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  • Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
    Until these well paid climate boys can create a predictive model that works their understanding of co2 isn't up to snuff and their predictio are of no relevance

    So if they were using experiments to validate a hypothesis they would have failed miserably

    Their model takes the place of experiments given the situation


    So what we have here is like kipling's monkeys in that we all say so, so it must be true!

    Billions have been given to these boys giving them a steady income but only for co2 as little goes to the primary driver of climate which is our star. Billions has not produced a viable model while their emails proved they were dishonorable and dishonest which would have been a career killer in any other field
    Sadly for Republicans younger voters have bought the climate change hoax hook line and sinker. Een guys like Lindsay Graham has switched teams on climate. Florida Republicans are becoming believer and with a big hurricane bearing down on Florida I wonder down there are going to feel about the FEMA funds Trumredirected to his vanity wall?

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    • Originally posted by redrover View Post

      Sadly for Republicans younger voters have bought the climate change hoax hook line and sinker. Een guys like Lindsay Graham has switched teams on climate. Florida Republicans are becoming believer and with a big hurricane bearing down on Florida I wonder down there are going to feel about the FEMA funds Trumredirected to his vanity wall?
      A good bit of advice is to judge people on their actions, not their words. Obama just paid over 20 million for a low lying waterfront property on a small island. That is a good indication of what he really thinks about the climate alarmism that he spouts at every opportunity. Same goes for other high profile climate fear mongers like Gore and Decaprio. They own waterfront property while trying to convince people that sea-levels are going to go up by 6 or 10 or 16 feet by the end of the century.

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      • Originally posted by Brexx View Post
        A good bit of advice is to judge people on their actions, not their words.

        Obama just paid over 20 million for a low lying waterfront property on a small island.

        That is a good indication of what he really thinks about the climate alarmism that he spouts at every opportunity.

        Same goes for other high profile climate fear mongers like Gore and Decaprio.

        They own waterfront property while trying to convince people that sea-levels are going to go up by 6 or 10 or 16 feet by the end of the century.
        Heck I thought they were telling us the oceans were going to be rising and flooding coastal cities in the next ten or twenty years - 10 or so years ago, weren't they saying such things ?

        But then they buy beach-front properties .... ??

        Hmmmmm...

        It sounds very very fishy ... and doesn't look like we'll be seeing fish swimming in the streets like they told us ... and apparently didn't believe themselves !?!?

        But Al, he saw fish swimming in the streets on a sunny day ... he has some good connections to some good stuff obviously

        And obviously has no clue what the hell he's talking about LOL

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEQcyAYyLww

        https://www.theblaze.com/video/al-go...on-a-sunny-day

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        • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

          Heck I thought they were telling us the oceans were going to be rising and flooding coastal cities in the next ten or twenty years - 10 or so years ago, weren't they saying such things ?

          But then they buy beach-front properties .... ??

          Hmmmmm...

          It sounds very very fishy ... and doesn't look like we'll be seeing fish swimming in the streets like they told us ... and apparently didn't believe themselves !?!?

          But Al, he saw fish swimming in the streets on a sunny day ... he has some good connections to some good stuff obviously

          And obviously has no clue what the hell he's talking about LOL

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEQcyAYyLww

          https://www.theblaze.com/video/al-go...on-a-sunny-day
          According to the predictions the alarmists were making back in the 80s and 90s places like Miami and Manhattan should be under water by now. People who fall for this fear mongering must be too young to remember how wrong these people have been for so many years.

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          • Originally posted by Brexx View Post
            According to the predictions the alarmists were making back in the 80s and 90s places like Miami and Manhattan should be under water by now. People who fall for this fear mongering must be too young to remember how wrong these people have been for so many years.
            That is what needs to continue to be shown to the world over and over and over.

            These idiot doomsayers have been doing this for a long time.

            They're best ignored for the fools they are

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            Over the last hundred years, millions and billions have run for cover from ...

            Halley's Comet's tail,

            a population bomb,

            peak oil shortages,

            global mass starvation,

            ozone holes,

            Y2K,

            a coming ice age, and ...

            now are being mesmerized into imagining they'll be undone by the very carbon dioxide they exhale.


            Future historians may wonder if something happened to cloud the collective intelligence of the world's population in the 20th and 21st centuries, since no matter how many outrageous false alarms have been set off it's as if the memory and ludicrousness of the previous imaginary doomsday that never dawned is constantly wiped away so the next apocalyptic deadline can take its place.

            Mankind's prospects, in fact expanding as never before, are completely ignored by the bizarrely fatal view of a non-future the panic mongers somehow successfully peddle.


