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  • Originally posted by msc View Post
    Count the votes for Hillary Clinton: 12,989,134. people that don't see the insanity or accept it. And Bernie: 9,957,889 people who don't get it. And we're not done yet. A far cry from 300 Million +, but still, that's a hell of alot of people.

    Trump: 11,165,486 Cruz, Rubio, Kasich: = 14,705,256.

    22,947,023. confirmed nut jobs VS 24,870,742. other votes cast. Pretty darn close.
    We'll see how this election plays out in 8 or 9 months.


    ..... IF our Lord and Master obama LETS US HAVE an election !! Nothing this man does should surprise us.

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    • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      We'll see how this election plays out in 8 or 9 months.


      ..... IF our Lord and Master obama LETS US HAVE an election !! Nothing this man does should surprise us.
      Yet still, beyond logic, I know it's happening, I see it coming, and still I'm shocked that our constitution is no longer the law of the land. And it is not. We are no longer a country of law that is to be followed by every American citizen. Law's are being picked and chosen by a select political class. Laws that are subject to change depending on the rulers. Our gov't is NOT functioning as designed. Like it or not, we are no longer a constitutional America. We have already fallen. This past 7 years has been an outright defiance of our constitution and the Democratic supporters are voting for defiance of our constitution. We will see what happens in November, but I am bracing for the worst.

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      • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

        We'll see how this election plays out in 8 or 9 months.


        ..... IF our Lord and Master obama LETS US HAVE an election !! Nothing this man does should surprise us.
        What has Obama done to give you the Impression he doesn't intend to leave as every other president has at the end?

        Are all US conservatives as as universally negative and unwilling to see that maybe the way they see things may not be how the rest of the country does at the time as soon as they lose a few elections.
        It's like you sit in a corner and just sob that "All is lost" because the nation isn't ultra conservative enough for you and that anything but ultra conservatism will always somehow lead to complete ruin despite all the evidence to the contrary and all the evidence showing Conservative ideas failing just as much as any others.

        No wonder US politics is in the torrid state it is.
        Last edited by PeterUK75; 05-21-2016, 12:38 PM.

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        • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
          What has Obama done to give you the Impression he doesn't intend to leave as every other president has at the end?

          Are all US conservatives as as universally negative and unwilling to see that maybe the way they see things may not be how the rest of the country does at the time as soon as they lose a few elections.
          It's like you sit in a corner and just sob that "All is lost" because the nation isn't ultra conservative enough for you and that anything but ultra conservatism will always somehow lead to complete ruin despite all the evidence to the contrary and all the evidence showing Conservative ideas failing just as much as any others.

          No wonder US politics is in the torrid state it is.
          He has consistently made a mockery of the position. He's consistently used, abused - made many legally questionable policies, statements and "orders" or "decrees."

          His opinion of the American people is clear, as is his opinion of America.

          He has proven that he can never be trusted & only rarely will tell OR tolerate the truth. Hilary is a perfect replacement for him if he does decide to legally & honorably step down when he is supposed to.

          "What has Obama done to give [me] the Impression he doesn't intend to leave as every other president has at the end?"

          He has never once acted like an honest & honorable man. Which handily explains why he/it? might take such interest in such bizarre issues as "transgender" potty policies, "gay marriage" etc.

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          • Originally posted by msc View Post
            Yet still, beyond logic, I know it's happening, I see it coming, and still I'm shocked that our constitution is no longer the law of the land. And it is not. We are no longer a country of law that is to be followed by every American citizen. Law's are being picked and chosen by a select political class. Laws that are subject to change depending on the rulers. Our gov't is NOT functioning as designed. Like it or not, we are no longer a constitutional America. We have already fallen. This past 7 years has been an outright defiance of our constitution and the Democratic supporters are voting for defiance of our constitution. We will see what happens in November, but I am bracing for the worst.

            What is being done to America the people have and will allow.

            Or they won't. We will see.

            But, you're right that we have allowed our founding documents to become devoid of any meaning or usefulness - to the criminals that currently "rule."

            They are no different than us, their days are numbered. Our founding documents still do have meaning to many of us . . . and to many people in coming generations.

            Lawlessness won't survive very long.


            Where there is no law, there is no liberty; and nothing deserves the name of law but that which is certain and universal in its operation upon all the members of the community. - Benjamin Rush, 1788

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            • I think the main problem you have is you seem to think conservatism is the only path that's viable for the US and that's simply untrue.
              As with everything compromise is king and neither an ultra conservative or ultra liberal future is good for the US but you seem unable to grasp that fact.
              That you think the US is now liberal shows just how ultra conservative you are as the US is a conservative nation and always has been.
              Trying to claim you have some sort of historical lock on how the US should be is also a fools game as nations change over time and culture changes you just have to accept that or end up waving your fist at clouds looking like a madman.

              The US did many things in the past it doesn't do now and people just get on with it the lgbt debate is no different and you either accept it or you'll end up like those crazy old people in homes who are openly racist and try and claim it's fine as racism was ok back in the day.

