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One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

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  • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

    Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
    Oh yeah those oil and gas companies don't make any money at all do they?
    But Peter this is obviously a huge conspiracy... Like all those Scientists from all over the world have a secret handshake and a nod and wink...

    The sceptics have not stated what about if they are wrong... What if a vast majority of scientists are right.

    The common sense risk v reward says protecting against global warming is a no brainer...

    The cost of a global warming is huge when compared to the work need to prevent it.

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    • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

      Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
      But Peter this is obviously a huge conspiracy... Like all those Scientists from all over the world have a secret handshake and a nod and wink...

      The sceptics have not stated what about if they are wrong... What if a vast majority of scientists are right.

      The common sense risk v reward says protecting against global warming is a no brainer...

      The cost of a global warming is huge when compared to the work need to prevent it.
      That vast majority you speak of is an ever dwindling number.

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      • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

        Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
        But Peter this is obviously a huge conspiracy... Like all those Scientists from all over the world have a secret handshake and a nod and wink...

        The sceptics have not stated what about if they are wrong... What if a vast majority of scientists are right.

        The common sense risk v reward says protecting against global warming is a no brainer...

        The cost of a global warming is huge when compared to the work need to prevent it.
        If they are right then its going to get warmer, and we will adapt to that as it happens - if it happens.
        There is no way we can prevent global CO2 emissions. All the trillions that have been spent so far globally on cap and trade, wind and solar subsidies, and so on, have been wasted. Not only have global CO2 emissions not declined, they have continued to increase.
        So, not only are we throwing away our prosperity on a problem that may not exist, the solution we are trying to achieve is not possible.

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        • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

          About .15% of Atmospheric CO2 is man made.

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          • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

            Originally posted by CowboyTed View Post
            The sceptics have not stated what about if they are wrong... What if a vast majority of scientists are right.
            The vast majority of scientists ARE skeptics. What if the alarmists are right? I have addressed this many times. Some generation of humans have to be the last. I hope the last generations of humans die free.

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            • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

              Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
              About .15% of Atmospheric CO2 is man made.
              Where do you come up with this number? Nature produces about 150 gigatones of CO2 but it also absorbs 153 gigatonnes for a net reduction of 3 gigatones per year. Humans on the other hand produce about 6 gigatons and absorb virtually none. Considering that we've been producing more CO2 than nature can absorb for over a century now, humans are responsible for about half of the 400 ppm of Atmospheric CO2.

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              • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                Originally posted by Cleisthenes View Post
                Where do you come up with this number? Nature produces about 150 gigatones of CO2 but it also absorbs 153 gigatonnes for a net reduction of 3 gigatones per year. Humans on the other hand produce about 6 gigatons and absorb virtually none. Considering that we've been producing more CO2 than nature can absorb for over a century now, humans are responsible for about half of the 400 ppm of Atmospheric CO2.
                I misstated that. What I meant to say is that .15% of the atmosphere is man made CO2. Sorry.

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                • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                  Cow farts make the air surrounding them a lot warmer, but did you know they might be making the entire world warmer too?

                  Statistics vary regarding how much methane the average dairy cow expels. Some experts say 100 liters to 200 liters a day (or about 26 gallons to about 53 gallons), while others say it's up to 500 liters (about 132 gallons) a day. In any case, that's a lot of methane, an amount comparable to the pollution produced by a car in a day.
                  If we want to solve this problem we have to make cows more efficient. Government can help make this happen with fart taxes and capping the amount of greenhouse gases produced by farm animals by plugging up the holes in which it leaks out of. Or perhaps we should capture and store methane via a cow's cannula?

                  HowStuffWorks "Do cows pollute as much as cars?"

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                  • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                    North Pole Sees Unprecedented July Cold – Arctic Sees Shortest Summer On Record — ‘Normally the high Arctic has about 90 days above freezing. This year there was less than half that’

                    North Pole Sees Unprecedented July Cold

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                    • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                      Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                      I misstated that. What I meant to say is that .15% of the atmosphere is man made CO2. Sorry.
                      Actually it's more like 0.038%, but what is your point?

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                      • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                        Originally posted by Brexx View Post
                        If they are right then its going to get warmer, and we will adapt to that as it happens - if it happens.
                        There is no way we can prevent global CO2 emissions. All the trillions that have been spent so far globally on cap and trade, wind and solar subsidies, and so on, have been wasted. Not only have global CO2 emissions not declined, they have continued to increase.
                        So, not only are we throwing away our prosperity on a problem that may not exist, the solution we are trying to achieve is not possible.
                        How is cap working out when a business can trade with some country that does not have any industry and produce the same amount of CO2. If Cap and Trade was truly about reducing emissions then there would be NO trade to continue to spew out the CO2. What part of cap and trade do people not realize is simply wealth redistribution and has nothing to do with environment.

                        How about reclaiming desert for farmlands instead of clear cutting millions of acres of greenery that helps filter CO2 back to oxygen.

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                        • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                          Global warming is just another scheme for wealth distribution. Nothing more.

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                          • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                            Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                            Global warming is just another scheme for wealth distribution. Nothing more.
                            For a moment there I thought you said something about "weather distribution".

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                            • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                              Originally posted by Wlessard View Post
                              How is cap working out when a business can trade with some country that does not have any industry and produce the same amount of CO2. If Cap and Trade was truly about reducing emissions then there would be NO trade to continue to spew out the CO2. What part of cap and trade do people not realize is simply wealth redistribution and has nothing to do with environment.
                              The same way it has cut SO2 emissions to half of 1980 levels under the Acid Rain Program.

                              SO2 Reductions and Allowance Trading Under the Acid Rain Program | Acid Rain Program | Programs and Regulations | Business | Clean Air Markets | Air & Radiation Home | US EPA

                              How about reclaiming desert for farmlands instead of clear cutting millions of acres of greenery that helps filter CO2 back to oxygen.
                              Where do you suggest they get the water to reclaim the deserts when fresh water is already scarce in many places?

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                              • Re: One... More... Time... No Global Warming!

                                Originally posted by Cleisthenes View Post
                                Acid rain was a very obvious and definitive issue happening. Global Warming or more specifically AGW is not definitive and CO2 is not definitively the cause or a component. I have posted many articles by scientists who have said that CO2 may be a trailing indicator not a cause.


                                Where do you suggest they get the water to reclaim the deserts when fresh water is already scarce in many places?
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                                Where does Israel? How about improving desalinization processes? Pump some money into the project, thats what you liberals like to do. Maybe we should put effort into it but as long as it is cheaper to clear cut millions of acres of rainforest and no one is getting upset that they are it won't happen.

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