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Transgender ... or horny high school kid?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

    Because the stimulated penis or clitoris is the God they worship. An idol for sure - don't try to tell THEM that.

    It's always motivated by an attempt to get rid of God and replace Him with . . ANOTHER God. They'll call their God other things, but those are the God(s) they worship. Their Gods are sex, themselves, "the govt.," "The UNGod (abscence of God .. yes, they worship that. Don't believe me ? Try to tell them God IS)," .. even Satan the devil ! ... many things they worship.



    That is where this insanity leads us. But as you say; "I doubt they would accept that, so they must draw an acceptable arbitrary line that appeals to them."

    Still, that line IS arbitrary and can always be pushed and tested and eventually moved. Fifty years ago, would anyone have believed you if you'd have told them that in 2015 "queers can get married in 2015" ? Of course not, they'd have called you a freak.

    Just like we'd call anyone a freak who suggested that in 50 years you'll be able to marry your sister, mother or a girl 13 or older. Or a young boy or your dad or .. whatever !

    Humans are, by nature religious. Yet we "want to have our own way" too. As time goes on, we find that we can ignore Gods message and "have our own way." .. and every time it leads to destruction.

    It is as if we become like adolescents again. We rebel, reality disciplines us, we behave for awhile, we rebel... again and again ....
    Yeah, and I just to not think we should encourage these people who are obviously mentally disconnected, like transgenders.

    I remember a story I heard when I was a kid, one sunday, when the family got together to eat and to spend the day together. My dad, grandpa and uncles would always tell stories of funny times when they were growing up in the depression era south. It was a big deal for them to come up with the 10 cents it took to go to the movies. I remember them telling a funny story about the time uncle E.B. dressed up as a girl, with my teenage mom putting rouge and stuff on his face, and some woman's hat to cover his lack of long hair, and they went like this 5 uncles and the lone girl, my mom to the flicks. Of course they were rolling on the floor telling about some dumb country boys hitting on my uncle and they all had a great time, and the joke was on the dumb country boys who made the mistake. But remember, transgenders were not even known to exist here at that time. It was all in good fun. And I can recall well, in the 50s, that every year at school we had a group of football players dress up for a female beauty contest, all in good fun and to raise money for the school. Again, transgenders did not exist here at that time. BOY has times changed!! And we no longer dress the football players up as girls these days. For it is no longer a joke, I guess.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Chloe View Post

      No that is the whole point ; some pervert may decide to use the opposite gender's bathroom instead, as he / she now has the ability to do so without retribution.



      Pretty sure Good1 started this thread, to talk about this issue. You don't like it, feel free to leave or start some thread on the budget.

      Btw this is the entirety of the slippery slope argument ; gays then transgender / sexual people and wham, you have boys changing in the girl's locker room.

      I am sharing my view on this issue. My view is that it is a distraction. As a hard nosed liberal I can tell you I couldn't care less about it. It was like I woke up one morning and every news network was talking about it. No one at my work cares, none of my friends care, none of my family cares. Trans-gendered or transsexual people make up about 1% of the population if that. They are fairly evenly distributed since they are born that way and it's not some fashion statement. There's probably one or two in your community. Rather than pass laws specifically for these one or two people, how about society itself just relaxes a bit and practices that thing some guy told us about, love thy neighbor. We are our brother's keeper. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

      As for what bathroom they choose, I couldn't care less. If someone feels uncomfortable from someone else looking at them or in the same vicinity alert the owners of that building. End of discussion in my opinion.

      It's like buffer zones for men at urinals. I would love a buffer zone. I hate having to pee next to some dude who gives his Johnson three and a half shakes and spits too just for the hell of it. But I don't lose sleep over it. I don't call for legislation governing the proximity of one dude to another at a urinal. This whole thing is a distraction and a way to whip up support for a particular base who likes to think there is a war against them being waged by the crazy loons on the other side.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by .3dontVoteParty View Post
        I am sharing my view on this issue. My view is that it is a distraction. As a hard nosed liberal I can tell you I couldn't care less about it. It was like I woke up one morning and every news network was talking about it. No one at my work cares, none of my friends care, none of my family cares. Trans-gendered or transsexual people make up about 1% of the population if that. They are fairly evenly distributed since they are born that way and it's not some fashion statement. There's probably one or two in your community. Rather than pass laws specifically for these one or two people, how about society itself just relaxes a bit and practices that thing some guy told us about, love thy neighbor. We are our brother's keeper. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

        As for what bathroom they choose, I couldn't care less. If someone feels uncomfortable from someone else looking at them or in the same vicinity alert the owners of that building. End of discussion in my opinion.

