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  • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
    You are right this bathroom nonsense (the bigoted laws that ignore functional reality in favor of imagined reality) will be rejected. No fantasy or foolishness but application of the law as it exists and can be applied in a non-prejudicial fashion. How you or I feel about transgender people has nothing to do with how the law applies to them. Declaring this issue is about using "whatever bathroom they want" is minimizing it and attempting to reduce it to absurdity to hide what it really is. You've been joining these folks in the bathroom for decades and you likely never knew it and all of a sudden we need laws telling us who can and can't use which bathroom because of some folks reaction to those "trouble-making activists" who were tired of having to hide or be victimized.
    This has nothing to do with "bigotry" or "prejudice" or how I feel about transgender people.

    This has to do with reality and truth.

    And as you say; "You've been joining these folks in the bathroom for decades and you likely never knew it and all of a sudden we need laws telling us who can and can't use which bathroom because of some folks reaction to those "trouble-making activists" who were tired of having to hide or be victimized."



    ... except no one was "hiding" or being "victimized." That's part of the fantasy used to try to make this into an issue. It won't work. So very sorry.

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    The Obama administration has taken two extraordinary steps this week in their attempt to pander to so-called “LGBT Rights” activists, and both of them are getting huge backlash. From citizens, and from states.

    The Obama administration sent out a decree threatening public schools with loss of funding if they do not comply with his personal whim that men should be allowed in women’s bathrooms and locker rooms. A whim shared with, and no doubt celebrated by, perverts with nefarious plans who have spent years trying to get into women’s bathrooms and have built entire grotesque web industries around the video thus obtained. So much the easier, now.

    North Carolina fought back with a countersuit. But they do not stand alone. Eight states, including North Carolina, have signed on to a brief to a federal appeals court asking to re-hear a case with a Virginia transgender student seeking to use the boys’ bathroom. The others are West Virginia, Arizona, Kansas, Nebraska, Texas, Utah, and Maine.

    There are also declarations being made by Governors against the administration’s obvious overreach.

    As we noted, Texas is standing firm, with both Gov. Abbott and Lt. Gov. Patrick issuing powerful statements. As noted here, there are other such lines being drawn:

    Arkansas Governor Asa Hutchison advises schools to disregard Obama’s decree altogether.

    Gov. Asa Hutchinson ‎@AsaHutchinson
    As Gov., I recommend that school districts disregard @POTUS's “guidance” on gender identification in schools.

    Alabama‘s Attorney General issued his own statement.


    “The Obama Administration’s new guidance document is just one more example of the kind of federal overreach that we have come to expect from this White House,” Strange said in the statement. “School bathroom use is an issue that should be decided by parents, teachers, and principals — not federal bureaucrats.

    “The DOJ guidance document is also wrong on the law,” the statement continues. “Title IX allows schools to have separate facilities for separate sexes. The law says ‘sex,’ not gender identity.

    “If the Obama Administration tries to enforce this absurd edict, I will work with other Attorneys General to challenge it,”
    Strange said.


    Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder made a blistering statement in support of North Carolina and condemning the Justice Department:

    “By inserting itself into North Carolina’s lawmaking, the Obama Justice Department is overstepping its authority in violation of the 10th Amendment to the Constitution. It justifies this overreach by unilaterally redefining federal anti-discrimination law, something only Congress has the authority to do. We saw this on the local level in February when the full force of the federal government was unleashed in a similar way on the city of Ferguson. The DOJ told Ferguson officials they could either accept an agreement the city couldn’t afford, or fight a lawsuit they couldn’t afford.

    “Now, Attorney General Loretta Lynch and her DOJ cohorts are threatening action against North Carolina for the ‘crime’ of wanting to designate bathrooms in government buildings for men and women only. If the federal government can force states to bow to its command over bathroom policies, is there anything beyond its reach?

