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  • Captain Trips
    started a topic Reforming Islam....

    Reforming Islam....

    Islam needs a reformation from things like this. It's been called;

    'A demonic practice' - see story below

    But all cultures are "equal" for liberals.

    This is the result.

    In effect liberals support pinning down little girls and cutting off part of their genitals.

    Liberalism truly is a mental disorder. They supposedly support womens rights, want equal pay for equal work, blah blah blah. ... then they turn around and support this ??? No ?

    Yes. They defend islam every day, islam that murders gay people, yet they defend gay people ?

    The writers of this story made sure to find a few nut-case Christians who did something similar to their young girls. What is interesting about this is that this is NOT a practice of Christianity. Not a common practice at all, I'd never heard of a case. Of course there are nuts in all religions. The common thread seems to be to make sure females get no pleasure from sex.

    Why ? I don't know, it makes no sense. Why would men want to have women uninterested in sex ?

    Islam needs a new and better practice.

    This practice involves removing most of the penis from males at a young age, leaving just enough to point and pee with.

    This is an excellent start to reforming the religion of islam. Leave the women alone, fix the men !



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    In a first-of-its kind federal prosecution, authorities have charged three people for their alleged roles in the genital cuttings of two 7-year-old Minnesota girls at a Livonia clinic in February. Authorities say the girls came to Michigan with their mothers, thinking it was a special girls trip, but ended up having their genitals cut instead.

    All three defendants belong to a small, Indian-Muslim community known as the Dawoodi Bohra, whose members say genital cutting is a deeply entrenched social and cultural norm, with some women viewing it as normal as having a period. Celebration parties are held after the cuttings, and the women and girls are supposed to keep it a secret. One of the key reasons for the procedure, victims say, is to curb a woman's sexuality.

    It was the summer of 1990.

    Mariya Taher was 7 years old, vacationing in India with her family, when one day her mother took her to a run-down apartment building without explaining why.

    She remembers climbing some stairs, opening a door and seeing older women in a room. There was laughter, and the place seemed cheerful.

    But then came the betrayal.

    The child ended up on the floor. Her dress was lifted up.

    “I remember something sharp down there and then I remember crying,” Taher, now 34, recalls. “I remember my mom comforting me afterward and holding me in her lap.”

    ....After years of suffering in silence, fearful of getting shunned by their families and communities if they denounced genital mutilation, they are speaking out and demanding change. They want the cutters punished, along with religious leaders and parents who continue to support a practice that is illegal in the U.S. and has been condemned by the World Health Organization.


    [ It's "illegal in the US" . . . kind of like coming to the US illegally is "illegal" . . . not really, we just pay it lip service ]

    “It's taken me a long time to be as comfortable as I am," said Taher, who hopes that her Sahiyo campaign to end female genital mutilation will gain momentum from the Michigan case. "We can’t have this happening ... Whether it’s a tradition, for religious reasons or for sex, I see all of it as controlling someone. This is a form of gender violence. It’s a form of child abuse. It’s oppression.”

    [ yet liberals want to import more people from places that do these kinds of things ]


    Growing up in India, she was told that the practice was meant to “curb a woman’s sexual desire” so that a woman wouldn’t have an affair or premarital sex. The Bohras do this, she said, by cutting the hood — or tip — off of the clitoris, which was done to her. Today, she said, the Bohras are changing their story about why they practice genital cutting, claiming the ritual is for cleanliness and religious reasons.

    [ it's about taking the pleasure of sex AWAY from women. that's all.....

    ..... Let's turn this around and have penile mutilations on all male children in the islamic culture ! Sounds to me like the perfect way to chill these people out. ]


    “If this can happen in the U.S.A. — it needs to stop,” Sulemanji said, stressing the cutting leaves permanent scars.

    “I remember everything,” she said. “It’s a bad, bad memory. It’s a scar on my life.”


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    http://www.krem.com/news/local/genit...onic/433644391

  • Captain Trips
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    Now that we've elected some followers of Islam into our government, do we not have an obligation to ask them some questions ?

    They work for us after-all.

    They're followers of a religion that's recently committed many horrendous acts against innocent people worldwide, including 9-11 right here..

    .. remember that event ? 9-11 ??

    Anyways, we have a right to know some things do we not ??

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    ....because our politically correct, left-leaning media will likely never ask, we feel obligated to pose several questions for these new congresspersons.

    I am confident they will want their fellow Americans to know how they stand on a number of important issues.

    The two women have just been sworn in as members of the 116th U.S. Congress. Here is the oath of office they were required to take.

    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."


    It’s already clear how they feel about America’s close ally, Israel.

