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    An opinion poll has shown that the British public's support for nuclear power has increased, despite March's Fukushima nuclear disaster.

    In the British Science Association poll, over 40% of respondents said the benefits outweighed the risks.

    Researchers believe that worries about future energy security have become far more important in people's minds.

    In 2010, 38% of those polled in the UK believed the benefits of nuclear outweighed the risks; this has increased to 41% today.

    When asked about building new nuclear power stations, support has increased substantially from just 9% in 2005 to 23%.

    This increase in support comes amidst LESSENING support of nuclear power in countries such as Germany, Italy and Japan and the silly German government plans to close all of Germany's nuclear power stations by 2022.


    UK nuclear support 'rises after Fukushima'

    'By Matt McGrath
    Science reporter, BBC World Service
    9th September 2011


    Sellafield nuclear power station in Cumbria

    An opinion poll suggests that support for nuclear power in Britain has increased in the wake of the Fukushima disaster.

    In the British Science Association poll, over 40% of respondents said the benefits outweighed the risks.

    Researchers believe that worries about future energy security have become far more important in people's minds.

    Men were more than twice as likely as women to be in favour of nuclear, the poll suggests.

    In March 2011, a powerful earthquake and tsunami destroyed the cooling systems at the Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan. There were fears of large radiation leaks and 80,000 people were evacuated from a 20km zone around the facility.

    The incident sparked a huge debate worldwide on the future of nuclear power with the German government deciding to close all their remaining nuclear power stations by 2022.

    Bucking the trend

    While opinion polls in Japan, Germany and Italy have all shown a drop in support for nuclear power following the disaster, Britons seem to be bucking the trend with increasing enthusiasm for the technology.

    In 2010, 38% of those polled in the UK believed the benefits of nuclear outweighed the risks; this has increased to 41% today.

    When asked about building new nuclear power stations, support has increased substantially from just 9% in 2005 to 23%.

    In the light of the disaster, Professor Bob Cywinski, a nuclear expert from the University of Huddersfield, said the poll findings were unexpected.

    "I am surprised that there is still such strong support after Fukushima despite the public misunderstanding and despite the bad publicity."

    Gender gap

    The poll highlights a large gender gap when it comes to nuclear and other energy sources.

    Some 53% of men were in favour compared to 21% of women. Almost a third of women want future energy investment to be in solar power where a similar proportion of men favour investing in atomic energy.

    Professor Nick Pidgeon from Cardiff University says that the way that men and women feel about technology may be informing their attitudes to nuclear.

    "A lot of explanations have been put forward for this gender effect. A lot of it is to do with the way boys and girls are educated to think about science. Men have a more gung-ho view on what technology can do for you - women tend to be more cautious."

    Climate change was often cited in the past as the main motivator for opting for nuclear. But according to Professor Pidgeon the poll suggests that this has now been overtaken by worries over energy security.

    "Climate change has become less salient, it's gone off people's radar in the last four of five years and energy security has become a more important driver of preferences around energy questions."

    Professor Pidgeon says that, overall, Britons may be warming to nuclear power, but their attitudes are still a little tepid.

    "People in general are expressing what we've called in the past a reluctant acceptance of nuclear - if you look at the data on renewables versus nuclear there is still a strong preference for renewables but many people view that nuclear may be necessary in the short or medium term as part of the energy mix."

    The British Science Association commissioned the poll from Populus, which interviewed 2,050 GB adults online between 26th and 29th August 2011.

    BBC News - UK nuclear support 'rises after Fukushima'

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    Good for them.

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      Re: British support for nuclear power increases

      Enjoy the massive downsides.

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        Re: British support for nuclear power increases

        Originally posted by El_Zoido View Post
        Enjoy the massive downsides.
        Like what?
        -Germany is on its knees thanks to the green people and their ideology, it's good to see that Europe still holds people with spines.

        In more serious thought;
        -Germany cannot fulfill their need of electricity via Wind/Solar/Tidal generators, so they buy Russian nuclear power.

        How green is that?

        Fact to the matter is, that modern era nuclear power plants are very efficent, durable and safe constructs, and the waste produced is not the great boogey-man the green-folk claim it is.

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          It is also neither clean, cheap nor does it offer any hope for cheaper sustainable energy in the future since uranium is getting more expensive all the time.

