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Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

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    Global worming: how worms are accelerating climate change

    Earthworms improve soil fertility but result in a net increase in greenhouse gases, study concludes
    Global worming: how worms are accelerating climate change | Roz Pidcock | Environment | guardian.co.uk

    Where do you suppose PETA will come down on this one. Protect the worms or protect the environment? Such a dilemma. I guess I'll have to fish with worms some more to save the planet.

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    Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

    The earthworm is not native to North America, it is an introduced species that has spread across the continent and altered the ecology profoundly.

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      Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

      Originally posted by goober View Post
      The earthworm is not native to North America, it is an introduced species that has spread across the continent and altered the ecology profoundly.
      They certainly have and for the better I might add. I don't know how far you have to go back to say it's not native but they have been here a long time. Far before there was discussion of global warming.

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        Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
        They certainly have and for the better I might add. I don't know how far you have to go back to say it's not native but they have been here a long time. Far before there was discussion of global warming.
        They were introduced by european settlers in the 18th century. Much of the native forest of North America cannot survive an invasion of earthworms, since the forests evolved in the absence of worms.

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          Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

          Maybe we need a lot of birds or big fishing tournament to nip this problem in the bud!

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            Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

            When I was a kid, I picked up coffee cans of Canadian night crawlers after a summer rain. Sold them to walleye fishermen in the summer for a nickel apiece.

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              LOL. Now it's worms. It's all the worms fault now.

              Actually, depending on how far back you go, you could consider all the North American species as invasive. At one point in time, when the ice age lowered all the ocean levels, the species all came over the Alaska land bridge, and worked their way down the Americas.

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                So worm farts are still human causedclimate change because 1/3 of earth worm species were introduced by european colonists ?

                Let's breed more robins.

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                  So funny to me that global warming was all man-made! We got to use less paper, stop driving cars, shut down the coal industry, don't use electricity, paint our roof tops white, and go green, go green, and go green some more. Now we're down to cow flatulents and earthworms. I hope we never reach a majority population that truly believes this crap. If we do, we're all in trouble.

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                    Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

                    Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                    Global worming: how worms are accelerating climate change



                    Global worming: how worms are accelerating climate change | Roz Pidcock | Environment | guardian.co.uk

                    Where do you suppose PETA will come down on this one. Protect the worms or protect the environment? Such a dilemma. I guess I'll have to fish with worms some more to save the planet.
                    Earthworms help make for fertile soil. Fertile soil is something man can never have too much of. The earthworm doing his appointed role in the ecosystem will never be harmful to the ecosystem, no matter how many worms you have. The more, the better.

                    And that is why I find such studies exhibit the fact that some scientists just have too much time on their hands, and if this was tax funded, it is another waste of tax dollars.

                    Mankind, certain cultures, over history have lived in harmony with nature. The Amerindians come to mind right off, yet there were others. And believe it or not the sort of religion that each culture espoused has a helluva lot to do with how those cultures have viewed and treated the earth. The western mindset comes from the religions of the Book and basically puts man into the position to subdue nature, instead of living in harmony with it. And the west in general have not been good shepherds in regards to the earth and nature. We see ourselves as totally separate from nature, and most forget that we are interwoven into the web of life, a part of it, not something separate from it. And until recently we pretty much soiled our own beds, turned our rivers into streams you could literally throw a match in and it would ignite and burn and filled the air with chemicals that ruined a few seasons of moonshining in the South, due to the acid rain polluting the clean water needed to make the mountain dew.

                    We have basically forgot that we are stuck here on this planet and if we ruin it, we have no place to run to. If you attempt to stop doing some of it and it affects the profits of a corporation, the corporation would rather to continue the pollution or the damage to the ecosystem than to see lower profits by addressing problem causing the damage. This is pretty much the history of corporations and the environment. The truth is, when profits are involved, profits always seem to trump everything else. And that is just the way the world is, and has always been.