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              • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                I think the main problem you have is you seem to think conservatism is the only path that's viable for the US and that's simply untrue.
                As with everything compromise is king and neither an ultra conservative or ultra liberal future is good for the US but you seem unable to grasp that fact.
                That you think the US is now liberal shows just how ultra conservative you are as the US is a conservative nation and always has been.
                Trying to claim you have some sort of historical lock on how the US should be is also a fools game as nations change over time and culture changes you just have to accept that or end up waving your fist at clouds looking like a madman.

                The US did many things in the past it doesn't do now and people just get on with it the lgbt debate is no different and you either accept it or you'll end up like those crazy old people in homes who are openly racist and try and claim it's fine as racism was ok back in the day.
                This isn't about 'conservative' or 'liberal,' it's about objective truth & common sense. It's about whether or not we believe we should reject reality and truth for the "feelings" of a few people with mental problems.

                It's about how sensible it is for an entire society of people to bend over backwards to accomodate a few mentally ill individuals in ways that put vulnerable children and women in danger, while ALSO pushing the idea that these mental cases are perfectly "normal."

                That it tends to be liberals that like to push these unrealistic & untruthful ideas:

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                why are liberalism's pet issues the lodestars of what constitutes scientific fact? Medical science informs us fetuses are human beings. The liberal response? "Who cares?" Genetically modified foods are safe, sayeth the scientists. "Shut up," reply the liberal activists. IQ is partly heritable, the neuroscientists tell us. "Shut up, bigot," the liberals shriek.

                Which brings me to the raging hysteria over the plight of transgendered people who need to use the bathroom.

                The New York Times recently reported about A.J. Jackson's travails in a Vermont high school. "There were practical issues," Anemona Hartocollis writes. "When he had his period, he wondered if he should revert to the girls' bathroom, because there was no place to throw away his used tampons."

                Now, one can have sympathy for the transgendered — I certainly do — while simultaneously holding to the scientific fact that boys do not menstruate. This is a fact far more settled than the very best climate science.

                Perhaps it's rude to say so, but facts do not cease to be facts simply because they offend.

                Many liberals believe that "denying" climate science should be a criminal offense while also believing that denying biological science is a moral obligation. In the law, truth is a defense against the charge of slander, but for liberals, inconvenient truth is no defense against the charge of bigotry
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                http://www.newsmax.com/JonahGoldberg.../20/id/729866/

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                Illustrates for us how easily people can be sold bad ideas - based, not on truth, science or objective reality - but on 'feelings.'

                This phenomenon isn't a 'conservative' or 'liberal' idea. It's something that occurs with ALL people.

                That liberals are on the wrong side of reality, science and truth on this issue is what is at issue.

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                • The fact that you honestly believe that and are completely unwilling to accept even the slightest doubt that you may be wrong is why conservatism in the US is a global laughing stock.

                  You really have no intention of debate on the lgbt issue and calling them mentally ill and degenerate is not helping your cause.

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                  • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                    This isn't about 'conservative' or 'liberal,' it's about objective truth & common sense. It's about whether or not we believe we should reject reality and truth for the "feelings" of a few people with mental problems.

                    It's about how sensible it is for an entire society of people to bend over backwards to accomodate a few mentally ill individuals in ways that put vulnerable children and women in danger, while ALSO pushing the idea that these mental cases are perfectly "normal."

                    That it tends to be liberals that like to push these unrealistic & untruthful ideas:

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                    why are liberalism's pet issues the lodestars of what constitutes scientific fact? Medical science informs us fetuses are human beings. The liberal response? "Who cares?" Genetically modified foods are safe, sayeth the scientists. "Shut up," reply the liberal activists. IQ is partly heritable, the neuroscientists tell us. "Shut up, bigot," the liberals shriek.

                    Which brings me to the raging hysteria over the plight of transgendered people who need to use the bathroom.

                    The New York Times recently reported about A.J. Jackson's travails in a Vermont high school. "There were practical issues," Anemona Hartocollis writes. "When he had his period, he wondered if he should revert to the girls' bathroom, because there was no place to throw away his used tampons."

                    Now, one can have sympathy for the transgendered — I certainly do — while simultaneously holding to the scientific fact that boys do not menstruate. This is a fact far more settled than the very best climate science.

                    Perhaps it's rude to say so, but facts do not cease to be facts simply because they offend.

                    Many liberals believe that "denying" climate science should be a criminal offense while also believing that denying biological science is a moral obligation. In the law, truth is a defense against the charge of slander, but for liberals, inconvenient truth is no defense against the charge of bigotry
                    .

                    http://www.newsmax.com/JonahGoldberg.../20/id/729866/

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                    Illustrates for us how easily people can be sold bad ideas - based, not on truth, science or objective reality - but on 'feelings.'

                    This phenomenon isn't a 'conservative' or 'liberal' idea. It's something that occurs with ALL people.

