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  • Where are we going ?

    Where are we going ? Where have we been ? Are we going back ?

    Where are certain ideas taking us ?

    Some will deny it, say it's paranoid, even delusional !

    History has shown us what these ideas result in. Where they take us.

    It can be denied. It can be ignored. It can be laughed at. But this is what we're headed towards.

    Those laughing and denying, will be the first to scream holy Hell when they get the results of their foolish ideas.

    .......

    "Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924) stated: Socialized medicine is a keystone to the establishment of a socialist state.

    "When the first 273,000 German aged, infirm and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession and it was not far from there to Auschwitz.


    The "medical profession" - same thing we call the "healthcare" profession today.

    We have for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for quality of life without reference to sanctity of life can involve. The origins of the Holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism but in Germanys acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.

    We are doing this same thing in America now ! We've learned to call murder "a womans right" and "abortion" and even made it "legal" ! We're moving towards making euthanasia an acceptable practice now. Where does this lead ...?

    "Hitler rose to power with the help of violent homosexual activists called Brownshirts, who organized boycotts of Jewish businesses, and stormed in and disrupted meetings of opposing parties. Hitler forced old traditional military generals to retire, thus purging his administration of any still retaining a remnant of archaic Judeo-Christian values who might resist him."

    Today we have "homosexual activists" silencing dissenting voices of Christians in many different ways. They aggressively search out Christian businesses with a mission; DESTROY ! The courts have given them the power to do these things by recent court decisions.

    "Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels confided in The Goebbels Diaries 1939-41 that in reality Hitler hates Christianity.."

    We always hear that Hitler was a Christian. That's not true and never was.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated Dec. 15, 1941: To Hitler, the church is a monstrosity to be destroyed by every means.

    And just like Hitler, atheists and homosexuals are seeking to silence & destroy Christianity in America.

    "Disarming the civilian population was a necessary step in state control, as Vladimir Lenin explained: One man with a gun can control 100 without one.

    The deadline set for the surrender of weapons will expire on March 31, 1933. I therefore request the immediate surrender of all arms. Whoever does not belong to one of these named units (SA, SS, and Stahlhelm) and keeps his weapon without authorization or even hides it, must be viewed as an enemy of the national government and will be held responsible without hesitation and with the utmost severity.


    Just like those who want "gun control" today in America !

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ entire article-----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924) stated: Socialized medicine is a keystone to the establishment of a socialist state.

    FDR stated in his State of the Union address, Jan. 6, 1942: The world is too small for both Hitler and God. Nazis have now announced their plan for enforcing their pagan religion all over the world by which the Holy Bible and the Cross of Mercy would be displaced by Mein Kampf and the swastika.

    U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop stated in 1977: When the first 273,000 German aged, infirm and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession and it was not far from there to Auschwitz.

    British Journalist Malcolm Muggeridge explained: We have for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for quality of life without reference to sanctity of life can involve. The origins of the Holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism but in Germanys acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.


    { when you value life so little, these things become acceptable }

    Hitler rose to power with the help of violent homosexual activists called Brownshirts, who organized boycotts of Jewish businesses, and stormed in and disrupted meetings of opposing parties. Hitler forced old traditional military generals to retire, thus purging his administration of any still retaining a remnant of archaic Judeo-Christian values who might resist him.

    Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels confided in The Goebbels Diaries 1939-41 that in reality Hitler hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity.

    Hitler swayed the public with mesmerizing speeches. Nazis confiscated weapons.

    An SA Oberfhrer warned of an ordinance by the provisional Bavarian Minister of the Interior: The deadline set for the surrender of weapons will expire on March 31, 1933. I therefore request the immediate surrender of all arms. Whoever does not belong to one of these named units (SA, SS, and Stahlhelm) and keeps his weapon without authorization or even hides it, must be viewed as an enemy of the national government and will be held responsible without hesitation and with the utmost severity.

    Heinrich Himmler, head of Nazi S.S. (Schutzstaffel Protection Squadron), stated: Germans who wish to use firearms should join the S.S. or the S.A. Ordinary citizens dont need guns, as their having guns doesnt serve the state.

    Disarming the civilian population was a necessary step in state control, as Vladimir Lenin explained: One man with a gun can control 100 without one.

    Of the Waffengesetz (Nazi Weapons Law), March 18, 1938, Hitler stated at a dinner talk, April 11, 1942 (Hitlers Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, 2nd Edition, 1973, p. 425-6, translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens): The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. So lets not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear
    the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated of Hitler, Dec. 15, 1941: Government to him is not the servant of the people but their absolute master and the dictator of their every act. The rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness which seemed to the Founders of the Republic inalienable, were, to Hitler and his fellows, empty words.