        It's like buffer zones for men at urinals. I would love a buffer zone. I hate having to pee next to some dude who gives his Johnson three and a half shakes and spits too just for the hell of it. But I don't lose sleep over it. I don't call for legislation governing the proximity of one dude to another at a urinal. This whole thing is a distraction and a way to whip up support for a particular base who likes to think there is a war against them being waged by the crazy loons on the other side.
        That's certainly one way to look at this 'issue.' Personally I can accept it, but I'm a 48 yr old man that's seen almost everything.

        At the same time, you can surely understand the effects of telling people;

        "It's ok for you to use whatever restroom or locker-room you feel like, depending on your emotions about it and your feelings about your gender on any given day."

        It is going to cause trouble.

        We ARE sexual beings and there are ALWAYS perverts and weirdo's of either sex.. plenty of them too .. . who are creating and seeing opportunities all over the place because of our "new acceptance" of these kinds of issues with regard to sex and gender.

        I'm of the opinion that only fools can honestly think that encouraging and allowing things like this will not create problems.

        BIG problems.

        Try this out;

        Imagine that you have a very young - say 12 or 13 - and pretty daughter. She goes into a public locker room at a gym somewhere (you happen to be sitting in the waiting area for her to go shower & change after some activity with her friends). Here come two weird looking creatures with beards, but wearing dresses and carrying purses - ear-rings, make-up .. all of it, except they're obviously men). They go into the same locker room where your daughter is ... because they happen to "feel like they are women trapped in mens bodies."

        That wouldn't concern you a little ?

        Two big, weird men going into the same shower/dressing area your daughter is probably going to be naked. . and they will possibly get naked to.

        Sound good ? Bad ?

        This will not be an uncommon occurrence if we continue going where we're going.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

          That's certainly one way to look at this 'issue.' Personally I can accept it, but I'm a 48 yr old man that's seen almost everything.

          At the same time, you can surely understand the effects of telling people;

          "It's ok for you to use whatever restroom or locker-room you feel like, depending on your emotions about it and your feelings about your gender on any given day."

          It is going to cause trouble.

          We ARE sexual beings and there are ALWAYS perverts and weirdo's of either sex.. plenty of them too .. . who are creating and seeing opportunities all over the place because of our "new acceptance" of these kinds of issues with regard to sex and gender.

          I'm of the opinion that only fools can honestly think that encouraging and allowing things like this will not create problems.

          BIG problems.

          Try this out;

          Imagine that you have a very young - say 12 or 13 - and pretty daughter. She goes into a public locker room at a gym somewhere (you happen to be sitting in the waiting area for her to go shower & change after some activity with her friends). Here come two weird looking creatures with beards, but wearing dresses and carrying purses - ear-rings, make-up .. all of it, except they're obviously men). They go into the same locker room where your daughter is ... because they happen to "feel like they are women trapped in mens bodies."

          That wouldn't concern you a little ?

          Two big, weird men going into the same shower/dressing area your daughter is probably going to be naked. . and they will possibly get naked to.

          Sound good ? Bad ?

          This will not be an uncommon occurrence if we continue going where we're going.
          She's already getting naked with girls, many of whom are probably lesbians who don't shave, so what's the big deal?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Slon View Post

            She's already getting naked with girls, many of whom are probably lesbians who don't shave, so what's the big deal?
            No big deal to me.

            But the girl isn't my daughter in there either. If her dads Ok with that, it's not my concern.

            ... I have a strange feeling 'dad' isn't going to be comfortable with it though.



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            • #36
              Originally posted by Slon View Post

              She's already getting naked with girls, many of whom are probably lesbians who don't shave, so what's the big deal?
              This is a moronic statement, Slon: First, statistically, only 3% of the American population is gay and, presumably, Lesbians make up only a portion of that 3%: So, "many of whom ... are probably lesbians..." is inaccurate. Second, your ASSumption that lesbians don't shave is derogatory and insulting to lesbians. And, finally, the big deal is with this rule, any HS boy can get his ya-yas out by claiming to be a girl trapped in a boys body: He can then march into the girls locker room and take a shower with all the naked little girls.