                    So a few more worms ain't a gonna hurt anything. I think we are seeing more of them because the kids no longer dig em up to use in fishing. Today the kids don't want to get their hands dirty, and would rather sit in front of a video game, eating junk food setting themselves up for future diabetes.

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                      Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

                      Originally posted by goober View Post
                      They were introduced by european settlers in the 18th century. Much of the native forest of North America cannot survive an invasion of earthworms, since the forests evolved in the absence of worms.
                      I didn't actually realize earthworms were invasive, but its not like there weren't plenty of worms already in North America:
                      Invasive earthworms of North America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                      Of the 182 taxa of earthworms found in the United States of America and Canada, 60 or almost 33% are invasive species

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                        Re: Now It's The Worms Causing Global Warming

                        Originally posted by buck84 View Post
                        So funny to me that global warming was all man-made! We got to use less paper, stop driving cars, shut down the coal industry, don't use electricity, paint our roof tops white, and go green, go green, and go green some more. Now we're down to cow flatulents and earthworms. I hope we never reach a majority population that truly believes this crap. If we do, we're all in trouble.
                        Well I don't know exactly how much man has contributed to the warming if any but it does seem logical that we do affect it. That is if the science is correct on co2 being an earth warming gas. Is that in dispute, what co2 does? I thought we had known that for a long time and only recently has it been questioned, generally by studies conducted by men who were financed by the fossil fuel industry.

                        In these times we are in today, you can literally buy yourself a scientist, even a whole group of em. And those scientists can voo doo their way into supporting a special interest, and these interests generally have profits in mind. This has gone on to the point that it muddies up the waters, and no one knows who in the hell is telling the truth! I don't recall it ever being this bad earlier in my life, when science was looked up to provide the facts. Today everyone seems entitled to their own facts. LOL Nowhere is this more noticable than in this question of manmade global warming. But you know what? Time will indeed show who was lying and who was telling the truth. Thank god for time!

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                          I couldn't agree more. I don't doubt global warming. I highly doubt the reasons, especially where the "man-made" promotion was coming from (Al Gore), who's making a mint on global warming and stands to make greater fortune. I'm all for those who can make a fortune doing what they do, but he's not providing a service. He's perpetuating hysteria, with cherry picked data that fits his cause and neglecting data that does not fit his cause.

                          Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                          Well I don't know exactly how much man has contributed to the warming if any but it does seem logical that we do affect it. That is if the science is correct on co2 being an earth warming gas. Is that in dispute, what co2 does? I thought we had known that for a long time and only recently has it been questioned, generally by studies conducted by men who were financed by the fossil fuel industry.

                          In these times we are in today, you can literally buy yourself a scientist, even a whole group of em. And those scientists can voo doo their way into supporting a special interest, and these interests generally have profits in mind. This has gone on to the point that it muddies up the waters, and no one knows who in the hell is telling the truth! I don't recall it ever being this bad earlier in my life, when science was looked up to provide the facts. Today everyone seems entitled to their own facts. LOL Nowhere is this more noticable than in this question of manmade global warming. But you know what? Time will indeed show who was lying and who was telling the truth. Thank god for time!

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                            Originally posted by goober View Post
                            They were introduced by european settlers in the 18th century. Much of the native forest of North America cannot survive an invasion of earthworms, since the forests evolved in the absence of worms.
                            I don't know if you've ever driven through my state but it is not wanting for forest. No it's not comprised of native trees but the species are native and definitely thriving so I have reason to question the second proposition.

                            But the lowly earthworm is excellent fish bait. I long to hook them and cast them into deep pools where the native bass awaits.

                            I hope the global warming doesn't dally this year.

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                              I grew up in Up State New York with huge Maple, Cherry, Beech, Ash, and other hardwood trees along with some firs and hemlocks. Earth worms are plentiful under the canopy. I have no idea why they would be a threat to trees.

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