    “I stand with North Carolina and Gov. Pat McCrory, and I urge Attorney General Chris Koster and Gov. Jay Nixon to stand up to this federal abuse of power. This issue goes way beyond North Carolina. It is an unprecedented assault on our privacy and safety. This DOJ will not stop in North Carolina. By targeting this one state, the Obama Administration has telegraphed what it intends to do to any state that tries to protect its residents’ right to privacy against a far-left radical agenda.”


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    http://www.redstate.com/absentee/201...room-bullying/

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    • You honestly think transgender people havenkt been attacked for using the bathroom of the sex they identify with? And yes a law written to deny a minority access to a right or service it has had access to for decades is based in bigotry and even seeming ignorance of exsisting law of the land at state and federal levels.

      The law (in NC) also says the communities and instituions within the state have no right to make their own rules in this reguard. Please expllin how this example of big government isn't big government?

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      • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
        You honestly think transgender people havenkt been attacked for using the bathroom of the sex they identify with? And yes a law written to deny a minority access to a right or service it has had access to for decades is based in bigotry and even seeming ignorance of exsisting law of the land at state and federal levels.

        The law (in NC) also says the communities and instituions within the state have no right to make their own rules in this reguard. Please expllin how this example of big government isn't big government?
        Sure "transgender" people might have been attacked in bathrooms. So have "normal" people. That's a very desperate grasp at straws. As is your repeated mis-use of words like "bigot," "bigotry," "hate," "ignorance" and all the rest.

        As I've already said, this garbage about "transgender" people and bathrooms has nothing to do with transgender people and bathrooms.

        This is about Mr. obama & his peacock-like display & attempt at being a man - he really wants to be a man.... but that's another topic - and he wishes we would "obey him."

        This is the beginning of his "last act of defiance," his final act of war against western civilization.

        He's an opportunist using "transgender" people as a tool. Using them & bathrooms against ALL of us. Big government ? This is what we see in dictatorships - men issuing "decrees" that must be obeyed.

        Remember Americans, you put this man in the Whitehouse TWO TIMES !!!

        Maybe we'd better be more careful about deciding to vote for a person because they're "black" or "female" ?


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        ...I don't know if Obama planned this. I do know that this is a minor parallel to major atrocities.

        My male friends express their frustration to me. They want to protect their wives and daughters. Male school administrators and elected officials are equally frustrated and increasingly desperate. My heart goes out to them as they juggle their natural urge to protect against Obama's and society's threats to stigmatize them as bigots and punish them financially.


        [ Obey or you're a "hateful bigot" - standard line of mindless, leftist swill ]

        I would like to address the transgendered, including one of my loved ones. (Love to you if by any chance you are reading this.)

        The Left is using you. The Left doesn't care about you. The Left cares about taking down Western civilization. You are merely the tool, in the same way that they are using Muslims and African Americans and women. They are using you in the same way that they once used my ancestors, the so-called "white ethnics," the immigrant Poles, Italians, and Jews who arrived in America a hundred or so years ago and were recruited and then spat out when they refused to relinquish their families, their patriotism, and their God.

        Read left-wing literature published early in the twentieth century. We were the beautiful workers back then. Read left-wing literature now. We suddenly morph into monsters, the worst reactionaries, the biggest obstacles to revolution.

        My transgendered fellow citizens, don't buy the left's product. Don't be their tool. They will betray you as quickly and thoroughly as they betray everyone they use. Look what they did to Juan Williams. Look what they did to the women of Cologne, Germany.

        When you, the transgendered, are no longer useful to them, you will be out in the cold again. They will denounce you as decadent, as they have done in the past !!!

        I appeal to you: reject this fascism. Come to terms with the rest of us. Let's work on a solution that respects everyone. -
        By Danusha Goska

        http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/..._familiar.html

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        • 2 Tim 4:3-4

          3
          For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
          4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

          We are now in that time when what people "feel" is now a right. You have the right to feel like you are a woman. Sound doctrine or what we used to call facts, no longer matter. Feelings are now accepted as the norm. It won't be long before pedophiles' feelings will be revered and anyone who disagrees will be labeled a bigot.