                    That liberals are on the wrong side of reality, science and truth on this issue is what is at issue.
                    2 Tim 4:3

                    3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

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                    • Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                      The fact that you honestly believe that and are completely unwilling to accept even the slightest doubt that you may be wrong is why conservatism in the US is a global laughing stock.

                      You really have no intention of debate on the lgbt issue and calling them mentally ill and degenerate is not helping your cause.
                      And to you. What if we are really right?

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                      • Anyone thinks Obama isn't leaving the oval office on schedule is either drunk or doesn't have their head bolted on right. Leftie loons said the same nonsense about Bush as well. It speaks volumes about the quality of their opinions.

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                        • Originally posted by JDJarvis View Post
                          Anyone thinks Obama isn't leaving the oval office on schedule is either drunk or doesn't have their head bolted on right. Leftie loons said the same nonsense about Bush as well. It speaks volumes about the quality of their opinions.
                          I think Obama wants out of there as soon as possible and so does his wife.

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                          • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                            I think Obama wants out of there as soon as possible and so does his wife.
                            I find that more believable. The Obama's are going to make a killing on books and the speech circuit.

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                            • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                              I think Obama wants out of there as soon as possible and so does his wife.
                              There's just no telling what this oddball obama fellow is going to do. Maybe he can't wait to get the hell outta there . . maybe not, who can really know ?

                              Back to the words liberals use to convince people to accept foolish ideas. Liberals who use words like "hate" are the most guilty of this word they so love to accuse others of. They argue endlessly about "protecting women" when truth is, they HATE women !

                              Liberal hatred is a clear & present danger for women.

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                              “There are logical fixes if these clueless men are determined to go down this road,” May concluded. “[B]ut to argue it in terms of ‘protecting’ the privacy of one class of people — while destroying it for others — is just another line item on the Left's long list of ways to destroy our culture … and dehumanize women.”

                              “Women have lost all power in this society and we can thank the Democrats, the liberals, the feminists, and men who think women are nothing more than brood mares and have convinced them to kill their own babies in the name of privacy, but won't give that woman privacy in the bathroom,” May argues. “We need another women's movement in America where they regain the rights the radical feminists have squandered through the years by trying so hard to make women like men. They have lost their dignity and humanity and have allowed themselves to be intimidated and manipulated by a social engineering plan designed to eradicate the distinctions between men and women.”

                              liberal politicians are more intent on forwarding social experiments through their political agendas than they are in protecting the citizens they took an oath to protect.

                              “So, the government — instead of protecting a woman's privacy and right to choose to [urinate] in private — has thrown them to the dogs,” May added. “They have locked them in a room where they are helpless prey and told them they are evil if they oppose this procedure. So much for women's rights. But it is a perfect storm for a nationwide ‘Girlcott’ of these establishments.”

                              ...those pulling the strings for the bathroom bills are — in actuality — exploiting the gender-confused.

                              “I can't believe liberals and Democrats can be so heartless, so cruel, so discriminating against transgendered individuals,” May expressed. “It is just amazing to me that Barack Obama and Hillary can look at themselves in the mirror realizing the trauma they are going to visit upon these poor helpless people — just shocking.”

                              Another allegedly deceptive tactic employed by progressives to rally in the votes was then addressed — as well as the problematic ramifications of embracing new social rules and regulations.

                              “[B]eyond the fact that the Left is forcing all transgendered people to fly their flags for the world to see, you have the issue of all the nut cases coming out, pretending to ‘self-identify’ for a few minutes so they can be alone with a woman when she is totally vulnerable,” May points out. “Or what has already been reported is that they are in the adjoining stall filming her privacy … which again, the Supreme Court said the government has an obligation to protect.”

                              “But you can be sure, if they put urinals in the women's bathroom and a guy, dressed as a woman, is standing there doing his business … the world will know,” the social conservative insisted. “That seems a little insensitive to me. It's as though the government is trying to create a situation where transgendered people are humiliated and stigmatized and the only way to force them ‘out’ is to see how they [urinate], and what they [urinate] with.”

                              “The most obvious and apparent inconsistency, in this new dictate from on high, is that it is a direct contradiction of the finding in Roe. vs. Wade, which was all about a woman's right to privacy and the fact that the government could not tell a woman what to do with her body,” May argued. “But now, that same government is taking away the most private aspect of a woman's life, and that is her bathroom habits.”

                              “I really was trying to avoid writing about this because the Left has such a sick agenda on all things ‘women,’" Nina May wrote in a post published on Newsone. “I think it is going to be up to each woman to do her own personal ‘Girlcott’ of businesses who fall for this demeaning, unnecessary, unproductive and stupid idea of allowing men in the women's restrooms.”

                              “The only reasonable explanation is that men feel they are superior to women and will not be happy until all aspects and characteristics of women are melded into those of a man, eradicating women all together,” she reasoned. “The clueless feminists are empowering this genocide that is creating a totally male-dominated society, like many countries where women have no rights at all. There, women are just objects to breed the next generation of boorish men who are clueless about what a real woman is, and you can be sure, she doesn't have [male genitalia].”


                              http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/20...r-the-bathroom

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