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  • Originally posted by redrover View Post

    I had a similar experience with my private insurance company that denied me treatment over the recommendations of my doctors.The doctor reviewing my case for the insurance company was a pediatric dermatologist. Go figure. Neurology dermatology same same.
    Never doubt the capacity of one large bureaucracy to impose the same amount of pain on John Q., as a bureaucracy in another sector. Giant, unresponsive insurance provider in the private sector, vs. the same thing in the public sector. Apples to apples, thank you.

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    • Originally posted by radcentr View Post
      Never doubt the capacity of one large bureaucracy to impose the same amount of pain on John Q., as a bureaucracy in another sector. Giant, unresponsive insurance provider in the private sector, vs. the same thing in the public sector. Apples to apples, thank you.
      I would think that the private insurer would have more incentive to seek the least expensive alternative at the expense of the patient.

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      • Originally posted by redrover View Post

        I would think that the private insurer would have more incentive to seek the least expensive alternative at the expense of the patient.
        That's true, unless the private insurer has competition. If the competition agrees to abuse the patient in the same way (cartels), then competition doesn't matter either. Problem with gummint insurance is when they become single payer, there is no alternative to that, besides being wealthy enuf to opt for the private market. Like the old Bell Telephone motto: "We don't care ...we don't have to".

        Which leads to my final point: We have a wonderful health care system that gives the working class many choices, most important among them, "who will give me a 3% discount for an extra 20% of abuse?"

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        • Originally posted by radcentr View Post
          That's true, unless the private insurer has competition. If the competition agrees to abuse the patient in the same way (cartels), then competition doesn't matter either. Problem with gummint insurance is when they become single payer, there is no alternative to that, besides being wealthy enuf to opt for the private market. Like the old Bell Telephone motto: "We don't care ...we don't have to".

          Which leads to my final point: We have a wonderful health care system that gives the working class many choices, most important among them, "who will give me a 3% discount for an extra 20% of abuse?"
          The problem with you liberals is that you want more than you are willing to pay for. You want someone else to cover your costs.

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          • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
            The problem with you liberals is that you want more than you are willing to pay for. You want someone else to cover your costs.
            Yes, there is that... .but wait, there's more !!

            They're also racist, hate Christians, hate America and our history, praise Marx & Marxism !!

            ... and they promote violence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Of course they'll lie and deny - it's what they do best - but this is what liberals are about - destruction of America !

            They want to remake America into a racist, Eurosocialist hell-hole.

            Leftists teach racism at college campuses today !

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            A professor at a Bay Area college in California encouraged students to break United States laws in order to tear down the so-called white supremacy running the nations democracy.

            During a guest lecture presented as part of his schools Social Justice Lecture Series, Diablo Valley College (DVC) Political Science professor Albert Ponce reminded students how laws controlled slaves in American history, implying that todays laws are based on white supremacy and should be broken.

            Inciting lawlessness

            Ponces inflammatory White Supremacy in the U.S. lecture that he delivered on the community college campus located not far from San Francisco was recorded and later went viral.

            ...

            He went on to indicate that everyone from the Founding Fathers to todays government officials are racists who enforce laws based on white supremacy.

            Ponce is shown in his lecture standing in front of a photo of President Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions with a portrait of President Andrew Jackson visible in the background props he used to set up his racial charge.

            It is fitting that a white supremacist of old and a white supremacist of today exist and sit theyre smiling in the White House, Ponce shared during the lecture.

            The left-leaning professor then asked his students to think of solutions for his fabricated problem.

            No votings going to help. No writing your congressperson. We need to smash white supremacy at every institutional level in this country, beginning at the local space, at the state, at the federal system, and build something new. And thats frightening. Because we dont know what is to come.

            Ponces demonization of the president and his anti-Trump rally cry continued.

            ...

            He also berated Americas foundational document and praised one of the founders of communism.

            [The U.S. Constitution is a] white mans constitution, Ponce alleged, according to Campus Reform. Karl Marx [is] one of the most profound thinkers in the history of Western philosophy.

            He introduced his discussion about one of Americas Founders by using choice inflammatory language geared to incite racial tension.

            So, we begin with the fact that we exist in a white supremacist, patriarchal, heteronormative, capitalist system, Ponce began before talking about the constitutional framer, according to Campus Reform. [Jefferson] raped many [of his slaves], [but ] the state has socialized us into the state of glorifying [figures like Jefferson].


            [Ponce] grades students down and fails them if they dont agree with him [and] is known to encourage violence and tells his students that it is necessary for change,

            ...Diablo Valley College is [also] the former home of Professor Eric Clanton, who was arrested in May 2017 for attacking a pro-Trump activist with a bike lock,



            https://www.onenewsnow.com/education...hite-democracy

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            • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

              Yes, there is that... .but wait, there's more !!

              They're also racist, hate Christians, hate America and our history, praise Marx & Marxism !!

              ... and they promote violence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Of course they'll lie and deny - it's what they do best - but this is what liberals are about - destruction of America !

