelter in the United States and the biggest shoe to drop in a string of recent curtailments and closures, potentially boosting prices and possibly bolstering some U.S. producers' claims they are harmed by subsidized Chinese production.
    The Evansville, Indiana plant's closure, which will take place by the end of the first quarter, will leave Alcoa with just one active smelter: the 130,000 tonne-per-year Massena West plant, which was saved from closure with $70 million in New York state aid.
    It will bring annual U.S. production of aluminum, which became a key strategic material during World War II, down to around 720,000 tonnes, the lowest level since at least 1950, according to the U.S. Geological Survey

    We will reach a point where what made America so strong and healthy will no longer be here, as globalists seek to max out profits elsewhere by the exploitation of the poor for low wages. America will look like the carcass of a burned out building, with only rusting steel left to mark what it once was. If anyone thinks this is not intentional, driven by sociopathic greed, which destroyed and dismantled what FDR gave to the working people of America, then clearly a disconnect is involved.

    Long ago after Washington was elected, he went first to get an American tailor to make him a new suit. He next visited Jefferson and asked him to come up with a plan to create and sustain making here what the new America would consume, for this is nothing but common sense that a nation has to do this in order to be strong and viable. Jefferson gave him several points, with one being how to manufacture here, and not be devastated by cheap labor overseas. And so the tariff was created. If it cost 50 cents more an hour to make what a foreign nation was making, then you tariffed to allow for this, so that our own people would have jobs, and business would not be destroyed by cheap labor elsewhere in he world. This served us well, until the GOP and those special interests, banking, corporations, were allowed to move manufacturing offshore, to boost their profits. And so, the closure of Alcoa, created by not protecting American workers and American business has just made this nation closer to an economic paper tiger, and yet it continues on with each passing year. But this is what is created when you allow the banking cabal and MNCs to become the gov't that makes economic decisions for the people of America. And it is what oligarchy fascism looks like, when Reagan got he gov't out of the way of business. Until Reagan, gov't was operating more on the behalf of the people, and was concerned with keeping this nation strong, by her manufacturing what our consumers bought. And so, this change brought by the GOP once again shows just how stupidily destructive this GOP is, and what treasonous traitors they are to the American people. And yet, white working people will still vote for them. It incredible, and speaks to a depth of stupidity never seen before in this nation.

    And still the conservative voters holler socialism as the culprit, and with their ant view of the world, do not have enough intelligence to see the big picture, what drives it, and what is destroying this nation. Oh, its socialism they say, while private business, big business and the banking cabal is at its foundation. So until these conservative voters can become reconnected with reality, and understand that socialism has nothing to do with it, and that it is nothing but a kind of capitalism never envisioned by its founders, a capitalism that is hell bent on exploitation of America intent on sucking out its wealth, into the pockets of a few elites, then we will continue this plunge into something our ancestors would have never allowed.

    And so, if every working American does not vote for sanders, they are damn fools. And sadly enough, they will remain damned fools. For all he oligarchs have to whisper is socialism, and the conservative voting brain goes dead, and stops working. It is truly a helluva thing, for what Reagan brought back to fail this nation, to hollow it out, while the conservatives are so oblivious to the facts of what their votes have created. But what in the hell are they holding out for? Lower taxes and regulations that in their delusions they think will make America strong again, economically? But if we were to get that, and things continue to go down the tubes, what will be their excuse then? Socialism? God help us, for we are not intelligent enough to help ourselves.
    Last edited by Blue Doggy; 01-11-2016, 10:46 AM.

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    They can't compete with foreign competition. They are doing the same thing many other companies have done, go out of business. This has nothing to do with them taking their businesses to China. They didn't pressure the Republicans to open the borders to cheaper aluminum. The same thing that happened to Zenith TV and Motorola TV and Smith Corona typewriters. These companies didn't pressure the government to put them out of business.


    • #3
      And what is Komrade Sanders going to do for the Aluminum producers of America?

      1) He's going to make employing Americans in America more expensive with massive new entitlement spending.
      2) He's going to make it harder to operate a smelter with ever more meddling environmental regulation.
      3) He's going to make make it more expensive to smelt aluminum, an energy intensive process, by making energy more expensive with his global warming nonsense.

      And yet you still wonder why manufacturing has been fleeing the country.


      • #4
        Sanders, from the party who brought us NAFTA, MFN for China, and the TPP, is somehow the anti-globalization choice now.


        • #5
          Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
          Sanders, from the party who brought us NAFTA, MFN for China, and the TPP, is somehow the anti-globalization choice now.
          Sanders isn't technically a member of the Democratic party.


          • #6
            Originally posted by Commodore View Post

            Sanders isn't technically a member of the Democratic party.

            Pretty sure he is, since he is running as a Democrat.

            Bernie Sanders is a Democratic candidate for President of the United States.



