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  • Originally posted by Commodore View Post

    There are a dozen natural disasters that could happen tomorrow that could cause the very same population displacement, civil unrest, and terrorism. Why focus on the one that takes the longest to happen, and provides the most time to adapt?

    They aren't focusing at all they just have to consider all possibilities.
    They probably have a plan for if Europe explodes into civil unrest and it spills over into the US it doesn't mean they think it's likely or that they are condoning it and the same is true for climate change. Just because they are planning for some possible effects doesn't mean they have any opinion on the veracity of climate change.

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    • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
      They aren't focusing at all they just have to consider all possibilities.
      They probably have a plan for if Europe explodes into civil unrest and it spills over into the US it doesn't mean they think it's likely or that they are condoning it and the same is true for climate change. Just because they are planning for some possible effects doesn't mean they have any opinion on the veracity of climate change.


      Well, somebody is focusing, because every time someone questions anything about the hysteria, people who would just as soon spit in the general direction as the CIA start using them as proof that it must be real.

      They should really be focusing on the plans to invade Canada.

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      • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
        It's hardly rocket science to think that climate change may cause see level rise and thus a loss of land which may cause huge population movements and cause civil unrest and terrorism.
        The CIA has to think the unthinkable so they have plans should they happen so I'm unsure why you think the above statement is so outlandish other than your absolute hatred of anything involving climate change.
        Sea level rise happens very gradually, so any population movement it may cause will not be in the form of huge numbers of people moving all at once, and so will not cause civil unrest and terrorism.

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        • Climate change will mean more severe weather events making some areas pretty much uninhabitable causing the movement of large numbers of people who may not be welcome that causing conflict and possibly terrorism.
          As I said it's not that hard to imagine so plans are not that unbelievable and all those guys do all day is plan so again not that unusual for them to consider it.

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          • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
            Climate change will mean more severe weather events making some areas pretty much uninhabitable causing the movement of large numbers of people who may not be welcome that causing conflict and possibly terrorism.
            As I said it's not that hard to imagine so plans are not that unbelievable and all those guys do all day is plan so again not that unusual for them to consider it.

            But from all observations, supposed Climate Change has not lead to more severe weather events. Our hurricanes are at an all time low. The global alarmists are using every trick in their bag to try to convince people of something that has no obvious evidence.

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            • NASA seem to think storms are gaining in intensity but obviously you know better than NASA.

              http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...orms/page2.php

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              • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                Climate change will mean more severe weather events making some areas pretty much uninhabitable causing the movement of large numbers of people who may not be welcome that causing conflict and possibly terrorism.
                As I said it's not that hard to imagine so plans are not that unbelievable and all those guys do all day is plan so again not that unusual for them to consider it.

                So its not sea level rise that is going to cause the movement of masses of people, but rather "severe weather events". This is possible especially in the case of long term droughts. This is not necessarily caused by human activity. It has happened many times in the past.

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                • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                  NASA seem to think storms are gaining in intensity but obviously you know better than NASA.

                  http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...orms/page2.php

                  Yeah, the same NASA that has been promoting global warming, doctoring records and is working for Obama.

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                  • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post


                    Yeah, the same NASA that has been promoting global warming, doctoring records and is working for Obama.
                    They work for all of us.

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                    • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                      They work for all of us.
                      We all pay their salaries, but they answer to unelected bureaucrats, who in turn answer to political appointees.

                      This is what happens when the only government agency focused on other planets isn't allowed to do it's job. It has find someway to justify it's existence.
                      Last edited by Commodore; 11-20-2015, 05:42 PM.

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                      • Record Crushing Fraud From NOAA And NASA Ahead Of Paris

                        Not only do NASA and NOAA make up fake data for much of the planet, but they massively tamper with their existing data, like this station in Siberia where they have cooled the past nearly two degrees C since 2012 – and now claim that it is two degrees C above normal.


                        http://realclimatescience.com/2015/1...head-of-paris/


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                        • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                          They work for all of us.
                          That's a nice naive thought.