    FDR continued: Hitler advanced: That the individual human being has no rights whatsoever in himself no right to a soul of his own, or a mind of his own, or a tongue of his own, or a trade of his own; or even to live where he pleases or to marry the woman he loves; That his only duty is the duty of obedience, not to his God, not to his conscience, but to Adolf Hitler. His only value is his value, not as a man, but as a unit of the Nazi state.


    Hitler was initially going to allow Jews to be deported to Palestine, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husseini, who met with Hitler, held similar anti-Jewish views. Beginning in 1931, al-Husseini attempted to follow Hitlers example by expelling Jews from Palestine, as the Muslim Brotherhood would also do in Egypt.

    Mufti al-Husseini recruited 30,000 Bosnian Muslims to join Hitlers Waffen-SS. Hitler gave al-Husseini financial assistance, and then asylum in 1941, with the honorary rank of an SS Major-General. During the final battle in Berlin in April of 1945, as allied forces closed in on Hitlers bunker, they confronted a hundred Muslims of the Muftis Arab Legion making their last suicidal stand.

    Hitler was initially going to allow Jews to be deported to Palestine, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husseini, who met with Hitler, held similar anti-Jewish views. Beginning in 1931, al-Husseini attempted to follow Hitlers example by expelling Jews from Palestine, as the Muslim Brotherhood would also do in Egypt.

    Mufti al-Husseini recruited 30,000 Bosnian Muslims to join Hitlers Waffen-SS. Hitler gave al-Husseini financial assistance, and then asylum in 1941, with the honorary rank of an SS Major-General. During the final battle in Berlin in April of 1945, as allied forces closed in on Hitlers bunker, they confronted a hundred Muslims of the Muftis Arab Legion making their last suicidal stand.

    Though early in his career Hitler pretended to be sympathetic to Christianity in order to get elected, once he got in power he revealed his nazified social Darwinism and open hostility toward Christianity.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated Dec. 15, 1941: To Hitler, the church is a monstrosity to be destroyed by every means.

    Ministers who resisted Hitlers attempt to nazify the German Protestant Church were imprisoned, such a founder of the Confessing Church, Rev. Martin Niemller, who wrote: First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Though early in his career Hitler pretended to be sympathetic to Christianity in order to get elected, once he got in power he revealed his nazified social Darwinism and open hostility toward Christianity.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated Dec. 15, 1941: To Hitler, the church is a monstrosity to be destroyed by every means.

    Ministers who resisted Hitlers attempt to nazify the German Protestant Church were imprisoned, such a founder of the Confessing Church, Rev. Martin Niemller, who wrote: First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.


    http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/are-nazi-...orig=education

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    Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post
    Where are we going ? Where have we been ? Are we going back ?

    Where are certain ideas taking us ?

    Some will deny it, say it's paranoid, even delusional !

    History has shown us what these ideas result in. Where they take us.

    It can be denied. It can be ignored. It can be laughed at. But this is what we're headed towards.

    Those laughing and denying, will be the first to scream holy Hell when they get the results of their foolish ideas.

    .......

    "Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924) stated: Socialized medicine is a keystone to the establishment of a socialist state.

    "When the first 273,000 German aged, infirm and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession and it was not far from there to Auschwitz.


    The "medical profession" - same thing we call the "healthcare" profession today.

    We have for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for quality of life without reference to sanctity of life can involve. The origins of the Holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism but in Germanys acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.

    We are doing this same thing in America now ! We've learned to call murder "a womans right" and "abortion" and even made it "legal" ! We're moving towards making euthanasia an acceptable practice now. Where does this lead ...?

    "Hitler rose to power with the help of violent homosexual activists called Brownshirts, who organized boycotts of Jewish businesses, and stormed in and disrupted meetings of opposing parties. Hitler forced old traditional military generals to retire, thus purging his administration of any still retaining a remnant of archaic Judeo-Christian values who might resist him."

    Today we have "homosexual activists" silencing dissenting voices of Christians in many different ways. They aggressively search out Christian businesses with a mission; DESTROY ! The courts have given them the power to do these things by recent court decisions.

    "Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels confided in The Goebbels Diaries 1939-41 that in reality Hitler hates Christianity.."

    We always hear that Hitler was a Christian. That's not true and never was.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated Dec. 15, 1941: To Hitler, the church is a monstrosity to be destroyed by every means.