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          • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
            2 Tim 4:3-4

            3
            For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
            4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

            We are now in that time when what people "feel" is now a right. You have the right to feel like you are a woman. Sound doctrine or what we used to call facts, no longer matter. Feelings are now accepted as the norm. It won't be long before pedophiles' feelings will be revered and anyone who disagrees will be labeled a bigot.
            I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the mockery and hate that usually comes from those ... who make a common practice of calling US hateful. Quoting Scripture always stirs up the hatred in "progressives," makes them say and do foolish things.

            Interesting isn't it ? It is, and it's also very interesting what we see happening today, how it was written of so many centuries ago. We were told these things were coming.

            No one believed.

            Now they are happening.

            They still don't believe ... some are seeing, but many are blinded.

            We can have hope.

            Liberal stupidity will be the undoing .. of liberal stupidity, don't you see ?

            We have a Harvard Moron - I mean professor - saying Christians should be treated like Nazis..,,

            we have an idiotic, fraud "president" demanding all Americans obey his decree about restroom use in public schools concerning "transgender" kids ... this is just a start.

            Liberals, are doing well at destroying themselves. I hope they keep right on talking .... dictating foolishness at us and trying to blackmail people into accepting it.

            It's funny actually. Why in Gods name have they decided to do better at self destruction than the GOP ? They must see this as a contest ?

            Funny, I thought they liked to win ?!?!?!? But then I thought the GOP liked to win too.

            Maybe they think they're on "the biggest loser" show ???..............

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            ....
            While arguing that Christians and other conservative have lost the culture wars in America, a professor at Harvard University insists that those with such religious and political views should be treated like Nazis for taking a biblical stance on todays social issues.

            Harvard Law Professor Mark Tushnet claimed in a recent blog post that Americans with a biblical worldview and others leaning toward the political Right have ended up on the wrong side of history and should be dealt with similar to the way Adolf Hitlers Nazi Germans were treated after losing World War II.

            ...

            ...if the losers of the American culture wars are the functional equivalent of racists and Nazis, then Tushnets argument works wonderfully, Anderson concluded. But if Orthodox Jews, Roman Catholics, Evangelical Christians, Latter-Day Saints, faithful Muslims, and other Americans who believe that marriage is the union of a man and woman are decent members of society, maybe Tushnet should reconsider his hostility.


            http://www.onenewsnow.com/persecutio...s-harvard-prof

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            Mr. obamas attempt to destroy America to be "fundamentally transformed" will fail.

            Americans will not accept it.

            This is a distraction to keep us too busy to notice & stop his NEXT defiant action. Mr. obama knows full well he cannot force this kind of stupidity on the American people.


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            "Every African-American pastor in America ought to be at the pulpit this Sunday condemning this administration for putting the needs of low-income, minority children after the demands of this strange lobbying group that wants to turn human nature and common sense upside down."

            Gary Bauer
            Campaign for Working Families

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            "The Obama Administration is imposing its radical ideology on everyone by force rather than seeking approval of its agenda through the democratic process."

            Roger Severino
            Heritage Foundation
            (Former attorney with DOJ Civil Rights Division)

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            "It's essentially a coup, a leftist coup of local schools and parents and communities and states need to stand up against this. I do hope that Congress acts.

            "We need to stop it somehow, whether it's a taxpayer lawsuit; a mass, class-action lawsuit I don't know if that kind of thing is allowable; impeachment proceedings; or some other fashion. Maybe it's simply ignoring him because no law backs this up there is no law that backs up what he's doing."


            Linda Harvey
            Mission: America

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            "From Harvey Milk sexual indoctrination this month, to teaching kids throughout the year that homosexuality, bisexuality, transsexuality, and teen fornication are good and natural and maybe even for them the only way to protect your children from this harm is to permanently remove them from government schools, and to either enroll them in solid church schools or do homeschooling. Rescue your precious boys and girls while you still can.

            "We know that public schools have been dumbing down kids for a long time, but if school administrators think they have to submit to this bully tactic, it shows they've either dumbed themselves down or are purposefully deceiving parents once again."