            • #7
              Originally posted by MattInFla View Post
              Pretty sure he is, since he is running as a Democrat.[/FONT][/COLOR]
              Does that really make him a member of the democrat party ?

              Is Trump a member of the republican party ?

              Just thinking/wondering ...

              ... things aren't "regular" or "normal" anymore


              • #8
                Both big parties have failed the people of this country by rigging things to make it quicker and easier to outsoure our economy.


                • #9
                  Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                  Both big parties have failed the people of this country by rigging things to make it quicker and easier to outsoure our economy.
                  Without a doubt, this is true. And you only have to wonder what in the hell were they thinking about? It's like the whole bunch of them are worse than village idiots, for what makes any nation powerful, economically, socially, militarily is manufacturing what your own population consumes, thereby yielding sufficient standards of living for your citizens. The importance of at home manufacturing has always been essential and important, and then suddenly the whole lot of them go bonkers and start thinking irrationally. But we know what drove it, and what drove it was the greed of our elites to max out their own profits, which cannot be done when you follow Henry Ford, and pay your workers enough to buy what they are making. This is what helped to create history's largest middle class, and it is what attracted so many people to immigrate here, for they could be paid living wages for their work. But doing this inevitably limits profits of the elites. But that was the cost, and the cost didn't keep great wealth from being created here by our elites, it just limited how high their pile of gold would be.

                  What drove this utter insanity, was the effect of big money upon financing the campaigns of those who lust for power. So, maxing out profits, and the lust of power is the root cause, and for some reason the conservatives will never admit this. Instead they will create a ruse, taxes, regulations, for they will never accept that human greed will destroy a nation's working people. Hell, some of them even laud greed, as if it was absolutely necessary. While some of them who laud it, claim to believe in Christian principles. The incoherence of this has a cause as well. And that cause is the power of ideological beliefs, that mold brains, even into incoherence and ignore-ance.

                  Now there is no doubt, for we had one here a couple years ago, a liberal, who I used to argue with, that thought offshoring American middle class jobs to poor nations is what we should do to help out the poor of the world, even if you create poverty here by doing that. So there is a faction among the liberals, who like the idea of offshoring jobs, to help the poor, but you can bet your ass these liberals are not losing their jobs to the profit motive. So they are hypocrites, and in so far as I am concerned, the scum of the earth. For it is the responsiblility of other nations, to help their own people out, by making what they consume, as we used to do, and paying a living wage. This is the model that should have spread around the world, for each nation has to be responsible to their own people. But what stops that? The same mentality that sent American jobs to cheap labor. The elites of those other nations are responsible for their own lack of living standards of their own people.

                  Trade should be used as it was traditionally used. To foster friendship between nations, as to avoid war, and to import what we do not make here, like fine French wine, great cameras and high priced cars for the rich. For every product imported means that jobs are not here, in making what is imported. And every product exported to another nation, represents jobs there, that could be, but do not exist, employing that nation's citizens. Exports are hurting the people in the nation we export to, as every import here, hurts jobs in America. That is just the fact of the matter, that no one thinks about, or wants to think about. Every nation should be self sustaining, for that provides jobs that are essential for the people who live in that nation. And if the people were important, and gov't represented them, this is how it would be. But the people are not important, only the profits of the elites have importance, and that drives economic and trade policy. That is a hard fact, that is irrefutable.


                  • #10
                    Arthur Brooks: Ceding The Poverty Fight To Liberals Has Cannibalized Three Generations Of Americans' Futures

                    Brooks was pleased that the panels referred to the poor as people, with a sense of optimism for the future. How can we foster a reconstruction of the American dream, especially since conservatives have retreated from this field of public policy, much to the detriment of the nation? The result has been three more generations lost to poverty. When conservatives cede areas of policy entirely to the left, peoples lives are wasted. Speaker Ryan added that the current way of fighting poverty is paternalistic, condescending and arrogant. Playing off of Woodsons remarks, the speaker noted that local communities are where well find the answers. Theyre the brain trust. He also emphasized that people, communities, churches, and civic groups are the ones who need to be on the frontlines of poverty, not the government. Government cans surely play a role in this fight, but it cannot be the principle actor in this fight.
                    When it comes to work, there are two types of people, according to Brooks. Those who view it as a blessing and those who think it's punishment. Both liberals and conservatives have channeled the latter to suit their own political agenda. The left is against work requirements for welfare programs because they think it punished the poor. The right wants those accountability measures because they really want to sock it to those on the welfare rolls. Work isnt a source of punishment. We cant treat the poor as the other in American society; we need to change this. Because the pursuit of happiness was written with the poor in mind; the riff raff, as Brooks mentioned, is us. We need policies and a philosophy that rewards and encourages good work. After all, work is part of the foundation, which includes faith, family, and community, that provides a path to happiness.