    During her campaign, Omar said she did not support the hateful Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS), describing it as counterproductive to peace. Immediately after the election, she flipped. Her campaign office told Muslim Girl she supports BDS despite "reservations on the effectiveness of the movement in accomplishing a lasting solution."

    During her time in the Minnesota legislature, Omar referred to Israel as "the apartheid Israeli regime." She recommended that the University of Minnesota divest from Israel bonds and criticized a law intended to prohibit the BDS movement. In a 2012 tweet, she said Israel had “hypnotized the world” and was guilty of “evil doings.” Omar accused journalists of Islamophobia for reporting her statements.

    As for Tlaib, she openly supports punishing Israel economically in order to bring attention to issues of alleged racism and international human rights violations. “I personally support the BDS movement,” she said. Tlaib, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, supports a one-state solution: It has to be one state," she has said; two states for two peoples "does not work." She opposes United States aid to Israel.

    I suppose these positions are somewhat predictable, but what about other more fundamental issues that the media won’t touch?

    One of the nastiest aspects of Islam is the tradition in some places of Female Genital Mutilation (FGM), a gruesome practice used to suppress female sexuality, typically found in African or fundamentalist Islamic societies.

    Genital mutilation of girls involves cutting out all or part of the clitoris. This disgusting practice is a common cultural or religious practice in some African countries including Sudan, Egypt, and Ilhan Omar’s country of birth, Somalia, although it has been outlawed by several international treaties. Even so, in 2017 two Muslim doctors in Michigan were arrested for carrying out this barbaric religious “rite of passage.”

    What is Omar’s position on this? Will she campaign to have it stopped? Will she denounce its use in Africa and the Middle East? What about Tlaib?

    Other women’s issues are important to Americans.

    The Qur’an says a husband has the right to “beat” a “disobedient wife.” (Qur’an 4:34).

    Have the two women ever been beaten by their husbands? Would they willingly accept it? Do they agree that Muslims wives are required to be “obedient?” Or, will Omar and Tlaib openly denounce this aspect of Islam?

    Under Islamic Sharia law, homosexuals are oppressed and killed.

    We’ve all seen the videos of blindfolded gay men being thrown off of buildings in the Middle East in the name of Allah.

    In addition, women are abused and forced to wear the hijab. Do the two new congresswomen believe Sharia law should be followed in any form in the US? Will they denounce the practice of Sharia Law as a challenge to constitutional law in the United States? Will they campaign against it? If not, why not?

    Islam teaches that blasphemers must be put to death.

    Apostates who leave Islam are subject to the death penalty. Mohammad said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Those who reject Islam must be killed." Islamic law enforces dhimmi status on non-Muslims, prohibiting them from observing their religious practices publicly, raising their voices during prayer, ringing church bells, or saying anything considered "insulting to Islam." Islamic law relegates non-Muslims to "dhimmi" status, where they are forbidden to propagate their customs among Muslims and cannot display a cross, Christmas decorations or the Star of David. It would be useful for Omar and Tlaib to clarify their positions on these fundamental Islamic issues of tolerance, a key value of American culture.

    ISIS, Iran and other Muslim entities have declared themselves to be enemies of the US. Beyond that is the fundamental threat of traditional Islam to the concept of pluralistic democracy. In its widespread current form, with the explicit goal of a global caliphate under Sharia law, Islam must be regarded as an existential threat.

    Specific ways are needed to deal with an ideology that openly seeks to destroy Western civilization.

    What should be done to deal with this threat?

    What steps as American leaders will these two new Congresspersons take to defend our country and our Constitution? Will they insist that Islamic institutions formally and in practice reject violent jihad as a condition for tax-exempt status?

    Do the two new congresswomen believe that Islam needs to be reformed to more closely reflect the values of the country that they now represent in Congress?

    The generally accepted values of modern America stress a wide range of freedoms involving tolerance, speech, sexuality, and lifestyles, as well as equal rights for women and minorities and a long list of others. But much, if not all of this, is contrary to Islamic law.

    Linda Sarsour, a leading Muslim activist, once told the North American Islamic Society,
    “I hope that when we stand up to those who oppress our community struggling against tyrants and rulers that Allah will accept this as a form of jihad not only in the Middle East but here against the fascists, white supremacists and Islamophobes here and reigning in the White House. Our top priority is to protect and defend our community and not to assimilate and please any other people or authority. Our top priority is to please Allah and only Allah.”
    Could the two congresswomen please explain if their views are different from those of their friend Linda Sarsour and, if so, how?

    The Qur’an describes Muslims as “the best of peoples” (3:110) and non-Muslims as “the most vile of creatures” (98:6).