          I think it's amusing that you still buy the "green treehugger" blabla the nuclear lobby is feeding you... paying for huge 20-30% profit margins is your privilege. Enjoy it. Very useful for the broader economy.
          Just like socialization of risk, government guratees for loans, 100% construction cost increases, tax funded waste management,...

          Plus: The explosion at a French nuclear facility today is just perfect for your argument btw.... Yeah just one dead and only the high risk of plutonium leaking...
          Last edited by El_Zoido; 09-12-2011, 05:30 AM.

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            Re: British support for nuclear power increases

            Originally posted by El_Zoido View Post
            It is also neither clean, cheap nor does it offer any hope for cheaper sustainable energy in the future since uranium is getting more expensive all the time.
            But it is Cleaner, cheaper and offers better power output than most other sources.
            -You obviously imagine the 60's power plants.

            Uranium part is true, but newer power plants are able to use the material more effectively.
            -Some can actually take power from the eventual waste.
            I think it's amusing that you still buy the "green treehugger" blabla the nuclear lobby is feeding you...
            :rolleyes:
            Green agenda is much akin to communistic ideology. The idea is everything, no matter what is destroyed/how many lies it takes to ram it through.
            -At least here, Green-people are the ones who sit in the seat of political power and cause serious and real harm.
            (many of the green-people actually are former stalinists, and use the communistic methods of older days. infiltrate various agencies and eventually hold positions of power)
            They do not care about the damage they case to the enviroment, the ideology is everything. Want an example? The reduction of biomass in the overall forests.
            (remember, I work in the green-fields)
            paying for huge 20-30% profit margins is your privilege. Enjoy it. Very useful for the broader economy.
            Amusing, especially coming from Germany..
            -Germany, which is now licking Russian Federation power, are getting themselves from nuclear monopoly, under the yoke of green-power.
            (you will find out soon enough)
            Just like socialization of risk, government guratees for loans, 100% construction cost increases, tax funded waste management,...
            I really do not have any opinioin for or against this.
            Plus: The explosion at a French nuclear facility today is just perfect for your argument btw.... Yeah just one dead and only the high risk of plutonium leaking...
            HA!
            That was weak, the explosion happened inside the plant-area...but it had nothing to do with production of energy.

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              Re: British support for nuclear power increases

              Originally posted by Fennica View Post
              But it is Cleaner, cheaper and offers better power output than most other sources.
              -You obviously imagine the 60's power plants.

              Uranium part is true, but newer power plants are able to use the material more effectively.
              -Some can actually take power from the eventual waste.
              :rolleyes:
              Green agenda is much akin to communistic ideology. The idea is everything, no matter what is destroyed/how many lies it takes to ram it through.
              -At least here, Green-people are the ones who sit in the seat of political power and cause serious and real harm.
              (many of the green-people actually are former stalinists, and use the communistic methods of older days. infiltrate various agencies and eventually hold positions of power)
              They do not care about the damage they case to the enviroment, the ideology is everything. Want an example? The reduction of biomass in the overall forests.
              (remember, I work in the green-fields)
              Amusing, especially coming from Germany..
              -Germany, which is now licking Russian Federation power, are getting themselves from nuclear monopoly, under the yoke of green-power.
              (you will find out soon enough)
              I really do not have any opinioin for or against this.
              Cleaner and cheaper ? Nope.
              Not cleaner nor cheaper than windpower.
              I find it facinating that you activly choose to ignore the entire fuel cycle and make yourself believe it's clean.

              Got no idea what you talk about when it comes to the green agenda... really bizarr stuff.
              Here you got them from all over the spectrum with very diverse backgrounds.

              The fact that you got no idea nor opinion on just a few of the most important anti-nuclear / pro-renewables arguments is very telling.
              So basicly because you were told so you think nuclear is great?

              Germany recieved gas from russia when we were class enemies and they were the soviet union.
              Germany is pushing energy independence... short term trends are what they are.... and I think we will buy from france if anything at all.
              Renewables will propably grow significantly faster than expected.... as they always did so far...

