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  • Originally posted by radcentr View Post
    We agree on that. If it weren't for the occasional conviction of a Congress critter, the citizen would have every reason to believe that election to federal office gives a person impunity, whether the law in question were well planned.

    A true Republic would convict and jail even the highest official if it were indicated. The US has failed on that count (take your pick: Nixon or Clinton). We need to get our act together.
    That's for certain.

    It's what happens when powerful people are allowed to award themselves a pass for crimes any of us would be made famous for - and rot in jail for.

    It's a sad state we're in.

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    • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

      That's for certain.

      It's what happens when powerful people are allowed to award themselves a pass for crimes any of us would be made famous for - and rot in jail for.

      It's a sad state we're in.
      This will all go away once the dictatorship is on more secure footing. I saw in the paper today that Trump taken another step in that direction by threatening to cancel the daily press briefing. Just look how well Russia is doing without a free press.

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      • Originally posted by redrover View Post

        This will all go away once the dictatorship is on more secure footing. I saw in the paper today that Trump taken another step in that direction by threatening to cancel the daily press briefing. Just look how well Russia is doing without a free press.
        Why have a press briefing when they just go out and make up stories?

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        • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

          Why have a press briefing when they just go out and make up stories?
          Yeah I hate the way they bring cameras into the briefings so there is no to verify the truth being spoken. Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes and ears?

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          • Originally posted by redrover View Post
            Yeah I hate the way they bring cameras into the briefings so there is no to verify the truth being spoken. Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes and ears?
            ... assuming there will BE any briefings LOL

            Even with cameras and easily verified footage, the media creates alternate realities, events and statements that never transpired .. why have a briefing if it's just going to be made ridiculous theater of and lied about ?

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            • Our self hatred is only a weird form of bigotry against OURSELVES !

              It's bizarre. We're allowing, no encouraging ourselves to be over-run by a people who will destroy us. They will destroy and annihilate us quickly.

              Or..

              They will destroy and annihilate us slowly.

              But, no matter which they AND WE decide, WE will be destroyed !

              By our own stupidity . . . LIBERALISM.

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              ...rampant immigration without assimilation qualifies as an invasion. He wonders when Americans will finally stand up and resist the invasion.

              These are the worst of the worst, he declared. These are the people that really are serious about spreading Islam, and theyre using our visa system and the ignorant, nave American kafir to come in here and spread it.

              ...roughly 80 percent of American mosques are funded at least partially by Saudi Arabia, home of the radical Wahhabi strain of Islam.

              These are not just your average imams, Hohmann warned. Theyre the ones wanting to come into the belly of the beast, so to speak, the infidels territory, and spread their form of Salafist, often Wahhabist Islam, and its a real problem. We need to clean up this visa system.

              ...the bigger problem is the long-term threat of civilization jihad, in which Muslims take advantage of the liberal U.S. immigration system to settle in America and build up a parallel society within a society.

              There are many types of visas they can and do exploit to enter the country: religious worker visas, fianc visas, other family-based visas, entrepreneur visas, student visas and many more. Hohmann said there is little to no vetting in many of these visa programs. At some point, the numbers of immigrants start to add up.

              To me, the bigger problem is if this continues to build like this, before long we see this happening in Europe already the numbers get to a sort of critical mass where the danger increases exponentially, he warned. And what I mean by that is not just of violence or violent jihad, but civilizational jihad where you see more and more demands coming from the Muslim population on the non-Muslim population. Weve already seen the first dribblings of it here in the United States. They come here and it seems like I call them in my book super-citizens because it seems like they get more rights and privileges than regular citizens.

              Inherent in that term [integration] is a subtle twisting of what we expect of our immigrants, he explained. When we asked them to assimilate, they had to adapt to our culture, but when we integrate them, we flip it around, and we place the burden on the host society, us, to accommodate the immigrant. Its flipped around. We no longer expect them to adopt our ways; we adopt their ways and their culture, and thats why you see schools, universities, police departments bending over backwards to accommodate these Muslim immigrants.

              At what point do we become willing to defend our way of life and our culture against this other competing system that weve invited in? he asked. These people are here at the invitation of the U.S. government. Its legal immigration. But at what point do we say these folks really dont value what we value?