    Muslims are told not to take “Christians or Jews as friends, for they are friends only with each other.” Do Omar and Tlaib agree with the Qu’ran on this?

    If not, how do they plan to educate their fellow Muslims on this issue? Are they willing to denounce the Qu’ran on this issue? Are there other parts of the Qu’ran they disagree with? Or, are they firm believers?

    Of course, no matter what they say, we must remember that Muhammad was quoted in Sahih Bukhari, the most authoritative Hadith collection, at 52:269 -- “War is deceit." Lying is permitted to deceive an "enemy." The Qur'an defines the "enemy" as "disbelievers." Ahh, what to believe? Who to believe?


    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...resswomen.html

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  • Captain Trips
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    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
    Now this from our wonderful "diversity" seekers.

    Bringing us "diversity" with those who . .

    ..slice off girls genitals, treat women like dogs, behead infidels, hijack and fly airplanes into our buildings, NOW they've entered our government.

    They get to wear their religious garb in Congress !

    So much for the mindless liberal chant of "separation of church and state" LOL

    "Nevermind that, we want to be 'inclusive and diverse.' The religion of submit by killing is great ! 'Separation of church and state' HAH, we all know that was used only when we found it useful to shut those dumb Christians up.'"

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    Nancy Pelosi will move to repeal a 180-year rule prohibiting head coverings on the floor of Congress.

    A CNN anchor suggested two years ago that all American women wear the hijab in solidarity with Muslim women against a Trump presidency.

    Every liberal media outlet is celebrating the election of two Muslim women to Congress -- Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan.

    ..they both wear the traditional hijab, ..Both women will be sworn in on the Koran, and Tlaib will wear a Palestinian robe to show she is firmly in the anti-Israel camp. What a surprise. By the way, it is interesting to note that Jews have served in Congress since the early 1800s and there has been no Jewish push to allow wearing the yarmulke.

    Ilhan Omar is an America-hating leftist who is using her religion to win sympathy as a victim.

    Muslims have not been victims of Americans.

    It is the other way around. Islamists killed 3000 of our people on 9/11 and have killed many more in other terrorist attacks. Yet, by her own admission, after 9/11, Omar did not start an anti-terrorist movement within Islam. She did not express mourning over the deaths of fellow citizens. Instead she played the Muslim victim and decided to start wearing her hijab to express pride in her Islamic identity.

    Having escaped war-torn Somalia to come to America, was she grateful to live in a nation of peace and prosperity? No. She says upon arrival in America, she was confronted with “my otherness” as a Muslim and black. She and her family were granted asylum, and her first impression is the “otherness” she feels?

    She is exactly the kind of immigrant we do not need -- a perfect ingrate.


    [ so we gave her a position in Congress ! Way to go America ! ]

    She was barely sworn in as a citizen when her resentment surfaced. “I think back to the [citizenship] orientations I went through a little over 20 years ago,” says Omar. “...they did not have people who were homeless... There was an America where prosperity was guaranteed...,” She added, “I wasn’t comfortable with that hypocrisy.”

    She should have failed her citizenship test. In America, it is up to each individual to make the most of our gifts and abilities. Our Constitution secures our God-given freedom and fundamental rights. No one is “guaranteed” prosperity.

    I remind her, Nancy Pelosi and the women of Congress that Islamic law enslaves women in a system of beating, rape, genital mutilation, honor killings and denial of education.

    Kamal Saleem, a former jihadist and member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Now a Christian, he confirms that Islam is not merely a religion, but a cultural, political, and military system of conquest through violence, stealth, or both. His mission was to undermine America’s way of life and demand submission to Sharia Law. Islam does not assimilate. It infiltrates. If there is any doubt about that, look at the crisis Europe is facing with its Muslim population.

    The end goal of Islam is all people living under a worldwide Islamic Caliphate. Any honest Muslim will admit that, but under the doctrine of taqiyya, lying to advance the cause of Islam is virtuous.

    ..


    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...n_america.html
    What are some of the first words from our Islamic "Congresswoman" ? ‘We’re Gonna Impeach the Motherf**ker.

    Our new headscarf wearing Islamist 'congresswomen' tells us;

    "“This is not just about Donald Trump. This is about all of us. What should we be as a nation? Who should we be as a people? In the face of this constitutional crisis, we must rise.

    She's right, it IS 'about all of us' and 'What should we be as a nation? Who should we be as a people?'

    She's wrong when she makes a case for impeaching a president based only on her dislike for him. The man has done nothing wrong.