              They want to remake America into a racist, Eurosocialist hell-hole.

              Leftists teach racism at college campuses today !

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              A professor at a Bay Area college in California encouraged students to break United States laws in order to tear down the so-called white supremacy running the nations democracy.

              During a guest lecture presented as part of his schools Social Justice Lecture Series, Diablo Valley College (DVC) Political Science professor Albert Ponce reminded students how laws controlled slaves in American history, implying that todays laws are based on white supremacy and should be broken.

              Inciting lawlessness

              Ponces inflammatory White Supremacy in the U.S. lecture that he delivered on the community college campus located not far from San Francisco was recorded and later went viral.

              ...

              He went on to indicate that everyone from the Founding Fathers to todays government officials are racists who enforce laws based on white supremacy.

              Ponce is shown in his lecture standing in front of a photo of President Donald Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions with a portrait of President Andrew Jackson visible in the background props he used to set up his racial charge.

              It is fitting that a white supremacist of old and a white supremacist of today exist and sit theyre smiling in the White House, Ponce shared during the lecture.

              The left-leaning professor then asked his students to think of solutions for his fabricated problem.

              No votings going to help. No writing your congressperson. We need to smash white supremacy at every institutional level in this country, beginning at the local space, at the state, at the federal system, and build something new. And thats frightening. Because we dont know what is to come.

              Ponces demonization of the president and his anti-Trump rally cry continued.

              ...

              He also berated Americas foundational document and praised one of the founders of communism.

              [The U.S. Constitution is a] white mans constitution, Ponce alleged, according to Campus Reform. Karl Marx [is] one of the most profound thinkers in the history of Western philosophy.

              He introduced his discussion about one of Americas Founders by using choice inflammatory language geared to incite racial tension.

              So, we begin with the fact that we exist in a white supremacist, patriarchal, heteronormative, capitalist system, Ponce began before talking about the constitutional framer, according to Campus Reform. [Jefferson] raped many [of his slaves], [but ] the state has socialized us into the state of glorifying [figures like Jefferson].


              [Ponce] grades students down and fails them if they dont agree with him [and] is known to encourage violence and tells his students that it is necessary for change,

              ...Diablo Valley College is [also] the former home of Professor Eric Clanton, who was arrested in May 2017 for attacking a pro-Trump activist with a bike lock,



              https://www.onenewsnow.com/education...hite-democracy
              Besides being a slave owner he wasn't even a Christian like many other founding fathers who may have attended church about as much as Trump to appease the base. Jefferson even took the bible and did a little editing job removing all the magical hocus pocus.I won't get into a What about duel with you, but I seem to remember something about protestors being sucker punched at Trump rallies. Probably fake news.

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              • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                Besides being a slave owner he wasn't even a Christian like many other founding fathers who may have attended church about as much as Trump to appease the base. Jefferson even took the bible and did a little editing job removing all the magical hocus pocus.I won't get into a What about duel with you, but I seem to remember something about protestors being sucker punched at Trump rallies. Probably fake news.
                Only it was the Trump supporters who were attacked.

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                • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                  The problem with you liberals is that you want more than you are willing to pay for. You want someone else to cover your costs.
                  The problem with some righties? When you throw them a bone, that dog tries to swallow it sideways, without even trying to chew on it first. Post #258 is as much a criticism of the Big Left's single-payer (gummint) health insurance, as it criticizes the failure of the private sector's mess. This is a valuable service provided by the radical center, OMD: A healthy criticism of failures on either side of the issue.

                  I want to preserve my natural right to health care, which is practically ingrained in our genes, it's so old. Our caveman ancestors were productive, therefore received the services of a tribal healer. It worked that way all the way up to now, the first time we suffer a claim that citizens of a republic have no natural right to basic health care services. Some righties are buying that genetic defect hook, line and sinker. You're moving way beyond the denial of a right to the latest Buck Rogers' technology; you're claiming I have to pay full freight on everything, especially pre-existing conditions. The Buck Rogers exclusion would have been reasonable (that's probably how it worked since the beginning of healing). Paying back the healer -full cost- for uncomplicated basic services is also reasonable. The rest of the GOP claim? That boils down to breaking the natural right to basic health care -help from one's group, in return for one's individual contribution.

                  This would be the first time people in power have the brass cojones to claim people shouldn't share any costs for pre-existing conditions, at least in a country that claims status as a republic.

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                  • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    Yes, there is that... .but wait, there's more !!

                    They're also racist, hate Christians, hate America and our history, praise Marx & Marxism !!

                    ... and they promote violence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    Of course they'll lie and deny - it's what they do best - but this is what liberals are about - destruction of America !

                    They want to remake America into a racist, Eurosocialist hell-hole.

                    Leftists teach racism at college campuses today !

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                    [I]A professor at a Bay Area college in California encouraged students to break United States laws in order to tear down the so-called white supremacy running the nations democracy.