            Randy Thomasson
            SaveCalifornia.com

            http://www.onenewsnow.com/legal-cour...ers-in-schools

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            • "Oh no there are different people in the world who don't believe things the way I do, run away, run away !! " ...yup that sure is a winning argument.

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              • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                I'm sure I don't have to remind you of the mockery and hate that usually comes from those ... who make a common practice of calling US hateful. Quoting Scripture always stirs up the hatred in "progressives," makes them say and do foolish things.

                Interesting isn't it ? It is, and it's also very interesting what we see happening today, how it was written of so many centuries ago. We were told these things were coming.

                No one believed.

                Now they are happening.

                They still don't believe ... some are seeing, but many are blinded.

                We can have hope.

                Liberal stupidity will be the undoing .. of liberal stupidity, don't you see ?

                We have a Harvard Moron - I mean professor - saying Christians should be treated like Nazis..,,

                we have an idiotic, fraud "president" demanding all Americans obey his decree about restroom use in public schools concerning "transgender" kids ... this is just a start.

                Liberals, are doing well at destroying themselves. I hope they keep right on talking .... dictating foolishness at us and trying to blackmail people into accepting it.

                It's funny actually. Why in Gods name have they decided to do better at self destruction than the GOP ? They must see this as a contest ?

                Funny, I thought they liked to win ?!?!?!? But then I thought the GOP liked to win too.

                Maybe they think they're on "the biggest loser" show ???..............

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                While arguing that Christians and other conservative have lost the “culture wars” in America, a professor at Harvard University insists that those with such religious and political views should be treated like Nazis for taking a biblical stance on today’s social issues.

                Harvard Law Professor Mark Tushnet claimed in a recent blog post that Americans with a biblical worldview and others leaning toward the political Right have ended up on the wrong side of history and should be dealt with similar to the way Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Germans were treated after losing World War II.

                ...

                ...if the ‘losers’ of the American ‘culture wars’ are the functional equivalent of racists and Nazis, then Tushnet’s argument works wonderfully,” Anderson concluded. “But if Orthodox Jews, Roman Catholics, Evangelical Christians, Latter-Day Saints, faithful Muslims, and other Americans who believe that marriage is the union of a man and woman are decent members of society, maybe Tushnet should reconsider his hostility.”


                http://www.onenewsnow.com/persecutio...s-harvard-prof

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                Mr. obamas attempt to destroy America to be "fundamentally transformed" will fail.

                Americans will not accept it.

                This is a distraction to keep us too busy to notice & stop his NEXT defiant action. Mr. obama knows full well he cannot force this kind of stupidity on the American people.


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                "Every African-American pastor in America ought to be at the pulpit this Sunday condemning this administration for putting the needs of low-income, minority children after the demands of this strange lobbying group that wants to turn human nature and common sense upside down."

                Gary Bauer
                Campaign for Working Families

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                "The Obama Administration is imposing its radical ideology on everyone by force rather than seeking approval of its agenda through the democratic process."

                Roger Severino
                Heritage Foundation
                (Former attorney with DOJ Civil Rights Division)

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                "It's essentially a coup, a leftist coup of local schools – and parents and communities and states need to stand up against this. I do hope that Congress acts.

                "We need to stop it somehow, whether it's a taxpayer lawsuit; a mass, class-action lawsuit – I don't know if that kind of thing is allowable; impeachment proceedings; or some other fashion. Maybe it's simply ignoring him because no law backs this up – there is no law that backs up what he's doing."


                Linda Harvey
                Mission: America

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                "From Harvey Milk sexual indoctrination this month, to teaching kids throughout the year that homosexuality, bisexuality, transsexuality, and teen fornication are good and natural and maybe even for them – the only way to protect your children from this harm is to permanently remove them from government schools, and to either enroll them in solid church schools or do homeschooling. Rescue your precious boys and girls while you still can.

                "We know that public schools have been dumbing down kids for a long time, but if school administrators think they have to submit to this bully tactic, it shows they've either dumbed themselves down or are purposefully deceiving parents once again."