    Other than win the presidency from hilary barf-bag clinton

    BUT

    They'll make up garbage like they did with Roy Moore and Brett Kavanaugh and drag it on forever in the media to weaken his presidency.

    It's all they have, it's all they can do, they're desperate, full of hatred and stupidity

    and

    Of course the Islamists want to sew even greater division and hate in America.

    What a surprise *yawns* In the name of "diversity" ... The congresswoman is one of the first Muslim women elected and is helping American politics become more diverse.

    Wonderful. Now we have another lowlife Islamist in high office in the Unites States government.

    And she has such a wonderful command of the English language and wants to show it off publicly !

    Making America "diverse" ... or something -rollseyes-

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    Rashida Tlaib’s First Day in Congress: ‘We’re Gonna Impeach the Motherf**ker.’

    ..

    In the Detroit Free Press article, both Tlaib and Bonifaz argued that members of Congress “do not need to wait” until Mueller’s investigation is complete before attempting to impeach the president:

    Whether the president was directly involved in a conspiracy with the Russian government to interfere with the 2016 election remains the subject of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation. But we do not need to wait on the outcome of that criminal investigation before moving forward now with an inquiry in the U.S. House of Representatives on whether the president has committed impeachable “high crimes and misdemeanors” against the state: abuse of power and abuse of the public trust. Each passing day brings new damage to the countless people hurt by this lawless president’s actions. We cannot undo the trauma that he is causing to our people, and this nation. Those most vulnerable to his administration’s cruelty are counting on us to act—act to remove the president and put this country on a path to true justice.

    .
    .. [ like president Obama did ? ]

    Tlaib and Bonifaz concluded the op-ed by straying from the moderate Democrats’ argument that impeachment of the president is unwarranted and dangerous in current times.

    “We are also now hearing the dangerous claim that initiating impeachment proceedings against this president is politically unwise and that, instead, the focus should now shift to holding the president accountable via the 2020 election. Such a claim places partisan gamesmanship over our country and our most vulnerable at this perilous moment in our nation’s history. Members of Congress have a sworn duty to preserve our Constitution. Leaving a lawless president in office for political points would be abandoning that duty,” Tlaib and Bonifaz argued. “This is not just about Donald Trump. This is about all of us. What should we be as a nation? Who should we be as a people? In the face of this constitutional crisis, we must rise.”


    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...Z4dmq79AVESIJY


    More

    Speaking to a crowd at a reception held by the progressive group MoveOn near Capitol Hill on Thursday night, the new Congresswoman made a sharply worded pledge

    Tlaib quoted her son telling her, “Mama, look, you won. Bullies don’t win.” And then she said, “’Baby, they don’t.’ Because we’re gonna go in there, we’re gonna impeach the motherfucker.”


    https://www.mediaite.com/online/new-...e-motherfcker/

    Freshly Sworn-in Dem Rep Wastes No Time Before Launching Vulgar Rant About Trump: ‘Impeach the Motherf**ker’

    The congresswoman is one of the first Muslim women elected and is helping American politics become more diverse.


    https://ijr.com/dem-rep-trump-impeac...jjbdn7o4sgvPOE

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  • Captain Trips
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    Now this from our wonderful "diversity" seekers.

    Bringing us "diversity" with those who . .

    ..slice off girls genitals, treat women like dogs, behead infidels, hijack and fly airplanes into our buildings, NOW they've entered our government.

    They get to wear their religious garb in Congress !

    So much for the mindless liberal chant of "separation of church and state" LOL

    "Nevermind that, we want to be 'inclusive and diverse.' The religion of submit by killing is great ! 'Separation of church and state' HAH, we all know that was used only when we found it useful to shut those dumb Christians up.'"

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    Nancy Pelosi will move to repeal a 180-year rule prohibiting head coverings on the floor of Congress.

    A CNN anchor suggested two years ago that all American women wear the hijab in solidarity with Muslim women against a Trump presidency.

    Every liberal media outlet is celebrating the election of two Muslim women to Congress -- Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan.

    ..they both wear the traditional hijab, ..Both women will be sworn in on the Koran, and Tlaib will wear a Palestinian robe to show she is firmly in the anti-Israel camp. What a surprise. By the way, it is interesting to note that Jews have served in Congress since the early 1800s and there has been no Jewish push to allow wearing the yarmulke.

    Ilhan Omar is an America-hating leftist who is using her religion to win sympathy as a victim.

    Muslims have not been victims of Americans.

    It is the other way around. Islamists killed 3000 of our people on 9/11 and have killed many more in other terrorist attacks. Yet, by her own admission, after 9/11, Omar did not start an anti-terrorist movement within Islam. She did not express mourning over the deaths of fellow citizens. Instead she played the Muslim victim and decided to start wearing her hijab to express pride in her Islamic identity.

