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  • Changes to Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation

    After years of delays, the SEC has just voted to enact a potentially game-changing provision of the Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation.

    The new provision requires corporations to disclose the amount their CEOs make compared to the salary of the median worker. Corporations are shocked because the rule is surprisingly strong closing the loopholes that corporations normally use to skew data.

    The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other big business organizations are frightened, and are fighting back, pressuring the SEC to soften the provisions language during the current sixty-day comment period.

    This data is valuable for investors, as it helps them determine which companies are dangerously overloaded at the top. The new disclosure will create downward pressure in the industry by rewarding companies with more reasonable salary hierarchies. It will also get workers talking, and put overpaid executives in the spotlight. This could be a game-changer for out-of-control inequality andhelp stop the wild greed at the top of the largest companies in the US.

    There is a petition circulating regarding this corporate disclosure.

    http://act.sumofus.org/go/2720?t=2&akid=2589.1801711.QkjX4a>

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    Re: Changes to Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation

    I thought publicly held corps always had to disclose CEO salary and bonus.

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      Re: Changes to Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation

      Originally posted by Chey Barnes View Post
      After years of delays, the SEC has just voted to enact a potentially game-changing provision of the Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation.

      The new provision requires corporations to disclose the amount their CEOs make compared to the salary of the median worker. Corporations are shocked because the rule is surprisingly strong – closing the loopholes that corporations normally use to skew data.

      The U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other big business organizations are frightened, and are fighting back, pressuring the SEC to soften the provisions language during the current sixty-day comment period.

      This data is valuable for investors, as it helps them determine which companies are dangerously overloaded at the top. The new disclosure will create downward pressure in the industry by rewarding companies with more reasonable salary hierarchies. It will also get workers talking, and put overpaid executives in the spotlight. This could be a game-changer for out-of-control inequality andhelp stop the wild greed at the top of the largest companies in the US.

      There is a petition circulating regarding this corporate disclosure.

      http://act.sumofus.org/go/2720?t=2&akid=2589.1801711.QkjX4a>
      So Dodd Frank pertains to all corporations and not just financial institutions?

      But regardless I have a question that I don't know the answer to. Why is it that CEOs have seen such an exponential jump in their salaries when compared to the workers over the last few decades. Is there a correlation between that and conservative coming back into power? Why are CEOs worth so much more today than they were after ww2 up until a few decades ago? What made them more valuable and the others who work for that corporation less valuable than they were in the past? Is the reason little more than the monkeys in a Kipling novel that yelled, " we all say it is so, so it must be true'? The monkeys being the elites who benefit from the exponential growth of big corporate and banking CEOs.

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        Re: Changes to Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation

        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
        So Dodd Frank pertains to all corporations and not just financial institutions?

        But regardless I have a question that I don't know the answer to. Why is it that CEOs have seen such an exponential jump in their salaries when compared to the workers over the last few decades. Is there a correlation between that and conservative coming back into power? Why are CEOs worth so much more today than they were after ww2 up until a few decades ago? What made them more valuable and the others who work for that corporation less valuable than they were in the past? Is the reason little more than the monkeys in a Kipling novel that yelled, " we all say it is so, so it must be true'? The monkeys being the elites who benefit from the exponential growth of big corporate and banking CEOs.
        I will answer that question for you easily BD.....the CEOs aren't, not by any stretch of the imagination. But then, why do baseball players make so much money? Football players? How about basketball players? And all of them are playing a kids game. Conversely, why do teachers, firemen, paramedics, and policemen/women make so much less?

        ANSWER------->because they are ALL getting paid what the market will bear, that is why. Anyone (including you and I) can demand anything we want for a salary, then all we have to do is find someone willing to pay it to us. Do you think CEOs just demand this money and it is given to them because they are holding the 1st born of the corporation hostage? Of course not! They are being paid what the market will bear for their skills, and they don't have a union to force that pay or bennies package either.

        Point is........it is fair market value as seen by those paying the market. I certainly do not agree they are worth it, but the people with the money think they are, and since it is their money, who are we to demand they do not pay it. I have a better idea. Let all of us prove we can do their job just as well, then offer a couple of these companies our services for 1/2 of what the current CEO makes and take their jobs from them. How does that sound!

        But we have a conundrum then. What if after we take their job and do it well, another company comes along and offers you a huge raise to come over there? You gonna take it? Your wife going to let you stay where you are when you can double your salary with stock options when you can go elsewhere for that, and you are being offered the job? Isn't that just like baseball free agency?

        It is what the market will bear, that is all it is, and if you put them under the yolk, it won't be long until the government will put the regular worker under the yolk too. If you doubt what I am saying, then remember you heard it here 1st--------->if ACA stays law and starts losing money hand over fist, (as it surely will) all those doctors and nurses pay are going to be controlled by the government. (for the good of the collective you know, because everyone deserves healthcare/insurance, right?)