    And just like Hitler, atheists and homosexuals are seeking to silence & destroy Christianity in America.

    "Disarming the civilian population was a necessary step in state control, as Vladimir Lenin explained: One man with a gun can control 100 without one.

    The deadline set for the surrender of weapons will expire on March 31, 1933. I therefore request the immediate surrender of all arms. Whoever does not belong to one of these named units (SA, SS, and Stahlhelm) and keeps his weapon without authorization or even hides it, must be viewed as an enemy of the national government and will be held responsible without hesitation and with the utmost severity.


    Just like those who want "gun control" today in America !

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ entire article-----------------------------------------------------------------------

    Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924) stated: Socialized medicine is a keystone to the establishment of a socialist state.

    FDR stated in his State of the Union address, Jan. 6, 1942: The world is too small for both Hitler and God. Nazis have now announced their plan for enforcing their pagan religion all over the world by which the Holy Bible and the Cross of Mercy would be displaced by Mein Kampf and the swastika.

    U.S. Surgeon General C. Everett Koop stated in 1977: When the first 273,000 German aged, infirm and retarded were killed in gas chambers there was no outcry from that medical profession and it was not far from there to Auschwitz.

    British Journalist Malcolm Muggeridge explained: We have for those that have eyes to see, an object lesson in what the quest for quality of life without reference to sanctity of life can involve. The origins of the Holocaust lay, not in Nazi terrorism but in Germanys acceptance of euthanasia and mercy-killing as humane and estimable.


    { when you value life so little, these things become acceptable }

    Hitler rose to power with the help of violent homosexual activists called Brownshirts, who organized boycotts of Jewish businesses, and stormed in and disrupted meetings of opposing parties. Hitler forced old traditional military generals to retire, thus purging his administration of any still retaining a remnant of archaic Judeo-Christian values who might resist him.

    Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels confided in The Goebbels Diaries 1939-41 that in reality Hitler hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity.

    Hitler swayed the public with mesmerizing speeches. Nazis confiscated weapons.

    An SA Oberfhrer warned of an ordinance by the provisional Bavarian Minister of the Interior: The deadline set for the surrender of weapons will expire on March 31, 1933. I therefore request the immediate surrender of all arms. Whoever does not belong to one of these named units (SA, SS, and Stahlhelm) and keeps his weapon without authorization or even hides it, must be viewed as an enemy of the national government and will be held responsible without hesitation and with the utmost severity.

    Heinrich Himmler, head of Nazi S.S. (Schutzstaffel Protection Squadron), stated: Germans who wish to use firearms should join the S.S. or the S.A. Ordinary citizens dont need guns, as their having guns doesnt serve the state.

    Disarming the civilian population was a necessary step in state control, as Vladimir Lenin explained: One man with a gun can control 100 without one.

    Of the Waffengesetz (Nazi Weapons Law), March 18, 1938, Hitler stated at a dinner talk, April 11, 1942 (Hitlers Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, 2nd Edition, 1973, p. 425-6, translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens): The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. So lets not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear
    the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated of Hitler, Dec. 15, 1941: Government to him is not the servant of the people but their absolute master and the dictator of their every act. The rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness which seemed to the Founders of the Republic inalienable, were, to Hitler and his fellows, empty words.

    FDR continued: Hitler advanced: That the individual human being has no rights whatsoever in himself no right to a soul of his own, or a mind of his own, or a tongue of his own, or a trade of his own; or even to live where he pleases or to marry the woman he loves; That his only duty is the duty of obedience, not to his God, not to his conscience, but to Adolf Hitler. His only value is his value, not as a man, but as a unit of the Nazi state.


    Hitler was initially going to allow Jews to be deported to Palestine, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husseini, who met with Hitler, held similar anti-Jewish views. Beginning in 1931, al-Husseini attempted to follow Hitlers example by expelling Jews from Palestine, as the Muslim Brotherhood would also do in Egypt.

    Mufti al-Husseini recruited 30,000 Bosnian Muslims to join Hitlers Waffen-SS. Hitler gave al-Husseini financial assistance, and then asylum in 1941, with the honorary rank of an SS Major-General. During the final battle in Berlin in April of 1945, as allied forces closed in on Hitlers bunker, they confronted a hundred Muslims of the Muftis Arab Legion making their last suicidal stand.

    Hitler was initially going to allow Jews to be deported to Palestine, but the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Mohammad Amin al-Husseini, who met with Hitler, held similar anti-Jewish views. Beginning in 1931, al-Husseini attempted to follow Hitlers example by expelling Jews from Palestine, as the Muslim Brotherhood would also do in Egypt.