    Having escaped war-torn Somalia to come to America, was she grateful to live in a nation of peace and prosperity? No. She says upon arrival in America, she was confronted with “my otherness” as a Muslim and black. She and her family were granted asylum, and her first impression is the “otherness” she feels?

    She is exactly the kind of immigrant we do not need -- a perfect ingrate.


    [ so we gave her a position in Congress ! Way to go America ! ]

    She was barely sworn in as a citizen when her resentment surfaced. “I think back to the [citizenship] orientations I went through a little over 20 years ago,” says Omar. “...they did not have people who were homeless... There was an America where prosperity was guaranteed...,” She added, “I wasn’t comfortable with that hypocrisy.”

    She should have failed her citizenship test. In America, it is up to each individual to make the most of our gifts and abilities. Our Constitution secures our God-given freedom and fundamental rights. No one is “guaranteed” prosperity.

    I remind her, Nancy Pelosi and the women of Congress that Islamic law enslaves women in a system of beating, rape, genital mutilation, honor killings and denial of education.

    Kamal Saleem, a former jihadist and member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Now a Christian, he confirms that Islam is not merely a religion, but a cultural, political, and military system of conquest through violence, stealth, or both. His mission was to undermine America’s way of life and demand submission to Sharia Law. Islam does not assimilate. It infiltrates. If there is any doubt about that, look at the crisis Europe is facing with its Muslim population.

    The end goal of Islam is all people living under a worldwide Islamic Caliphate. Any honest Muslim will admit that, but under the doctrine of taqiyya, lying to advance the cause of Islam is virtuous.

    ..


    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...n_america.html

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  • Captain Trips
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    Now lets imagine that another practice arose. . and it MAY

    It's also a religious practice.. in the same way that removing a womans external sex organs is accepted and practiced by .. Islamists.

    This will be fun !

    Especially for those extreme feminists, the ones who hate men and the "patriarchy" and all that, probably lesbians - "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bike."

    So a judge said that "the federal FGM ..(female genital mutilation)..law was unconstitutional."

    Yes, an American judge issued this ruling. It's an interesting ruling.

    I'm not 100 % sure, I'll go verify, but I'm almost 100% positive that the person, the judge issuing this ruling is MALE.

    Yes, here we have it;

    [ On Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Bernard Friedman threw out mutilation and conspiracy charges against all the defendants. He ruled that a 1996 federal law that bans female genital mutilation was unconstitutional because Congress didn’t have the power to regulate the behavior in the first place. ]

    https://www.apnews.com/41a21048d86d499bafa1c869b2a00c17

    So this ruling was issued by a male judge.

    This doesn't surprise me.

    But we now have a religious group that removes mens penises for religious reasons.

    It's no less barbaric and cruel than removing a girls outside sex organs with sharp objects.

    This judge cannot logically rule differently on this can he ? Though I'll bet he WOULD.

    A religious practice it is ! These days there are plenty of women that would probably support it !

    Women have been demanding equality .. equality in ALL WAYS ! If there are religious rites that condone removing a womans sex, there are now also rites that do the same to men. We now have full equality men !

    [ Friedman said in his ruling that states without laws specifically banning female genital mutilation can still prosecute the practice under laws that criminalize sexual battery and abuse.

    “No state offers refuge to those who harm children,” he wrote.

    But those abuse laws often don’t take the specific issues surrounding female genital mutilation into account, said George Zarubin, AHA’s executive director.

    “This is such an underground, secretive, barbaric practice,” Zarubin said. “I think the judge made a major mistake.
    ]

    Yes, it WAS a major mistake. A mistake brought on by the "diversity" crowd that is balkanizing America as fast and as hard as it can.

    I say this judge gets to be the first America male to experience the now accepted religious practice of forced removal of the penis.

    Equality !!

    [ Genital mutilation, also known as female circumcision or cutting, has been condemned by the United Nations. The World Health Organization says there is no health benefit to the procedure, and it can cause numerous health problems. The practice is common in parts of Asia, Africa and the Middle East and is generally performed as a way of controlling a girl’s sexuality. ]

    It's "...generally performed as a way of controlling a girl’s sexuality."

    Oh even BETTER !

    Need we examine what sex it is in America that is guilty of most sex crimes ?

    This gives us even MORE reason to start male genital mutilation in America. It would be "...generally performed as a way of controlling a (boy)’s sexuality."

    I wonder how many rapes and molestations this would put a stop to ???

    Alright, enough about it.