            ...

            https://www.newsmax.com/davidnabhan/.../28/id/930371/

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            • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

              That is what needs to continue to be shown to the world over and over and over.

              These idiot doomsayers have been doing this for a long time.

              They're best ignored for the fools they are

              ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              Over the last hundred years, millions and billions have run for cover from ...

              Halley's Comet's tail,

              a population bomb,

              peak oil shortages,

              global mass starvation,

              ozone holes,

              Y2K,

              a coming ice age, and ...

              now are being mesmerized into imagining they'll be undone by the very carbon dioxide they exhale.


              Future historians may wonder if something happened to cloud the collective intelligence of the world's population in the 20th and 21st centuries, since no matter how many outrageous false alarms have been set off it's as if the memory and ludicrousness of the previous imaginary doomsday that never dawned is constantly wiped away so the next apocalyptic deadline can take its place.

              Mankind's prospects, in fact expanding as never before, are completely ignored by the bizarrely fatal view of a non-future the panic mongers somehow successfully peddle.


              ...

              https://www.newsmax.com/davidnabhan/.../28/id/930371/
              Currently 8 in 10 Americans believe that human activity is fueling climate change. Of course stable geniuses like T rump know it's a hoax.http://www.startribune.com/americans...ows/560281902/

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              • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                Currently 8 in 10 Americans believe that human activity is fueling climate change. Of course stable geniuses like T rump know it's a hoax.http://www.startribune.com/americans...ows/560281902/
                I seriously doubt the accuracy of the polls taken that show such numbers.

                Any numbers of people that HAVE bought into this latest climate hysteria, are people who are easily influenced by the constant chatter and talk of things that don't have to be true, they just have to be talked about endlessly, never-mind the science or the data - just talk about it over and over and over ... you can sell global warming, you can sell socialism, you can sell ANYTHING.

                Maybe.

                We'll see if Americans are so easily brainwashed by endlessly chattering nonsense and lies. We just have to give it time and we'll see.

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                • Scientists Call for an End to Climate Change Alarmism

                  Written by Vijay Jayaraj on July 27, 2019
                  Last month, 90 scientists from Italy signed a joint petition to end the fake climate alarmism promoted by the United Nations and mainstream media. In view of what they call unjustifiable exaggerations and unrealistic catastrophic predictions, they urged the government not to make policy decisions based on fake climate emergencies, warning that doing so would put the country’s future in peril.

                  Why are these scientists increasingly restless over doomsday claims about climate change, and even ready to petition leaders of their country?

                  Italy is a part of the Paris climate agreement that requires member states to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Earlier this year, the Italian government expressed its intentions to host COP26, the UN’s 2020 climate summit. Acceptance of the energy-restrictive Paris agreement and subscription to its ideals would spell disaster to Italy. This is one reason why the timing of the petition is deemed critical.

                  The petition also comes at a time when fake climate emergencies are being declared across the globe. For example,
                  • The Guardian has officially declared that it will use the term “climate emergency, crisis or breakdown” instead of “climate change” in order to highlight what they see as an existential threat facing the world.
                  • In Canada, the House of Commons declared a “National Climate Emergency.”
                  • And Pope Francis, in meeting at the Vatican with leaders of several multinational oil companies, declared “a global climate emergency,” adding that the failure to reduce greenhouse emissions will be “a brutal act of injustice toward the poor and future generations”.

                  Who signed the petition?

                  The 90 scientists who signed this petition all have specialized expertise in climate sciences. They work in Climatology, Meteorology, Atmospheric Physics, Remote Sensing, Physical Chemistry, Applied Geology, Oceanography, Energy, Urban Planning, Satellite Interferometry, Astrophysics, Astronomy, and other relevant fields.
                  Running around declaring emergencies isn't going to do much.

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                  • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                    Running around declaring emergencies isn't going to do much.
                    So let's reelect and deny that there is any problem. We'll see if denying sexual accusations works as well as denying climate change.You think you have an immigration problem now, just wait. Climate change has always been a powerful motivator for migration.

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                    • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                      So let's reelect and deny that there is any problem.
                      First have to prove that there IS a problem, and that it IS human caused green house gases that are the root cause, and not something else. THEN real, workable, realistic solutions, and not some leftist mass wealth redistribution that would accomplish little but destroying Western Democracies economies.

                      We'll see if denying sexual accusations works as well as denying climate change.You think you have an immigration problem now, just wait. Climate change has always been a powerful motivator for migration.

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                      • Originally posted by eohrnberger View Post

                        First have to prove that there IS a problem, and that it IS human caused green house gases that are the root cause, and not something else. THEN real, workable, realistic solutions, and not some leftist mass wealth redistribution that would accomplish little but destroying Western Democracies economies.