    Mufti al-Husseini recruited 30,000 Bosnian Muslims to join Hitlers Waffen-SS. Hitler gave al-Husseini financial assistance, and then asylum in 1941, with the honorary rank of an SS Major-General. During the final battle in Berlin in April of 1945, as allied forces closed in on Hitlers bunker, they confronted a hundred Muslims of the Muftis Arab Legion making their last suicidal stand.

    Though early in his career Hitler pretended to be sympathetic to Christianity in order to get elected, once he got in power he revealed his nazified social Darwinism and open hostility toward Christianity.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated Dec. 15, 1941: To Hitler, the church is a monstrosity to be destroyed by every means.

    Ministers who resisted Hitlers attempt to nazify the German Protestant Church were imprisoned, such a founder of the Confessing Church, Rev. Martin Niemller, who wrote: First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Though early in his career Hitler pretended to be sympathetic to Christianity in order to get elected, once he got in power he revealed his nazified social Darwinism and open hostility toward Christianity.

    Franklin D. Roosevelt stated Dec. 15, 1941: To Hitler, the church is a monstrosity to be destroyed by every means.

    Ministers who resisted Hitlers attempt to nazify the German Protestant Church were imprisoned, such a founder of the Confessing Church, Rev. Martin Niemller, who wrote: First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.


    http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/are-nazi-...orig=education
    As Trump reminds us their some fine people among those Nazis.As far as where we are going I see the US heading toward a dictatorship unless the democrats can take over congress and restablish the rule of law.It may be our last chance to stop the American Hitler.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by redrover View Post
      As Trump reminds us their some fine people among those Nazis.As far as where we are going I see the US heading toward a dictatorship unless the democrats can take over congress and restablish the rule of law.It may be our last chance to stop the American Hitler.
      We're good, we just avoided that by choosing anyone BUT hitlery clinton.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by redrover View Post

        As Trump reminds us their some fine people among those Nazis.As far as where we are going I see the US heading toward a dictatorship unless the democrats can take over congress and restablish the rule of law.It may be our last chance to stop the American Hitler.
        Look up Godwin's Law.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post

          Look up Godwin's Law.
          Boycott the Republican party. In the end this will not only be the best thing for the country. It will in the end it will be the best thing for republicans The hope is that after it's all over they will be resurrected as a party that champions true American values. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...he-gop/550907/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by redrover View Post

            Boycott the Republican party. In the end this will not only be the best thing for the country. It will in the end it will be the best thing for republicans The hope is that after it's all over they will be resurrected as a party that champions true American values. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...he-gop/550907/
            Looks like it is the DP which is having the problems, as they have no vision, no path forward, except to run on trump hatred.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by redrover View Post
              Boycott the Republican party. In the end this will not only be the best thing for the country. It will in the end it will be the best thing for republicans The hope is that after it's all over they will be resurrected as a party that champions true American values. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...he-gop/550907/
              That's a very very long writing you cite. I strongly suspect you haven't read the entire thing.

              As for true American values, tell us Rover what are those ?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Blue Doggy View Post
                Looks like it is the DP which is having the problems, as they have no vision, no path forward, except to run on trump hatred.
                It's all we see from our media.

                Every day a new & desperate attempt to demean or insult the president. It's tiresome, they really could do better....

                ...they obviously aren't aware of how childish they look.

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                • #9
                  Then we have this...

                  As J. Goldberg explains in a way, Cults of Personality are Getting Worse With Each New President, and we as Americans are getting more and more hateful towards each other in the process !

                  This is not the way to a peaceful, healthy country. It's self destructive & foolish.

                  It's time for EVERYBODY to grow up and stop trying to force their beliefs on everybody else. To be tolerant of others, their beliefs and expressions of those beliefs.

                  Who wants to live in a world where everyone is the same, does the same thing, thinks the same things, behaves the same way.... ?

                  ..... we would be like ants or wasps, we all look and dress the same, we all talk the same - we are little units of a gigantic whole, with no individual, discernable differences... all working together like bees in a bees nest ..

                  bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................. ..

                  No ? That's not what we want ?

                  Maybe we should be more respectful of other peoples rights to believe what they want to believe ? Stop hating each other for "being different" ... we're ALL different !!

                  Get along boys and girls, this isn't 3rd grade anymore.