              Hohmann believes its important to not only resist Islamic culture, but to preserve Americas Christian culture, which he thinks is the best bulwark against Islam.

              In my opinion, societies are going to have some sort of religion, and if its atheism and hatred for Christianity, then youre just opening the door for Islam, and thats what we saw happen in Europe, he cautioned.

              Hohmann knows its unpopular, even among some conservatives, to oppose unfettered legal immigration. But he encourages all concerned Americans to persevere no matter what insults the critics may hurl their way.

              We have to expect to be called names, he said. We cant be afraid of name-calling. They will call you these vicious names because thats really all they have. They dont want to debate the facts. So I would just suggest that we remain vocal, remain unafraid,
              because if were afraid then we have already granted them the victory because thats what they want. They want us to be afraid and they want us to shut up.


              http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/americas-...housand-visas/

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              • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
                Our self hatred is only a weird form of bigotry against OURSELVES !

                It's bizarre. We're allowing, no encouraging ourselves to be over-run by a people who will destroy us. They will destroy and annihilate us quickly.

                Or..

                They will destroy and annihilate us slowly.

                But, no matter which they AND WE decide, WE will be destroyed !

                By our own stupidity . . . LIBERALISM.

                -----------------------------------

                ...rampant immigration without assimilation qualifies as an invasion. He wonders when Americans will finally stand up and resist the invasion.

                These are the worst of the worst, he declared. These are the people that really are serious about spreading Islam, and theyre using our visa system and the ignorant, nave American kafir to come in here and spread it.

                ...roughly 80 percent of American mosques are funded at least partially by Saudi Arabia, home of the radical Wahhabi strain of Islam.

                These are not just your average imams, Hohmann warned. Theyre the ones wanting to come into the belly of the beast, so to speak, the infidels territory, and spread their form of Salafist, often Wahhabist Islam, and its a real problem. We need to clean up this visa system.

                ...the bigger problem is the long-term threat of civilization jihad, in which Muslims take advantage of the liberal U.S. immigration system to settle in America and build up a parallel society within a society.

                There are many types of visas they can and do exploit to enter the country: religious worker visas, fianc visas, other family-based visas, entrepreneur visas, student visas and many more. Hohmann said there is little to no vetting in many of these visa programs. At some point, the numbers of immigrants start to add up.

                To me, the bigger problem is if this continues to build like this, before long we see this happening in Europe already the numbers get to a sort of critical mass where the danger increases exponentially, he warned. And what I mean by that is not just of violence or violent jihad, but civilizational jihad where you see more and more demands coming from the Muslim population on the non-Muslim population. Weve already seen the first dribblings of it here in the United States. They come here and it seems like I call them in my book super-citizens because it seems like they get more rights and privileges than regular citizens.

                Inherent in that term [integration] is a subtle twisting of what we expect of our immigrants, he explained. When we asked them to assimilate, they had to adapt to our culture, but when we integrate them, we flip it around, and we place the burden on the host society, us, to accommodate the immigrant. Its flipped around. We no longer expect them to adopt our ways; we adopt their ways and their culture, and thats why you see schools, universities, police departments bending over backwards to accommodate these Muslim immigrants.

                At what point do we become willing to defend our way of life and our culture against this other competing system that weve invited in? he asked. These people are here at the invitation of the U.S. government. Its legal immigration. But at what point do we say these folks really dont value what we value?

                Hohmann believes its important to not only resist Islamic culture, but to preserve Americas Christian culture, which he thinks is the best bulwark against Islam.

                In my opinion, societies are going to have some sort of religion, and if its atheism and hatred for Christianity, then youre just opening the door for Islam, and thats what we saw happen in Europe, he cautioned.

                Hohmann knows its unpopular, even among some conservatives, to oppose unfettered legal immigration. But he encourages all concerned Americans to persevere no matter what insults the critics may hurl their way.

                We have to expect to be called names, he said. We cant be afraid of name-calling. They will call you these vicious names because thats really all they have. They dont want to debate the facts. So I would just suggest that we remain vocal, remain unafraid,
                because if were afraid then we have already granted them the victory because thats what they want. They want us to be afraid and they want us to shut up.


                http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/americas-...housand-visas/
                Very funny. Telling people not to fear when fear has been all republicans have preached since 2001. Only I can make America safe again. Be afraid of every person not egg shell white. Mexicans are mostly murderers and rapists fear them their skin tone is very Muslim. Don't be afraid of name calling but be afraid of everything else especially be afraid of having your guns taken away and having your rest room defiled. Fear is all you have to offer.