              You might well be O.K. with that. I, along with thousands of reasoned, emotionally mature adults, am not.

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              • #37
                I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Good1 View Post

                  This is a moronic statement, Slon: First, statistically, only 3% of the American population is gay and, presumably, Lesbians make up only a portion of that 3%: So, "many of whom ... are probably lesbians..." is inaccurate.
                  No, it's not incorrect. "Many" does not mean "more than 3%."

                  Second, your ASSumption that lesbians don't shave is derogatory and insulting to lesbians.
                  I didn't assume lesbians (if you mean all) don't shave, I simply referred to lesbians who do not shave (this being a portion of lesbians).

                  And, finally, the big deal is with this rule, any HS boy can get his ya-yas out by claiming to be a girl trapped in a boys body: He can then march into the girls locker room and take a shower with all the naked little girls.

                  You might well be O.K. with that. I, along with thousands of reasoned, emotionally mature adults, am not.
                  What's the big deal about a coed shower?

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                  • #39
                    Pretending to be foolish or ignorant or blind . . . it can be an effective tool sometimes.

                    Used very carefully.

                    If one isn't very careful, one becomes what he thought he was only pretending to be.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                      Pretending to be foolish or ignorant or blind . . . it can be an effective tool sometimes.

                      Used very carefully.

                      If one isn't very careful, one becomes what he thought he was only pretending to be.
                      You mean like the liar who starts to believe his own lies? LOL.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                        You mean like the liar who starts to believe his own lies? LOL.
                        That's what often happens. .

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Slon View Post
                          No, it's not incorrect. &quot;Many&quot; does not mean &quot;more than 3%.
                          Then you might not understand the meaning of the word as you used it.
                          What's the big deal about a coed shower?
                          To me, nothing. But I'm not an emotionally immature high school student. It will say a lot about your character (or lack thereof) if I have to explain to you why it is inappropriate for children.

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                          • #43
                            It just seems to me, that when a society begins to celebrate aberrations, queer behavior, it is a sign of disintegration. When we blur the line between sane behavior and insane behavior, it can only sink down to something far from healthy. It seems that once a society travels here, it is a sure sign of coming apart, for lines have become meaningless, and I think lines are necessary for civilization and this quaint term we call culture. Culture in the sense that one is 'cultured'. Right and wrong is said by some to be relative, but a human society requires a clear definition of right ad wrong, and it has to be coherent with the natural world, outside of man.

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                            • #44

                              Celebs punishing conservatives: Bryan Adams does shows in Egypt, but cancels Mississippi

                              Canadian rock star Bryan Adams joined New Jersey’s Bruce Springsteen in the fight for what they perceive to be social justice by canceling a Mississippi concert due to the state’s new law stopping men who think they are women from using women’s facilities.
                              “I cannot in good conscience perform in a State where certain people are being denied their civil rights due to their sexual orientation. Therefore I’m canceling my 14 April show at the Mississippi Coast Coliseum,” he wrote on Instagram.

                              Just days ago, Springsteen cancelled a concert in North Carolina over its law banning men from accessing women’s bathrooms.

                              This coming from the same Bryan Adams who recently tweeted about a concert he gave in Egypt, a nation which sentenced two men to three years in jail for getting married to each other in 2015.
                              Nor did he have any issue performing in a host of Middle Eastern nations where gays are abused and have virtually no rights.

                              http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/04/...throoms-327770

                              Hmmm, anyone want to take a shot at explaining the nobility of these entertainers that protest in NC and MS because of a biological, male/female, bathroom division, while delivering their services to places that prosecute and kill people because of their sexual orientation?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                                It just seems to me, that when a society begins to celebrate aberrations, queer behavior, it is a sign of disintegration. When we blur the line between sane behavior and insane behavior, it can only sink down to something far from healthy. It seems that once a society travels here, it is a sure sign of coming apart, for lines have become meaningless, and I think lines are necessary for civilization and this quaint term we call culture. Culture in the sense that one is 'cultured'. Right and wrong is said by some to be relative, but a human society requires a clear definition of right ad wrong, and it has to be coherent with the natural world, outside of man.

                                Bigot.

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