                Randy Thomasson
                SaveCalifornia.com

                http://www.onenewsnow.com/legal-cour...ers-in-schools
                Though I like your sentiment and agree with you about the twisted of society, I can't agree that Americans won't let it happen. Not without a revolution, or possibly complete devastation of our country before a revolution. An entire generation is being raised without being taught the consequences of such liberal policies. Nor do they know what it's like to live in a less restricted world, with law, but not an imperialistic gov't. Many minds have been contorted and I can't say that they are no in greater numbers than the wise.

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                • Just what are the dire consequences of leaving people alone who are harming no one else?

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                  • As a point of reference here's a baptist pastor talking about what he's learned about transgender people:
                    https://baptistnews.com/2016/05/13/s...ender-persons/

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                    • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                      Just what are the dire consequences of leaving people alone who are harming no one else?
                      That's what we'd like to get back to.

                      We'd love to be left alone without liberals forcing their destructive ideas down our throats with lies and "law."

                      Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                      "Oh no there are different people in the world who don't believe things the way I do, run away, run away !! " ...yup that sure is a winning argument.



                      Strange that you would say that when, as a liberal you want to sue, lie about, remove, shut down and silence anyone that thinks differently.

                      No hypocrisy there - oh no !

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                      • Originally posted by msc View Post
                        Though I like your sentiment and agree with you about the twisted of society, I can't agree that Americans won't let it happen. Not without a revolution, or possibly complete devastation of our country before a revolution. An entire generation is being raised without being taught the consequences of such liberal policies. Nor do they know what it's like to live in a less restricted world, with law, but not an imperialistic gov't. Many minds have been contorted and I can't say that they are no in greater numbers than the wise.

                        I maintain that America can & will only put up with a limited amount of progressive foolishness.

                        It will come around to destroy itself like a snake eating itself by the tail. A belief that insanity is sane annihilates itself.

                        Reality wins, no matter what we want to believe.

                        ALWAYS.

                        Lies like this;

                        "If you think theres something wrong with people who want to amputate parts of their body, youre an ignorant xenophobe, biased in favor of oppressive Western culture and hung up on the outdated notion that there are just two genders. If you were more multiculturally enlightened, you would realize it is just your own prejudice and narrow frame of reference that is the real problem here."

                        erase & take care of themselves in a relatively short time.

                        Even though they will be endlessly repeated like a mantra for awhile. Some will even accept and beleive - people can be made to believe ANYTHING for awhile.
                        Still, reality & truth win.

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                        the Obama administration has made transgender rights which Vice President Joe Biden calls the civil rights issue of our time an urgent focus of its final months.

                        However, spurred on by reports of an 8-year-old girl being strangled unconscious by a 33-year-old man in a girls restroom Friday, Americans are pushing back. Obamas just-announced school edict mandating transgender bathrooms for the entire nations children is being met with fierce resistance. Target Corporations stock value plunged after more than a million Americans publicly pledged to boycott the store over its bathroom policy, and North Carolina is now suing the federal government for its bullying, overreaching attack on that states new bathroom law.

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                        Whether its the anorexic or transgender individual staring intently into the mirror and seeing the exact opposite of reality, or millions of others in similar straits tormented from within with myriad obsessions, compulsions, addictions, and delusions, our minds and emotions are very simply capable of lying to us, to the point of seriously disrupting our lives.

                        Take OCD, or obsessive-compulsive disorder, which currently afflicts one in 100 American adults (between 2 and 3 million), plus one in 200 children and teens (thats another 500,000), according to the National Institute of Mental Health.