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                          • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                            That's a nice naive thought.

                            Did they work for Obama 20 years ago when the data they cite was taken?

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                            • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                              Did they work for Obama 20 years ago when the data they cite was taken?
                              They didn't have to. They can just change the data.

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                              • Imagine that, this "consensus" among scientists about "climate change" ...

                                ... well, how do I say this ?

                                Ah, I got it !

                                We've been told that there is a "consensus" among scientists about man caused "global warming" ..

                                ... or wait, they changed it to "climate change" ... yes, but we've been lied to !

                                There IS NO CONSENSUS among scientists - not even among CLIMATE SCIENTISTS OR METEOROLIGISTS - concerning this fraud given to us by one Al Gore. Who made a lot of money creating a nice propaganda peice called "An Inconvenient Truth"

                                When will we get it ?

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                                Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit ‘Irrational’ – ‘Based On Nonsense’ – ‘Leading us down a false path’

                                AUSTIN, Texas – A team of prominent scientists gathered in Texas today at a climate summit to declare that fears of man-made global warming were “irrational” and “based on nonsense” that “had nothing to do with science.” They warned that “we are being led down a false path” by the upcoming UN climate summit in Paris.

                                “Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. They are all based on computer models that do not work.

                                “The UN IPCC wisely avoided making the claim that 51% of a small change in temperature constitutes a problem. They left this to the politicians and anyone who took the bait,” he said.

                                Lindzen noted that National Academy of Sciences president Dr. Ralph Cicerone has even admitted that there is no evidence for a catastrophic claims of man-made global warming. See: Backing away from climate alarm? NAS Pres. Ralph Cicerone says ‘we don’t have that kind of evidence’ to claim we are ‘going to fry’ from AGW

                                MIT Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen: 'Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial.' - 'When someone says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period.'

                                Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer: 'Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. We are being led down a false path. To call carbon dioxide a pollutant is really Orwellian. You are calling something a pollutant that we all produce. Where does that lead us eventually?'

                                Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore: 'We are dealing with pure political propaganda that has nothing to do with science.'


                                ...

                                Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen, an emeritus Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT, derided what he termed climate “catastrophism.”

                                “Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial,” Lindzen said.

                                Lindzen also challenged the oft-repeated UN IPCC claim that most of warming over past 50 years was due to mankind.

                                “People get excited over this. Is this statement alarming? No,” Lindzen stated.

                                “We are speaking of small changes 0.25 Celcius would be about 51% of the recent warming and that strongly suggests a low and inconsequential climate sensitivity – meaning no problem at all,” Lindzen explained.

                                “I urge you when looking at a graph, check the scales! The uncertainty here is tenths of a degree,” he noted.

                                When someone points to this and says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period. And they are arguing over hundredths of a degree when it is uncertain in tenths of a degree,” Lindzen said.

                                “And the proof that the uncertainty is tenths of a degree are the adjustments that are being made. If you can adjust temperatures to 2/10ths of a degree, it means it wasn’t certain to 2/10ths of a degree,” he said.

                                Lindzen also featured 2006 quotes from Scientist Dr. Miike Hulme, Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia, and Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, admitting that claims of a climate catastrophe were not the “language of science.”


                                “The discourse of catastrophe is a campaigning device,” Hulme wrote to the BBC in 2006. “The language of catastrophe is not the language of science. To state that climate change will be ‘catastrophic’ hides a cascade of value-laden assumptions which do not emerge from empirical or theoretical science,” Hulme wrote.

                                “Is any amount of climate change catastrophic? Catastrophic for whom, for where, and by when? What index is being used to measure the catastrophe?” Hulme continued.

                                Lindzen singled out Secretary of State John Kerry for his ‘ignorance’ on science.


                                “John Kerry stands alone,” Lindzen said. “Kerry expresses his ignorance of what science is,” he added.

                                ...

                                [ In other words John Kerry is your typical dumb-ass politician trying to sell another bad idea ]

                                http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/...-a-false-path/



                                .... the same bad idea originally dreamed up by Al Gore.

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