              Originally posted by Fennica View Post
              HA!
              That was weak, the explosion happened inside the plant-area...but it had nothing to do with production of energy.
              Yeah very weak... the accident happend in a facility making MOX fuel elements... you know the way the waste is being made useable again by basicly making the perfect dirty bomb material (Uranium/Plutonium oxid)?
              That was a key elemnt of your Pro-Nuclear argument from just before?

              And HA! they got not the slightest idea what caused it.
              And somebody died! Ha!
              Last edited by El_Zoido; 09-12-2011, 11:01 AM.

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                Re: British support for nuclear power increases

                Originally posted by El_Zoido View Post
                Got no idea what you talk about when it comes to the green agenda... really bizarr stuff.
                OK, lament terms;
                -What does Germany gain when buying nuclear power from Russia?
                -Why does Germany give up on steady energy in favor of uncertain and unready tech?

                Here you got them from all over the spectrum with very diverse backgrounds.
                Here, they are urban folk, people who eat imported soy and have no clue on real green-fields and green living. They are not people ofthe land, but people of the Cities.
                The fact that you got no idea nor opinion on just a few of the most important anti-nuclear / pro-renewables arguments is very telling.
                You could provide some more info, that might help.
                -Or, I'll dig the pointers myself tomorrow and have an opinion then.

                So basicly because you were told so you think nuclear is great?
                No, because I have looked into the matters. Wihtout an agenda.

                Yeah very weak... the accident happend in a facility making MOX fuel elements... you know the way the waste is being made useable again by basicly making the perfect dirty bomb material (Uranium/Plutonium oxid)?
                That was a key elemnt of your Pro-Nuclear argument from just before?
                Look at the news, the facility has zero to do with energy production.

                And HA! they got not the slightest idea what caused it.
                And somebody died! Ha!
                The smelter which deals with very low radiation waste went off, there was a fire in the area.

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                  Re: British support for nuclear power increases

                  Originally posted by Fennica View Post
                  OK, lament terms;
                  -What does Germany gain when buying nuclear power from Russia?
                  -Why does Germany give up on steady energy in favor of uncertain and unready .

                  You could provide some more info, that might help.
                  -Or, I'll dig the pointers myself tomorrow and have an opinion then
                  What makes you believe Germany will buy nuclear from russia? There are hardly the powerlines to get the massiv exess windpower from north germany to the south... there is no technical capability to even recieve power from Russia. Nor is this the plan.

                  Germany is transforming it's energy system with the goal of long term price stability to confront the inevitable increase of fuel prices.
                  Germany is also establishing a competitive market enviroment for energy in which many small & midsized companies drive prices down.
                  The technologies are anything but not ready. Their output grew from 4% to cover 21% within a decade. It's true that renewables were not close to be profitable 10 years ago... but the idea was to push them to be profitable (beat nuclear and coal). That goal has already been reached in case of onshore wind.
                  Biomass technology is competative with NG and PV-Solar has reached grid-parity.

                  For the German economy this means that we have a strong market position and a new manufacturing sector.

                  Higher short term costs are widly accepted.
                  Many independent studies have also shown that the overall economy is benefiting from the switch... even electricity prices droped significantly at the energy markets during the last few years.
                  Something the established fossil&fission electricity oligopoles did use to increase consumer prices while pointing at oild pricey... o_O

                  For more informations and more elaborate posts... look at the "Germany abandons nuclear power" thread.

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                    Re: British support for nuclear power increases

                    Only cost effective alternatives to nuclear power are windmills and coal plants.

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                      Re: British support for nuclear power increases

                      Originally posted by Wallaroo View Post
                      Only cost effective alternatives to nuclear power are windmills and coal plants.
                      Wind power & Hydropower (small & large scale) are also the renewables that compete for the same kind of supply segment.

                      Wind power has the winning argument over coal due to it's decentralized application.
                      That means you don't need to import coal from places like Russia, Indonesia, South Africa, Kolumbia,..., burn it in a huge plant without using 70% of the primary energy and sent the electricity on a trip through a grid with losses.

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                        Re: British support for nuclear power increases

                        Originally posted by El_Zoido View Post
                        It is also neither clean, cheap nor does it offer any hope for cheaper sustainable energy in the future since uranium is getting more expensive all the time.
                        According to this 2005 data, the cost of electricity produced by nuclear power vs. coal are about the same.
                        Cost Comparison - Nuclear vs. Coal

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