                  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  The dynamic only gets worse with each election. The party out of power convinces itself that obstruction or now "resistance" is the only option. The party in power talks a big game about bipartisanship, but it not only knows the other side won't cooperate, it also realizes that its base sees compromise as weakness and capitulation.

                  The result is that the party in power races to get its agenda accomplished, and the base forgives any abuses or violations of norms in the process, thus proving the worst suspicions of the opposition.

                  Liberals roll their eyes at the claim that President Obama violated democratic norms or abused his power. But putting aside the specific arguments, conservatives saw plenty of abuses and violations, from the IRS scandals and Benghazi to the Iran deal. Obama said many times he couldn't unilaterally implement the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program because he wasn't a "king." Then he did it anyway.

                  ..the process repeats itself, getting worse and more egregious each time. When I criticize Trump, the first response from countless Republicans is, "Oh yeah, why was it OK for Obama!?" If I point out it wasn't and that I said as much, they switch gears to how we need a fighter who gets things done and doesn't care about the "old rules."

                  Which brings me to the third factor.

                  Yes, there is a cult of Trump. But that's because we have a cult of the presidency in this country. It infects not just our understanding of the office, but of the person holding it. When Obama acted like a king by his own definition liberals cheered, because their loyalty was to the man, not the office.

                  It's getting worse with Trump, but this dynamic has been getting worse for decades. And I suspect it won't improve much when he's gone.

                  ...


                  https://www.newsmax.com/jonahgoldber.../06/id/841854/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by redrover View Post
                    Boycott the Republican party. In the end this will not only be the best thing for the country. It will in the end it will be the best thing for republicans The hope is that after it's all over they will be resurrected as a party that champions true American values. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...he-gop/550907/
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                    We're all still waiting for you to tell us what those true American values are

                    see here - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...847#post550847

                    and here - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...861#post550861

                    Might these values include some of what I wrote of here ? - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...869#post550869

                    ...be respectful of other peoples rights to believe what they want to believe ? Not hating each other for "being different"
                    ... we're ALL different !!
                    aren't we ?
                    .....stop trying to force our beliefs on everybody else. To be tolerant of others, their beliefs and expressions of those beliefs.

                    ??????

                    Are those our values ?????

                    Or are we to - hate each other and try to destroy others that don't think like us ?
                    Destroy people that don't do, or behave as we want them to.. -
                    That's what liberalism is currently teaching

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

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                      We're all still waiting for you to tell us what those true American values are

                      see here - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...847#post550847

                      and here - https://www.uspoliticsonline.com/for...861#post550861
                      In the mind of liberals, it's where everyone works and gives their earnings to the government which distributes it fairly among the population.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by OldmanDan View Post
                        In the mind of liberals, it's where everyone works and gives their earnings to the government which distributes it fairly among the population.
                        Because they don't understand the nature of human-kind, they believe a small group of powerful elites can be trusted to "be fair" to "everybody" ...

                        .... which today, to believe such a thing is so outlandish and crazy !!!

                        More than 200 years ago, the founders of America attempted to create a governing system of checks and balances to keep human-kinds corrupt nature in check.

                        As is our nature, we're seeing this system slowly undone, mostly by the elites, but supported by the ignorant, and there we'll go again, traveling a crappy path we've been down so many times before in history.

                        Perhaps not ??

                        We can hope !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Captain Trips View Post

                          Because they don't understand the nature of human-kind, they believe a small group of powerful elites can be trusted to "be fair" to "everybody" ...

                          .... which today, to believe such a thing is so outlandish and crazy !!!

                          More than 200 years ago, the founders of America attempted to create a governing system of checks and balances to keep human-kinds corrupt nature in check.

                          As is our nature, we're seeing this system slowly undone, mostly by the elites, but supported by the ignorant, and there we'll go again, traveling a crappy path we've been down so many times before in history.

                          Perhaps not ??

                          We can hope !
                          I have an idea. Why don't we create a military dictatorship. I know just the guy to lead it. Kim Jung Trump.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by redrover View Post

                            I have an idea. Why don't we create a military dictatorship. I know just the guy to lead it. Kim Jung Trump.
                            No, I think Chuck Butt Chow would be much preferable !

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redrover View Post

                              I have an idea. Why don't we create a military dictatorship. I know just the guy to lead it. Kim Jung Trump.
                              Hell, we already have fascism, an oligarchy, so the bases are already covered. Trump walked into it, created by Bush Sr. Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama with the great help of both parties in congress. Perhaps you will become connected with reality again, one day, before you die? And realize what your party is. I believe you can teach an old dog like yourself, new tricks. But I am an optimist.

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