        Was it not you a while back who said your loving daughter whom you raised with care was a nurse? (if it was not you, forgive me) Is that what you want for her, the government keeping her wages down because the ACA is in the red? Telling her where she needs to work, when she needs to work, and her having to ask Washington if she can move to another hospital or state?

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          Re: Changes to Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation

          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
          So Dodd Frank pertains to all corporations and not just financial institutions?

          But regardless I have a question that I don't know the answer to. Why is it that CEOs have seen such an exponential jump in their salaries when compared to the workers over the last few decades. Is there a correlation between that and conservative coming back into power? Why are CEOs worth so much more today than they were after ww2 up until a few decades ago? What made them more valuable and the others who work for that corporation less valuable than they were in the past? Is the reason little more than the monkeys in a Kipling novel that yelled, " we all say it is so, so it must be true'? The monkeys being the elites who benefit from the exponential growth of big corporate and banking CEOs.
          Ever think it might be that people are getting lazier and according to some new reports over 50% of US Citizens are on Welfare.

          When you have someone who thinks they cannot possibly succeed because school, tv, your friends etc tell you that all the rick will keep you from succeeding there is a point where you believe it. When you believe the bullshit is when you finally fail because you wont try.

          Just because Bill Gates is worth Billions does not mean I cannot make it some day. Because Oprah is worth Billions does not mean that some other black woman cannot make it eventually.

          Your (collective) belief that you cannot make it is the only thing stopping you. Unions, have for decades pounded into workers that they cannot get better deals from a corporation on their own. My mother and many others told me I could not succeed that I should just work for some company, but I did it and my mother and others call me when they need money because they work for someone else and were too afraid to strive to be better.

          So fucking what if some CEO makes millions. Why is that a problem to the average worker. I was hired in for a computer tech job about 25 years ago at Ford. I was started at $11/hr had college and some certifications. Meanwhile on the assembly line they hired in guys at 18+/hr and union after 90 days. No skills, fresh out of high school.

          I posted in anther thread that the average CEO pay was around 150K a year. Now lets calculate minimum wage. What about 18K a year. So minimum wage someone is hired in at is about 1/8th of the average CEO pay AND the average pay of about 35K if I remember the article right for a worker is only 1/5th of CEO average PAY.

          BUT the Liberals and the Socialists don't care about the reality of average pay they want to focus on the handful of CEO's that make millions+ a year.

          I see a big fat disingenuous argument here.

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            Re: Changes to Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation

            When a CEO screws up a project, he doesn't apologize to the Board of Directors for his screw up.
            He explains to the board why the peons screwed up and they should be fired.
            CEO salaries are usually within the normal range; it is their bonuses that are outrageous.
            It is what they do to ensure the pot has their bonus cash that is immoral.
            CEOs of small and mid-sized businesses try to be more responsible because their successes and failures are more transparent.
            Any entity that becomes too large is going to have layers of predators.

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              Re: Changes to Dodd-Frank Act on CEO compensation

              These rules would be enforced only for public companies. It specifies that the ratio of the median employee annual total compensation to the CEO annual total compensation must be disclosed. I as an investor would like to know how much the CEO is making in comparison to the average employee. This transparency helps me make decisions regarding the integrity of the company I am investing or considering to invest in.

              There are however many who argue that Dodd Frank as a whole imposesexcessive demands for fees and a mountain of paperwork that will blanket a vast segment of the American economy causing moreharm than good with its massive cost, complexity of its regulations, and its internal inconsistencies.

              After each economic boom comes the bust and with it more regulation; after the crisis of 2008, came Dodd-Frank. Its original intent was to address the issue of bailing out banks that were deemed too big to fail and to help regulate derivatives, however it turned into an 848 page bloated and confusing behemoth of added bureaucracy.

              The scope and structure of the mammoth law are fundamentally different to those of its precursor laws. Dodd-Frank is not directed at people, it is an outline directed at bureaucrats and it instructs them to make still more regulations and to create more bureaucracies. Like the Hydra of Greek myth, Dodd-Frank can grow new heads as needed.

              There are several arguments in opposition to the Dodd Frank rules:
              1) The greatly increased bureaucracy and regulation mandated by this act will not prevent another banking crisis.
              2) It impedes the ability of small banks to raise capital.
              3) It requires government partnership with the largest financial institutions.
              4) Ad hoc intervention responses by regulators rather than more predictable set rules.

              The relatively fixed rules of bankruptcy could certainly handle the breakdown of big financial institutions but Dodd-Frank is tilted against bankruptcy because it is the product of banking committees, where bankruptcy is handled by judiciary committees.

              This is a perfect example of our government stepping in and creating an overblown juggernaut to help fix the problem that it created in the first place. If a bank makes bad loans and goes bankrupt let them fail it worked both for Sweden and Iceland.

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