                        Here, courtesy of the International OCD Foundation, is a vivid description of what obsessive-compulsive disorder feels like from the inside:

                        Imagine that your mind got stuck on a certain thought or image

                        Then this thought or image got replayed in your mind, over and over again, no matter what you did

                        You dont want these thoughts it feels like an avalanche

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                        How many Americans have problems like these, where their thinking and feeling (or whatever lurks behind their thinking and feeling) profoundly deceives them? Fasten your seat belt, because in addition to the 2-3 million with OCD, the National Institute of Mental Health reports that almost 14.8 million American adults have a major depressive disorder, 21 million have a mood disorder, 5.7 million suffer from bipolar disorder, 2.4 million have schizophrenia, 40 million have an anxiety disorder, 6 million have a panic disorder, 7.7 million are dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder, 6.8 million have generalized anxiety disorder, 15 million have a social phobia (fear of any situation where escape may be difficult, like traveling in a car, bus or airplane) and another 19 million have some type of specific phobia (marked, persistent fear and avoidance of a specific object or situation).


                        There are multitudes of phobias, from ablutophobia (fear of washing or bathing), to acarophobia (fear of itching or of the insects that cause itching), achluophobia (fear of darkness), acrophobia (fear of heights), aerophobia (fear of flying), aeronausiphobia (fear of vomiting secondary to airsickness), agateophobia (fear of insanity), agraphobia (fear of sexual abuse), agrizoophobia (fear of wild animals), algophobia (fear of pain), agoraphobia (fear of open spaces or crowds), agyrophobia (fear of streets or crossing the street), aichmophobia (fear of needles or pointed objects), amathophobia (fear of dust), amaxophobia (fear of riding in a car), androphobia (fear of men), anginophobia (fear of angina or choking), anthrophobia (fear of flowers), anthropophobia (fear of people or society), aphenphosmphobia (fear of being touched), apiphobia (fear of bees), apotemnophobia (fear of persons with amputations), arachnophobia (fear of spiders), arithmophobia (fear of numbers), arsonphobia (fear of fire), asthenophobia (fear of fainting or weakness), astraphobia (fear of thunder and lightning), ataxophobia (fear of disorder or untidiness), atelophobia (fear of imperfection), atychiphobia (fear of failure), automysophobia (fear of being dirty) and autophobia (fear of being alone or of oneself).

                        And those are just the As; B through Z spell out hundreds more! But what most if not all phobias have in common is a root in some traumatic experience that has generated a syndrome of unwanted, irrationally fearful thoughts and feelings.

                        By the way, the mental health statistics cited above, which appear to account for around half of Americans, dont even include attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD, one of the most common diagnoses in children and adolescents, or autism spectrum disorder, which now afflicts as many as one in 50 American kids, according to the CDC.

                        Makes you wonder: Is there anybody left who is not afflicted?

                        Amputation of healthy organs the new normal

                        Having made this quick survey, something very strange now comes into view.

                        All of these conditions, whatever their symptoms or level of severity, are named and described in the psychiatrists bible the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the most recent being the fifth edition (so-called DSM-5) and all are considered pathological (that is, relating to, or caused by, disease) and classified as disorders.

                        Well, all except one.

                        Ironically, one the most extreme of all of these conditions at least in terms of its preferred treatment, which often involves the amputation of healthy body parts, and whose sufferers have one of the highest suicide-attempt rates of any population on earth is for some reason in the process of being de-pathologized, that is, reclassified as normal.

                        Indeed, the recent renaming of gender identity disorder as gender dysphoria, thanks to pressure from the powerful LGBT lobby, means the condition itself is no longer considered abnormal or disordered at all, but only the anxiety one may feel over it anxiety LGBT apologists blame largely on public ignorance and intolerance.

                        Actually, this dysphoria business is a strategic half-measure; the unabashed, publicly stated goal of the LGBT world is to get gender identity disorder completely de-pathologized so it is officially and legally declared to be an absolutely normal variant of human sexuality. It is, after all, the T in the LGBT coalition, which represents itself as a minority community exactly like Blacks and Jews so, no room for mental illness in the mix.


                        Ironically, there is some criticism toward the latest edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual among mental health professionals, who claim the manual makes it too easy to diagnose people as disordered. For example, as one clinical psychologist wrote in Slate:

                        DSM-5 will change the criteria for generalized anxiety disorder, a disorder that involves excessive and persistent worrying. Whereas the criteria in DSM-4 required three out of six symptoms of worrying, only one symptom is needed in DSM-5.