    We either put a complete stop to this caveman bullshirt called "female genital mutilation," or we start allowing little boys sex organs to be removed.

    For equality !

    We have judges issuing rulings about how legal or illegal federally or state ... it is to cut off the sex organs of young girls ??

    What do we say ? How is it that this is even an issue in America ?

    Ask a local nitwit liberal who blathers mindlessly on about diversity and open borders.

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  • DavidSF
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    Originally posted by redrover View Post
    Instead of worrying about Islam I think we should do something about Christianity. As one of my Facebook friends said. "with regard to putting Christ back into Christmas, I would be happier to see Christ back in Christianity.."
    Reforming Christianity, if it is needed at all, can only be done from the inside, in which place you have announced you are not. Best you can do is throw stones at a target you cannot see.

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  • Captain Trips
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    Originally posted by redrover View Post
    Instead of worrying about Islam I think we should do something about Christianity.
    Recently, followers of Islam are guilty of beheading people, hijacking & flying planes into our buildings, blowing people up, all kinds of murderous stuff - which, if you're into, you can find all kinds of videos of real Islamists killing all over the internet. They do other things too. Like throw gay people off of tall buildings, excise (remove) most of a womans genitals, more on that here;

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ircumcision-us

    ... all kinds of great stuff these Islamic folks enjoy.

    Christians ? There have been - still are - some sects or denominations that like to use the religion for sex - men can marry X numbers of 'wives' and at X age (kind of like in Islam), some of them refuse to get their kids vaccinated. The biggest sin of Christianity today is that too many Christians don't even know what their religion is about ! .. ie they've never read a Bible.

    So worry about Christians if it suits you. I'm going to watch out for Islamic nuts who want to blow me up, knife me to death, run me over with a car or whatever else they might dream up to exterminate some infidels.

    Originally posted by redrover View Post
    As one of my Facebook friends said. "with regard to putting Christ back into Christmas, I would be happier to see Christ back in Christianity.."
    A lot of Christians would.

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  • Brexx
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    Originally posted by redrover View Post
    Instead of worrying about Islam I think we should do something about Christianity. As one of my Facebook friends said. "with regard to putting Christ back into Christmas, I would be happier to see Christ back in Christianity.."
    Yeah, lets do that. We should start by rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. At the present time Caesar's name is Donald Trump.

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  • redrover
    replied
    Instead of worrying about Islam I think we should do something about Christianity. As one of my Facebook friends said. "with regard to putting Christ back into Christmas, I would be happier to see Christ back in Christianity.."

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  • Captain Trips
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    Originally posted by DavidSF View Post
    The Book of Genesis pretty much predicts Muslims will not get along with anyone.

    that prophecy was specifically about Ishmael, progenitor of the Arabs who was half brother to Isaac, the progenitor of the Jews.
    They're happy to kill us.

    And

    We're happy to be killed by them.

    Psychopaths and suicidals. Coupled together, there will be killing. Easy killing.

    ( Glazov notes in Jihadist Psychopath, “It is crucial to emphasize that many victims in the con game possess a tremendous narcissism, since in needing to believe that they are part of the script and can actually change it, they incubate a pathological and self-destructive ego. )

    Liberalism at its root; "..a pathological and self-destructive ego."

    It's why we're allowing America to be destroyed in so many different ways.

    Invaded - attacked from the outside.

    Rotted - attacked from within

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    ...

    Islamic terrorists take advantage of the empathy bonds that multicultural societies use to bind diverse populations together into a single functional entity whose members cooperate and even sacrifice for the benefit of the group, without ever sharing in that sense of mutual responsibility.

    Like psychopaths, Glazov argues, Islamic terrorists create the illusion of a mutual relationship while viciously exploiting and eventually destroying their victims by degrees. These victims can be the individuals, the women who marry Islamic terrorists only to be used by them to obtain legal status or to birth new Jihadists, but they are the microcosm of our larger society which is also being charmed, seduced, and destroyed by an ideology that turns our own values and our sense of self against us.

    “Once he succeeds in lodging his hooks into his target’s body, he inflicts the key wound, convincing him that he (the victim) is the actual offender and guilty party, and that the psychopath is the actual victim,” Glazov writes.

    The exchange of roles between perpetrator and victim is crucial to the predation of weaker societies on stronger societies. As predatory plants mimic the appearance of the prey of their victims, the Jihadist appears to resemble a victim of Western civilization, of colonialism, capitalism, and imperialism, turning guilt and grief into the aphrodisiac of his monstrous appetite, before entrapping his civilizational victim.