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                • Originally posted by redrover View Post

                  Very funny. Telling people not to fear when fear has been all republicans have preached since 2001. Only I can make America safe again. Be afraid of every person not egg shell white. Mexicans are mostly murderers and rapists fear them their skin tone is very Muslim. Don't be afraid of name calling but be afraid of everything else especially be afraid of having your guns taken away and having your rest room defiled. Fear is all you have to offer.
                  Tell that to the people in Baltimore who just asked the feds for help with their crime problem.

                  http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/26/politi...elp/index.html

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                  • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                    Tell that to the people in Baltimore who just asked the feds for help with their crime problem.

                    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/26/politi...elp/index.html
                    Exactly that fits your mantra perfectly be afraid America is this hellish snake pit of evil. Fear Fear. Give me an F give me an e give me an a give me and r. What do you have the reason you must support republicans.

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                    • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                      Very funny. Telling people not to fear when fear has been all republicans have preached since 2001. Only I can make America safe again. Be afraid of every person not egg shell white. Mexicans are mostly murderers and rapists fear them their skin tone is very Muslim. Don't be afraid of name calling but be afraid of everything else especially be afraid of having your guns taken away and having your rest room defiled. Fear is all you have to offer.
                      Originally posted by redrover View Post
                      Exactly that fits your mantra perfectly be afraid America is this hellish snake pit of evil. Fear Fear. Give me an F give me an e give me an a give me and r. What do you have the reason you must support republicans.
                      Is all you peddle is fear LOL .. as you accuse everyone else of it -laughs-

                      That you must mis-state and lie about things to make your pointless points, is always entertaining.

                      What's not so entertaining are the people doing such things that "teach" college students. That these sick individuals are in positions of authority, so will be paid attention to, is disgusting. The idiots in the media we can ignore ....

                      ....like you, all they shovel is crap.

                      Of course it is THEY that use fear to base their crap on... as they, like you - accuse others of "fearmongering" ... as is said below, your and their tactics are; "... self-refuting at every turn."

                      But this crap from "college" is coming home to us. Once, we went to college to get an education.

                      NOW we go to college to be taught what to think, instead of learning facts and HOW to think... and we wonder why colleges are producing a generation of self important idiots ?

                      Wonder no more.

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                      The classical liberal is someone who stands for freedom, for liberty and for liberation. What we see today within the American academy is the shutting down of ideas. We see ideological fascism rather than academic freedom, Piper said.

                      The conservative voice is actually more classically liberal because were arguing for an open, robust exchange of ideas. Why? Because we can trust truth to judge the debate rather than politics or power.

                      ...the problem has been brewing for many decades as ideology has become more important than truth.

                      Weve taught lousy ideas for decades in the academy, and were seeing lousy behavior on the campus green and in the campus quad today. These student rebellions, these snowflake rebellions, trigger warnings, microaggressions and safe spaces are being called for because weve taught these kids this intellectual mush and this ideological narcissism and nihilism,

                      ..We hear people say things like, I hate these hateful people. Im sure that nothings sure. Im absolutely confident there are no absolutes, and I cant tolerate your intolerance. Its self-refuting at every turn. The reason we see this is because we started teaching this type of nihilism and intellectual relativism and intellectual mush some three, four, five decades ago.

                      When you teach good ideas, you get good culture, good kids, good community, good government, good church, etc. When you teach bad ideas, you get the opposite,

                      ...Moms and dads, stop sending your kids to these institutions that teach this pablum, and send them to places that teach whats actually objectively right and real and true and good,"


                      http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/meet-coll...ke-rebellions/

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                      • Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post



                        Is all you peddle is fear LOL .. as you accuse everyone else of it -laughs-

                        That you must mis-state and lie about things to make your pointless points, is always entertaining.

                        What's not so entertaining are the people doing such things that "teach" college students. That these sick individuals are in positions of authority, so will be paid attention to, is disgusting. The idiots in the media we can ignore ....