                        How, then, when todays mental-health trend is to categorize more and more marginally problematic human behaviors as diagnosable disorders, does the mental/emotional state that craves having healthy body parts amputated in a pathetic and utterly impossible quest to change genders become magically transformed into something normal?

                        A report in the peer-reviewed journal Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry uses opaque academic lingo and tortured multicultural logic to rationalize why theres nothing at all wrong with people who want to cut off healthy breasts or genitalia in pursuit of gender transition:

                        As a diagnostic category, gender identity disorder remains problematic with ongoing debates concerning etiology, definition and ethics of treatment. Inherent in the current DSM definition is a Western model of the relationship between sex and gender which epitomizes the tension existing between essentialist and constructivist accounts of gender development. This model determines that gender-aberrant behavior and gender variation are, by definition, pathological, and reinforces a binary gender model. Studies of non-Western cultures reveal variations in models of gender and in the understanding of gender deviance. Cultures vary in their definition of gender roles and show varying degrees of tolerance for atypical gender behaviors and gender change. An understanding of cultural context is important in the clinical assessment of atypical gender development and challenges current models of sex and gender.

                        Translation: If you think theres something wrong with people who want to amputate parts of their body, youre an ignorant xenophobe, biased in favor of oppressive Western culture and hung up on the outdated notion that there are just two genders. If you were more multiculturally enlightened, you would realize it is just your own prejudice and narrow frame of reference that is the real problem here.

                        But back in the world of reality, transgenderism (or transsexualism) is not normal. In fact, its so abnormal and unnatural that a staggeringly tragic 41 percent of all transgender individuals living in the United States have attempted to commit suicide, according to a 2010 study.

                        Why has the American Psychiatric Association given in to activist pressure with regard to transsexuals?

                        For the same reason the same psychiatrist organization, coming under the same pressure, declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973, while its sister organization, the American Psychological Association, followed suit two years later.

                        Stunningly, the former president of the American Psychological Association indeed, the man who actually introduced the motion to declassify homosexuality as a mental illness in 1975 is now sounding the alarm. Dr. Nicholas Cummings says the psychologists organization has become dominated by ultraliberals under the thumb of the gay rights movement. Since the mid-1990s, warns Cummings, the groups positions have become based on political stances that seemed to override any scientific results, adding, Cherry-picking results became the mode. The gay rights movement sort of captured the APA.


                        http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/whats-rea...sgender-mania/

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                        • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                          As a point of reference here's a baptist pastor talking about what he's learned about transgender people:
                          https://baptistnews.com/2016/05/13/s...ender-persons/
                          Someone needs to ask this baptist pastor just what he thinks the nature and purpose of mortality and gender is if he thinks that God would set standards that don't apply to everyone.

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                          • Originally posted by Commodore View Post

                            Someone needs to ask this baptist pastor just what he thinks the nature and purpose of mortality and gender is if he thinks that God would set standards that don't apply to everyone.
                            Christians have already decided a whole lot of the Bible is full of standards that don't apply to everyone. Like the failing to invoke penalties for violating the 10 commandments, eating pork and shell fish and a whole lot of other things.

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                            • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post

                              Christians have already decided a whole lot of the Bible is full of standards that don't apply to everyone. Like the failing to invoke penalties for violating the 10 commandments, eating pork and shell fish and a whole lot of other things.

                              You seem to know little about Christians or the Bible.

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                              • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                                Christians have already decided a whole lot of the Bible is full of standards that don't apply to everyone. Like the failing to invoke penalties for violating the 10 commandments, eating pork and shell fish and a whole lot of other things.
                                There are specific things that where intended for specific time periods, as anyone who actually studies the text and the history is well aware. There are also specific things that are eternal, and if people think there are no penalties for violating them, they will be sorely disappointed one day. Though not nearly as sorely as their ecclesiastical leaders who failed to inform them of that.

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