    Victimhood is the protective coloration of the psychopathic predator, both in his familiar role as the demon haunting a thousand crime stories, thrillers, and action movies, and the less familiar guise of CAIR, ISNA, and countless other Muslim Brotherhood front groups who defend the predation of terrorists by reinventing them as the victims of the very people whom they are killing and destroying.

    ..the victims are neither truly helpless nor innocent. As the con artist exploits greed, the psychopath’s swollen sense of self-regard feeds upon the narcissism of his victims.

    Glazov notes in Jihadist Psychopath, “It is crucial to emphasize that many victims in the con game possess a tremendous narcissism, since in needing to believe that they are part of the script and can actually change it, they incubate a pathological and self-destructive ego.”

    The boundless narcissism of the Left, which convinces its true believers that their beverage choices and their menu options can save or destroy the planet, that even their pettiest actions and emotional states are deeply meaningful signifiers of great and terrible changes in the world, makes it absurdly easy for the Islamist psychopath, who offers the illusion of saving them and himself, to hook them on his line.

    The Left hungers for victims to justify its inflated sense of self-importance and its greed for power. Islamists exploit their messianic delusions by playing the victims in need of rescuing. The Islamist psychopath validates the twisted psychology of his radical victims only to destroy his rescuers.

    ..the unacknowledged truth behind the political psychodramas of the Left, the narcissistic notion that even the most destructive behaviors can feel good because they make us feel good about who we are.

    “Who we are” was the theme of a number of Obama speeches.

    It is no coincidence that the politician who most definitively straddled the cultural divide between Islam and the Left, while uniting them politically in their mutual hatred of the United States of America, could never get enough of telling us who we are.

    ...


    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...sychopath.html


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  • DavidSF
    replied
    The Book of Genesis pretty much predicts Muslims will not get along with anyone.

    Originally posted by Genesis 16:12
    “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."
    that prophecy was specifically about Ishmael, progenitor of the Arabs who was half brother to Isaac, the progenitor of the Jews.

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  • redrover
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    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
    Islam is not compatible with modern western civilization.

    It just isn't.

    We can fantasize about 'tolerance' and being 'inclusive' all we want, it doesn't matter. It won't change the fact that Islam is not compatible with modern western civilization.

    From the below article explaining why, we find;

    "..a Muslim demonstrator in Dearborn, Michigan, holding a sign stating: “We will use the freedoms of the Constitution to destroy the Constitution!” That’s the game plan. You see, Sharia law is in direct conflict with the Bill or Rights.""

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Here are 10 questions about the compatibility of Islam in America.

    ....Tolerance is a fundamental American value. That is the polar opposite of Islam. When Muslims are not in a position of authority, they naturally call for tolerance and cooperation. But one only has to look at Muslim societies to understand how far that goes. How many Christian churches are there in Saudi Arabia?

    ....a former Muslim who now lives in Germany. He understands the prophet Muhammad’s famous quote, 'War is deceit.' Lying is permitted to deceive an "enemy." The Qu’ran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers." There is no way to cover up the meaning of that.

    If any more proof of the danger of Islam to our society and culture is needed, look no further than the downward spiral of Europe. Growing problems caused by Muslims in France, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Sweden and Britain continue to be well documented.


    Britain has recently released from prison Anjem Choudary, described as the most dangerous Islamic preacher in the UK. Among other pronouncements, he says, “When Sharia law is implemented, maybe in 10 or 15 years’ time, (the Queen] would be expected like all women in Britain to be covered from head to toe, only revealing her face and hands.”

    Will Muslim immigrants assimilate? In 1991, James Walsh, former Associate General Counsel of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service said,
    “Immigrants devoted to their own cultures and religions are not influenced by the secular politically correct façade that dominates academia, news-media, entertainment, education, religious and political thinking today. They claim the right not to assimilate . . . Such immigrants say their traditions trump the U.S. legal system.”
    let the Muslims speak for themselves. Linda Sarsour, a leading Muslim activist, told the North American Islamic Society last year,
    “I hope that when we stand up to those who oppress our community struggling against tyrants and rulers that Allah will accept this as a form of jihad not only in the Middle East but here against the fascists, white supremacists and Islamophobes here and reigning in the White House. Our top priority is to protect and defend our community and not to assimilate and please any other people or authority. Our top priority is to please Allah and only Allah.”
    The Religion of Peace website counts 34,034 Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since September 11, 2001.