                        ....like you, all they shovel is crap.

                        Of course it is THEY that use fear to base their crap on... as they, like you - accuse others of "fearmongering" ... as is said below, your and their tactics are; "... self-refuting at every turn."

                        But this crap from "college" is coming home to us. Once, we went to college to get an education.

                        NOW we go to college to be taught what to think, instead of learning facts and HOW to think... and we wonder why colleges are producing a generation of self important idiots ?

                        Wonder no more.

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                        The classical liberal is someone who stands for freedom, for liberty and for liberation. What we see today within the American academy is the shutting down of ideas. We see ideological fascism rather than academic freedom, Piper said.

                        The conservative voice is actually more classically liberal because were arguing for an open, robust exchange of ideas. Why? Because we can trust truth to judge the debate rather than politics or power.

                        ...the problem has been brewing for many decades as ideology has become more important than truth.

                        Weve taught lousy ideas for decades in the academy, and were seeing lousy behavior on the campus green and in the campus quad today. These student rebellions, these snowflake rebellions, trigger warnings, microaggressions and safe spaces are being called for because weve taught these kids this intellectual mush and this ideological narcissism and nihilism,

                        ..We hear people say things like, I hate these hateful people. Im sure that nothings sure. Im absolutely confident there are no absolutes, and I cant tolerate your intolerance. Its self-refuting at every turn. The reason we see this is because we started teaching this type of nihilism and intellectual relativism and intellectual mush some three, four, five decades ago.

                        When you teach good ideas, you get good culture, good kids, good community, good government, good church, etc. When you teach bad ideas, you get the opposite,

                        ...Moms and dads, stop sending your kids to these institutions that teach this pablum, and send them to places that teach whats actually objectively right and real and true and good,"


                        http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/meet-coll...ke-rebellions/
                        I take it that you refute my assertion that the Republican party has nothing to sell but fear. You are probably too young to remember the 2004 campaign when the message was only republicans were tough on terror. Just dial back to the republican convention last summer. The theme of every speech was based on why Americans should be afraid.

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                        • Originally posted by redrover View Post
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                          I take it that you refute my assertion that the Republican party has nothing to sell but fear. You are probably too young to remember the 2004 campaign when the message was only republicans were tough on terror. Just dial back to the republican convention last summer. The theme of every speech was based on why Americans should be afraid.
                          Yeah the Democrats are paragons of optimism. Trump is Hitler and he is going to take down the country as a dictator and will do away with your health care and your social security and your medicaid and your free college, and your Mexican lawn keeper, and your Mexican maid, and your grandmother will have to eat dog food, and all the other fear mongering things the Democrats were pushing during the election.

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                          • Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

                            Yeah the Democrats are paragons of optimism. Trump is Hitler and he is going to take down the country as a dictator and will do away with your health care and your social security and your medicaid and your free college, and your Mexican lawn keeper, and your Mexican maid, and your grandmother will have to eat dog food, and all the other fear mongering things the Democrats were pushing during the election.
                            Yes I made the Hitler dictator connection. Doing away with free college and our Mexican servants and dog food for grandma is pure fiction. What a dummy I am I paid for three daughters to go to college. Now you tell me college is free. Do I ever feel foolish.

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                            • Originally posted by redrover View Post
                              I take it that you refute my assertion that the Republican party has nothing to sell but fear. You are probably too young to remember the 2004 campaign when the message was only republicans were tough on terror. Just dial back to the republican convention last summer. The theme of every speech was based on why Americans should be afraid.
                              Yeah, I'm only 12 LOL

                              Fear is not an item only used by "republitards" to suggest "problems" and then offer "solutions" for them.. these solutions usually involving more of your money.

                              For instance, now that barack retardos "healthcare program" is being seen for what it is - an unworkable scam - democrats/liberals/media are desperately creating fictions meant to create fear about people dying, about grandma not being able to go to the doctor, about kids starving because their parents had to pay so much for healthcare because they lost barack retardos "care." Fictions used to create fears among the people so they will willingly fund more big government B&B - Boondoggles & Bullsh&t.

                              Fear is expensive, no matter WHICH party is selling it.

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                              • This the way to treat Muslims in America. Right? http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/26/us/por...rain-stabbing/

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