                        The oil industry has known for a long time that climate change is the real deal and they are major contributors to the problem. They were so sure it was real they took decisive steps to protect their assets from raising sea levels and simultaneously running a dis information campaign to convince the huckleberries that it was a hoax. They had assistance from people like senator Jim Inhofe proved that climate was a hoax by bringing a snowball onto the senate floor. that's all the climate deniers needed for proof. The president provided more proof for the huckleberry class. by noting that in February that it was snowing in Minnesota, and of course if climate change was real it would not be snowing in Minnesota in February. I wonder what it feels like to be a huckleberry?https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/globa...limate-change/

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                        • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                          The oil industry has known for a long time that climate change is the real deal and they are major contributors to the problem. They were so sure it was real they took decisive steps to protect their assets from raising sea levels and simultaneously running a dis information campaign to convince the huckleberries that it was a hoax. They had assistance from people like senator Jim Inhofe proved that climate was a hoax by bringing a snowball onto the senate floor. that's all the climate deniers needed for proof. The president provided more proof for the huckleberry class. by noting that in February that it was snowing in Minnesota, and of course if climate change was real it would not be snowing in Minnesota in February. I wonder what it feels like to be a huckleberry?https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/globa...limate-change/
                          Incorrect

                          The global warming scam has been exposed & debunked many times over

                          By science & scientists

                          Your silly ranting only proves that you're silly and don't like science

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                          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            Incorrect

                            The global warming scam has been exposed & debunked many times over

                            By science & scientists

                            Your silly ranting only proves that you're silly and don't like science
                            You remind me of the poker player who is still trying to run a bluff though all the up cards show that there is no way he has a winning hand. My guess is you are someone who has lots of money tied up in oil stocks and you figure that you will be long gone before the most disastrous consequences of climate change reach you. Maybe you won't think it's so silly when we see you in court. Claims that climate change has been debunked is a flat out bald face lie.https://insideclimatenews.org/news/0...torney-general

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                            • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                              You remind me of the poker player who is still trying to run a bluff though all the up cards show that there is no way he has a winning hand. My guess is you are someone who has lots of money tied up in oil stocks and you figure that you will be long gone before the most disastrous consequences of climate change reach you.
                              Incorrect again

                              Originally posted by redrover View Post
                              Maybe you won't think it's so silly when we see you in court. Claims that climate change has been debunked is a flat out bald face lie.https://insideclimatenews.org/news/0...torney-general
                              Sure, we'll "see you in court." ... this will go nowhere.

                              The global warming hoax actually has been debunked, if you paid any attention to things like facts and science, you would know this.

                              You and your fruity friends at MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, PBS etc can lie, caper about and scream like fools as long as you wish...

                              But I hate to tell you, the global warming panic is for fools only. Enjoy if you like such things

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                              • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                                The oil industry has known for a long time that climate change is the real deal and they are major contributors to the problem. They were so sure it was real they took decisive steps to protect their assets from raising sea levels and simultaneously running a dis information campaign to convince the huckleberries that it was a hoax. They had assistance from people like senator Jim Inhofe proved that climate was a hoax by bringing a snowball onto the senate floor. that's all the climate deniers needed for proof. The president provided more proof for the huckleberry class. by noting that in February that it was snowing in Minnesota, and of course if climate change was real it would not be snowing in Minnesota in February. I wonder what it feels like to be a huckleberry?https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/globa...limate-change/
                                These corporations also know that without fossil fuels for energy the civilizcivilization created by fossil fuels would implode without such fuels.

                                Yet if your thinking is affected by unicorns and rainbows you will miss an irrefutable fact of reality. And you might blow off both feet.

                                Truth...we are tied to fossil fuel for it created modern civilization and without it we implode.

                                Yet listening to the left this is an irrelevant fact.

                                And unless and until a new source of clean energy is found fossil fuels will continue to allow modern civ. to endure.

                                There is no need for these suppliers to lie about co2 and water vapor trapping heat and slightly increasing average temps


                                Logically more co2 can trap the sun's heat. So that may not be a hoax. But the devil may be in a plethora of fine details that get in the way of predictions. And so far the models cannot predict accurately although to many this does not matter. That it has not accurately predicted is like a failed hypothesis. But even this is irrelevant to the doomsday crowd.

                                This idea one should never question science is anti science. Yet such people are vilified! This is common in religion but has no place in science And yet we even hear sscientists vilifying those that are heretics and question!

                                Remember when the club of rome made alarming and dire predictions in regards to population growth? And yet they spoke with such certainty!

                                The short history of science tenfs to be iignored when it is basic idiocy to indulge in that.
                                Last edited by Blue Doggy; 4 weeks ago.

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