                    During a guest lecture presented as part of his schools Social Justice Lecture Series, Diablo Valley College (DVC) Political Science professor Albert Ponce reminded students how laws controlled slaves in American history, implying that todays laws are based on white supremacy and should be broken.
                    ... [/URL]
                    That's special. All leftists in the same boat, based on a rant from a demented Marxist instructor from Diablo Valley College? Let's up the game, CT. Get something out of a land-grant university. No need to go to one of the Ivy League schools, stick with 50+ land-grant schools, many marxist professors to choose from. (fe) Identity politics was a wrong turn for the left, IMO, and there are plenty of examples of professors (not instructors) backing that particular idea. Finding a nobody instructor from a nowhere community college shows low-energy effort, for criticizing the entire left wing.

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                    • Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                      That's special. All leftists in the same boat, based on a rant from a demented Marxist instructor from Diablo Valley College? Let's up the game, CT. Get something out of a land-grant university. No need to go to one of the Ivy League schools, stick with 50+ land-grant schools, many marxist professors to choose from. (fe) Identity politics was a wrong turn for the left, IMO, and there are plenty of examples of professors (not instructors) backing that particular idea. Finding a nobody instructor from a nowhere community college shows low-energy effort, for criticizing the entire left wing.
                      Were this a single & unique incident, you'd have a point.

                      It isn't.

                      These kinds of words and rhetoric regularly come out of our colleges these days.

                      What is it do you think that has caused the unmasking of so many Marxists and America hating people in our colleges ?. . . everywhere else too

                      It is our current president. He has exposed who they really are, they cannot hide their hatreds any longer.

                      I imagine not every liberal hates America and wants to remake America into a racist, Eurosocialist hell-hole.

                      Hopefully they will abandon the fruits, nuts, flakes & lovers of violence on the left... we have to hope.

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                      • Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                        That's special. All leftists in the same boat, based on a rant from a demented Marxist instructor from Diablo Valley College? Let's up the game, CT. Get something out of a land-grant university. No need to go to one of the Ivy League schools, stick with 50+ land-grant schools, many marxist professors to choose from. (fe) Identity politics was a wrong turn for the left, IMO, and there are plenty of examples of professors (not instructors) backing that particular idea. Finding a nobody instructor from a nowhere community college shows low-energy effort, for criticizing the entire left wing.
                        Maybe not all leftists but that boat is certainly getting bigger.

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                        • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                          Maybe not all leftists but that boat is certainly getting bigger.
                          I sure wish you had a more precise definition of left wing From your posts I gather definition includes anyone who has ever broken a window or vandalized an automobile or questioned the existence of the Wizard of Oz Leftists keep trying to look up God's dress to see if she really is a woman.

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                          • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                            Were this a single & unique incident, you'd have a point.

                            It isn't.

                            These kinds of words and rhetoric regularly come out of our colleges these days.

                            What is it do you think that has caused the unmasking of so many Marxists and America hating people in our colleges ?. . . everywhere else too

                            It is our current president. He has exposed who they really are, they cannot hide their hatreds any longer.

                            I imagine not every liberal hates America and wants to remake America into a racist, Eurosocialist hell-hole.

                            Hopefully they will abandon the fruits, nuts, flakes & lovers of violence on the left... we have to hope.
                            Still too much of a stretch. If I attempt to claim the right is defined by the opinion of one, or one dozen or 100 neo nazis, you would object. Rightfully so.

                            You still won't pick up on the "identify politics" within the progressive movement? That includes several thousand people, many operating within the Democratic party. That would be a better argument against the left. Antifa, anarchists, and the odd marxist suffering from dementia is a much smaller subgroup within the left.

                            Europe is considered a socialist hell-hole? From Poland to GB, Italy to Finland. Did you throw that in there to demonstrate small minority opinions within the right wing, or do you seriously claim that all righties believe they'll be shipped off to a Stalinist Death Camp if they set foot in Paris?

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                            • Originally posted by radcentr View Post
                              Still too much of a stretch. If I attempt to claim the right is defined by the opinion of one, or one dozen or 100 neo nazis, you would object. Rightfully so.

                              You still won't pick up on the "identify politics" within the progressive movement? That includes several thousand people, many operating within the Democratic party. That would be a better argument against the left. Antifa, anarchists, and the odd marxist suffering from dementia is a much smaller subgroup within the left.

                              Europe is considered a socialist hell-hole? From Poland to GB, Italy to Finland. Did you throw that in there to demonstrate small minority opinions within the right wing, or do you seriously claim that all righties believe they'll be shipped off to a Stalinist Death Camp if they set foot in Paris?
                              They certainly are the loudest.

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                              • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                                I sure wish you had a more precise definition of left wing From your posts I gather definition includes anyone who has ever broken a window or vandalized an automobile or questioned the existence of the Wizard of Oz Leftists keep trying to look up God's dress to see if she really is a woman.
                                I don't know how you define left-wing, but when you defend groups like Antifa that puts you firmly on the left. People who march carrying the hammer and sickle? That's not left-wing?

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