    Can Islam be reformed? A titular reform Islam movement in the US led by Zuhdi Jasser, a second-generation Syrian doctor who practices in Phoenix, says yes. But others do not believe that Islam is reformable. Muslims have attempted to reform Islam for 1400 years and have always failed. In Indonesia last month, a rally to promote moderate Islam was cancelled after threats of violence from hardliners. Leaders of such movements have been beheaded for apostasy. Jihad and Sharia are foundational principles of Islam. No mincing of words will change that. Lying, deception and terror as basic Islamic tools to maintain control provide a platform no reformer could possibly build on.



    In its current form, with the explicit goal of a global caliphate under Sharia, Islam must be regarded as an existential threat. Specific ways are needed to deal with an ideology that openly seeks to destroy Western Civilization.

    ..



    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._america_.html
    You wouldn't know this but back in the seventh century Islam, Judaism and Christianity coexisted quite well the common enemy was polytheism. Muslims had no beef with other peoples of the book.

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  • Captain Trips
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    Islam is not compatible with modern western civilization.

    It just isn't.

    We can fantasize about 'tolerance' and being 'inclusive' all we want, it doesn't matter. It won't change the fact that Islam is not compatible with modern western civilization.

    From the below article explaining why, we find;

    "..a Muslim demonstrator in Dearborn, Michigan, holding a sign stating: “We will use the freedoms of the Constitution to destroy the Constitution!” That’s the game plan. You see, Sharia law is in direct conflict with the Bill or Rights.""

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Here are 10 questions about the compatibility of Islam in America.

    ....Tolerance is a fundamental American value. That is the polar opposite of Islam. When Muslims are not in a position of authority, they naturally call for tolerance and cooperation. But one only has to look at Muslim societies to understand how far that goes. How many Christian churches are there in Saudi Arabia?

    ....a former Muslim who now lives in Germany. He understands the prophet Muhammad’s famous quote, 'War is deceit.' Lying is permitted to deceive an "enemy." The Qu’ran defines the 'enemy' as "disbelievers." There is no way to cover up the meaning of that.

    If any more proof of the danger of Islam to our society and culture is needed, look no further than the downward spiral of Europe. Growing problems caused by Muslims in France, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Sweden and Britain continue to be well documented.


    Britain has recently released from prison Anjem Choudary, described as the most dangerous Islamic preacher in the UK. Among other pronouncements, he says, “When Sharia law is implemented, maybe in 10 or 15 years’ time, (the Queen] would be expected like all women in Britain to be covered from head to toe, only revealing her face and hands.”

    Will Muslim immigrants assimilate? In 1991, James Walsh, former Associate General Counsel of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service said,
    “Immigrants devoted to their own cultures and religions are not influenced by the secular politically correct façade that dominates academia, news-media, entertainment, education, religious and political thinking today. They claim the right not to assimilate . . . Such immigrants say their traditions trump the U.S. legal system.”
    let the Muslims speak for themselves. Linda Sarsour, a leading Muslim activist, told the North American Islamic Society last year,
    “I hope that when we stand up to those who oppress our community struggling against tyrants and rulers that Allah will accept this as a form of jihad not only in the Middle East but here against the fascists, white supremacists and Islamophobes here and reigning in the White House. Our top priority is to protect and defend our community and not to assimilate and please any other people or authority. Our top priority is to please Allah and only Allah.”
    The Religion of Peace website counts 34,034 Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since September 11, 2001.

    Can Islam be reformed? A titular reform Islam movement in the US led by Zuhdi Jasser, a second-generation Syrian doctor who practices in Phoenix, says yes. But others do not believe that Islam is reformable. Muslims have attempted to reform Islam for 1400 years and have always failed. In Indonesia last month, a rally to promote moderate Islam was cancelled after threats of violence from hardliners. Leaders of such movements have been beheaded for apostasy. Jihad and Sharia are foundational principles of Islam. No mincing of words will change that. Lying, deception and terror as basic Islamic tools to maintain control provide a platform no reformer could possibly build on.



    In its current form, with the explicit goal of a global caliphate under Sharia, Islam must be regarded as an existential threat. Specific ways are needed to deal with an ideology that openly seeks to destroy Western Civilization.

    ..



    https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._america_.html

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  • redrover
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    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

    Who knows, she's always an entertaining read. You have to know when to take her seriously - which is only occasionally LOL
    Some people find the Three Stooges entertaining.

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  • Captain Trips
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    Originally posted by radcentr View Post
    What's all the fuss with "carpet bombing"? That's so old-fashioned. Modern nations can send in special operation groups, and kill the leaders without slaughtering masses of regular troops and civilians like we did in the bad old days. Which reminds me -what did Ann Coulter say about the Pakistani compound raid that killed Osama bin Laden? Lots of good things, I'm sure.
    Who knows, she's always an entertaining read. You have to know when to take her seriously - which is only occasionally LOL

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